• Here is How Modern Warfare 2 Will Spark Further Controversy
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[quote=Zips]Well now, as if the events of the previous week weren't enough to lower many people's opinions of Infinity Ward the following will certainly do the trick. The following contains spoilers from the single player campaign and may not be appropriate to watch. If you want to spoil a few things for yourself or see what the controversy is about, continue on.[/quote] Zips! This is thec complete opposite of what we don't want!
I am so torn about that level it's amazing, which I suppose is a good thing. On the one hand it looks like a pretentious piece of "edgy" trash put in for the pure sake of causing controversy. On the other hand,games have so far been fairly tame when it comes to pushing any sort of moral boundaries, so it's interesting to see how this will turn out. Still not buying it though :downs:
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;18049643]Oh shut up you damn consumer whore. Go back to playing the game while we have a serious and mature (on one side anyway) debate about it. Excuse me while I continue to watch this game dig its own grave.[/QUOTE] Oh shut up you silly fool. A serious and mature debate? [b]Are you fucking kidding me?[/b] All I see is "WAH WAH THEY'RE 3D MODELS OF PEOPLE PEOPLE HAVE FEELINGS TOO THIS IS HORRIBLE WHY DID THEY DO THIS" and whenever someone brings up Postal or GTA you're like "BUT THE CIVILIANS IN THOSE ARE FAKE". It's a big heap of bullshit. Don't like it? Don't fucking play it. Now excuse me while I go pre-order this to shoot some UNARMED, HELPLESS CIVILIANS IN AN AIRPORT.
And people said it would be a cutscene. I told them it would be gameplay, like when you get kidnapped when playing as the President (not US but the country the marines are fighting in) [editline]06:43PM[/editline] In cod4*
Totally thought it was gonna be something really fucked up cause of how people were describing it, very disappointed
Maybe they intentionally leaked this to make us forget about the server debacle :downs:
[QUOTE=Taggart;18050025]Oh shut up you silly fool. A serious and mature debate? [b]Are you fucking kidding me?[/b] All I see is "WAH WAH THEY'RE 3D MODELS OF PEOPLE PEOPLE HAVE FEELINGS TOO THIS IS HORRIBLE WHY DID THEY DO THIS" and whenever someone brings up Postal or GTA you're like "BUT THE CIVILIANS IN THOSE ARE FAKE". It's a big heap of bullshit. Don't like it? Don't fucking play it. Now excuse me while I go pre-order this to shoot some UNARMED, HELPLESS CIVILIANS IN AN AIRPORT.[/QUOTE] Hey everyone, look at this guy. He's so fucking cool, he can shoot unarmed civilians. Thanks for proving my point by the way... not that I needed your assistance but it is appreciated. As to those saying that this is war and these things happen, I am going to quote a post from another thread on the subject: [QUOTE=jcallan;18049380]Hey guys, let's make a game where you can rape civilians in a war-time environment. I mean, you don't have to, but you can, and since rape happens in real wars, they should totally put it in their made up, fictitious game, right guys? Guys?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=databee;18041940]Note: They are 3d models, not real people with hopes and dreams.[/QUOTE] But they show virtual emotions.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;18050130]Hey everyone, look at this guy. He's so fucking cool, he can shoot unarmed civilians. Thanks for proving my point by the way... not that I needed your assistance but it is appreciated. As to those saying that this is war and these things happen, I am going to quote a post from another thread on the subject:[/QUOTE] And what is your point? I can distinguish reality from games, you obviously can't, or refuse to. Get the fuck out if you hate it so much.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;18050130] As to those saying that this is war and these things happen, I am going to quote a post from another thread on the subject:[/QUOTE] Thanks for quoting me :buddy:
Also on that quote: There's many games that emulate this from other countries that never make it to the west. Do they care? NO.
This is what games SHOULD be doing and this is probably the first, albeit it pretentious and frankly retarded, step on the road to games with proper moral choices. Although hopefully they won't be as glaringly stupid as murdering innocents. Coming soon in MW3: Raping kids. It happened in reality so we'll put it in the game.
[QUOTE=jcallan;18050197]This is what games SHOULD be doing and this is probably the first, albeit it pretentious and frankly retarded, step on the road to games with proper moral choices. Although hopefully they won't be as glaringly stupid as murdering innocents. Coming soon in MW3: Raping kids. It happened in reality so we'll put it in the game.[/QUOTE] Oh ho ho, you so funny. Too bad they have no plans to make MW3.
[QUOTE=Taggart;18050150]And what is your point? I can distinguish reality from games, you obviously can't, or refuse to. Get the fuck out if you hate it so much.[/QUOTE] Guess I gotta stop doing all that acid. Seriously, telling me to "get out" is retarded. Your opinion means so much more than mine, right? You don't have to agree with me, but if you can't understand what I'm saying obviously you must be retarded. [QUOTE=Taggart;18050219]Too bad they have no plans to make MW3.[/QUOTE] You mean Activision is working on original content? THANK GOD.
[QUOTE=Taggart;18050219] Too bad they have no plans to make MW3.[/QUOTE] You best be trolling wigger.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;18050391]Guess I gotta stop doing all that acid. Seriously, telling me to "get out" is retarded. Your opinion means so much more than mine, right? You don't have to agree with me, but if you can't understand what I'm saying obviously you must be retarded. You mean Activision is working on original content? THANK GOD.[/QUOTE] No, my opinion means no more than yours. But if all you're gonna do is waste your time all day telling people how hitting pixels with pixels is so bad you need to see a doctor. You don't like it, SO WHAT. Some people do, SO WHAT. Just forget it.
Haha since when did Facepunch have morals
[QUOTE=jcallan;18049994][url]http://hellforge.gameriot.com/blogs/Hellforge/Modern-Warfare-2s-Controversial-Opening[/url][/QUOTE] I like what someone wrote on this video: "The fact that it puts you, the player, into that awful position and makes you go through with it. It's easy to be a "good guy" and shoot up a bunch of evil people. But, what happens when you're the "bad guy" and are fighting against good people? The scenario is designed to make you feel uncomfortable and to make you examine your basic understanding of right and wrong. You don't have to like it, but it's definitely art."
I just want to point out Activision has nothing to do with this game other than publishing and selling it, they don't put their ideas in at all. So stop using them in your arguments. Please continue.
[QUOTE=Machette301;18044515]Haha, Zips you make me laugh so hard, and so do the other "goody two-shoes" round here. Can't believe you people are complaining about this. If you don't like it then don't buy it, just don't complain. Complaining gets you nowhere, it just makes you seem like an arse. So, while you sensitive little pussies are moaning about this game, me and the rest of the guys will happily be having a ball and mowing civilians down because they aren't REAL, that's the point, NOT FUCKING REAL. Have fun with UP: The Video Game.[/QUOTE] UP had a far more evocative death than anything in CoD, thank you very much. [editline]11:46PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Takeout;18051252]I just want to point out Activision has nothing to do with this game other than publishing and selling it, they don't put their ideas in at all. So stop using them in your arguments. Please continue.[/QUOTE] Surprisingly, it's mostly IW who are being cunts here, what with the dedicated server issue and blatant disregard for the PC as a platform. Please continue. [editline]11:48PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Taggart;18050219] Too bad they have no plans to make MW3.[/QUOTE] Oh, but they will. Money talks, and MW2 will be the biggest selling game of all time.
is the vid still available
[QUOTE=Takeout;18051252]I just want to point out Activision has nothing to do with this game other than publishing and selling it, they don't put their ideas in at all..[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=224900[/url] Activision "didn't want Modern Warfare"
All this controversy makes me miss the days of COD2.
Can't wait for Fow news.
Holy crap. That is crazy.
It's really very violent, and being ordered as part of the game to massacre innocent civilians in an airport as part of a terrorist attack is pretty messed up. But it also is realistic as to how our modern 'warfare' works. Terrorism is indeed a real part of today's society, unfortunately. I'm pretty split on this.
how is this any different then what happens when you are bored playing GTA4
[QUOTE=GravyKing;18051089]I like what someone wrote on this video: "The fact that it puts you, the player, into that awful position and makes you go through with it. It's easy to be a "good guy" and shoot up a bunch of evil people. But, what happens when you're the "bad guy" and are fighting against good people? The scenario is designed to make you feel uncomfortable and to make you examine your basic understanding of right and wrong. You don't have to like it, but it's definitely art."[/QUOTE] But this is actually a situation of "What if you were the good guy undercover as one of the bad guys and were forced into a lose-lose siutation, either A) refuse to kill civilians and be killed by the ultranationalists or B) kill the civilians and live with that over your shoulder the rest of your life but still survive the siutation." Which definitely makes you feel uncomfortable and you should feel your character's pain, such as Modern Warfare 1 made you feel Sgt. Paul Jackson's pain as he crawls away from his crashed helicopter. I didn't hear anyone complain about seeing a nuke going off in a Middle eastern country, killing millions of innocent people. So fuck off. I'd rather hear about an airport massacre than a nuclear apocalpyse [editline]09:24PM[/editline] ^ my 2 cents
This makes me want this more actually.
OK lets see, if I make $6 a week and I don't spend it on anything, will i have enough to buy this game? Sadly, no. I might just chip in with my brother. Is it also a good idea to say that I'm Muslim right now?
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