Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo in Theaters 2014 - Polidicks

what the fuck yessss

One of the worst anime with some of the worst characters ever created.

Rather watch EoE in theaters

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wtf how can you people like 2.0 more than 3.0 2.0 was some awkward attempt to stay true to the original while changing some things, and while it wasn't terrible, i'd say it wasn't very good either. nobody stays in character, asuka gets like 10 seconds of character development, rei is going to cook dinner for gendo and shinji lol?? and then they introduce mari who is totally irrelevant and why is she around. and then 2.0's third impact sequence just feels like a poor attempt to replicate the fucking magical third impact sequence in End of Eva. it was still a fun movie but totally inferior to the original series in all relevant regards. 3.0, on the other hand, just goes wild and tries a lot of new things. not all of them work, but at least it's not just an inferior rehash of the series. kaworu/shinji's relationship is perfectly executed, the [sp]fourth impact[/sp] sequence is pretty awesome, etc. the new characters introduced (like Sakura) are totally irrelevant i'll grant, and it's obviously still nowhere near the level of End of Eva, but in all likelihood nothing ever will be so w/e.

[QUOTE=The_Marine;43058083]One of the worst anime with some of the worst characters ever created.[/QUOTE] agreed i wish it was like ttgl where everyone is a badass

[QUOTE=Last or First;43057680]Definitely not the religious symbolism though. IIRC, the producers have come right out and said "yeah we don't actually know shit about Christianity we just think it looks cool".[/QUOTE] ok i understand the producers have said this, but no. the religious symbolism is not irrelevant. you think they just sat in a room and said "ok now let's have the longinus and cassius and adam and lilith and the doors of guf and everything else because it LOOKS COOL LOL!" no. there's consistency there, and whether the symbols were included with the intention of delivering a certain message or not, they're symbolically relevant. what matters most is the viewers' interpretation, not the creator's intention. that's a significant part of the message of the series.

i liked the part where shinji jacked off onto a girl in a coma

[QUOTE=postmanX3;43058212]ok i understand the producers have said this, but no. the religious symbolism is not irrelevant. you think they just sat in a room and said "ok now let's have the longinus and cassius and adam and lilith and the doors of guf and everything else because it LOOKS COOL LOL!" no. there's consistency there, and whether the symbols were included with the intention of delivering a certain message or not, they're symbolically relevant. what matters most is the viewers' interpretation, not the creator's intention. that's a significant part of the message of the series.[/QUOTE] people get into way too much of a shitfest about the behind the scenes stuff. "oh EoE was made just to get back at all the fans who hated the tv ending" etc etc. i think the show stands perfectly on its own without any analysis being necessary. part of the reason people are put off by it is the communitys tendency to make everything seem overblown and deep.

[QUOTE=postmanX3;43058212]ok i understand the producers have said this, but no. the religious symbolism is not irrelevant. you think they just sat in a room and said "ok now let's have the longinus and cassius and adam and lilith and the doors of guf and everything else because it LOOKS COOL LOL!" no. there's consistency there, and whether the symbols were included with the intention of delivering a certain message or not, they're symbolically relevant. what matters most is the viewers' interpretation, not the creator's intention. that's a significant part of the message of the series.[/QUOTE] Sort of. Some of the themes are loosely related to Christianity and such. I mostly mean "don't look too deeply into the cross lasers and 'za beasto' and such". [QUOTE=BASEDCHEF420;43058341]people get into way too much of a shitfest about the behind the scenes stuff. "oh EoE was made just to get back at all the fans who hated the tv ending" etc etc. i think the show stands perfectly on its own without any analysis being necessary. part of the reason people are put off by it is the communitys tendency to make everything seem overblown and deep.[/QUOTE] did you forget the part of EoE where there's a huge rant and a montage of actual death threats sent to Anno and photos of cosplayers and such, ending with a silent shot of an empty movie theater Sure, it's not [I]just[/I] an attack on the fans, but the message of "I hate all of you assholes, here's your damn finale" is a pretty massive part of the movie.

the show was awful. It didn't feel like a narrative, more like a series of things that happened with no plot. and any attempt at making the audience feel something fell flat on its face because the creator/writers don't understand human emotions. not to mention all the filler that got worse and more numerous as they ran out of money. that's why the remakes are better because it cuts out most of the filler

[QUOTE=Covict Joe;43058507]the show was awful. It didn't feel like a narrative, more like a series of things that happened with no plot. and any attempt at making the audience feel something fell flat on its face because the creator/writers don't understand human emotions. not to mention all the filler that got worse and more numerous as they ran out of money. that's why the remakes are better because it cuts out most of the filler[/QUOTE] being depressed = not understanding human emotion ???????????

my condolences to parents who blindly take their kids to the movie thinking it's a random cartoon also the movie's turn of events was wacky and leaves so much to explain that I hope 4.0 can recover. I tell everyone they have to wait for 4 to come out before watching 3. the rebuild series is only giving momentum to my old theory that actually makes the 'throwaway' last episodes of the series kind of awesome, is that everything at that point is [sp]shinji's experience as the tree of life/"god", retconning the events and literally rebuilding the timeline to try and alter the previous outcome. There's even a fan-made comic (doujin but also available in SFW form), 'Retake' (in order of 1, 2, 3, 0, 4, and more I think), which I would consider a canon arc of the series. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't the inspiration for the concepts occurring in rebuild, it's exactly the same concept but Shinji is fully aware of the reversal and makes intentional decisions instead of letting history kind of domino in different directions on its own. Good read[/sp] as for movie spoilers, [sp]gay piano[/sp] is the weirdest thing and I can only assume it was an implied analogy. The [sp]post-timeskip[/sp] stuff is confusing as hell and doesn't make a lick of sense but to be fair that's about as much as shinji can make of it

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43058312]i liked the part where shinji jacked off onto a girl in a coma[/QUOTE] And then had the courtesy of mentioning he was 'the worst'. Because we totally didn't know already that what he did was a bad thing.

[QUOTE=Last or First;43058506] did you forget the part of EoE where there's a huge rant and a montage of actual death threats sent to Anno and photos of cosplayers and such, ending with a silent shot of an empty movie theater [/QUOTE] ??? actually the montage of emails and letters was a mixture of "eva has changed my life thank you so much" and death threats. one of the shots is just literally "Rapist Shinji" or something along those lines, which was just some graffiti anno once saw that struck him as something really funny. Anno didn't use footage of cosplayers, that was a part of the live action sequence that didn't make it into the final cut of the movie. the live action sequence was a world without shinji, which ends with "no, this isn't right". the point was, shinji is struggling with shit a lot of people deal with; is life worth all of the pain, hate and anger? the show/movie both say yes, because there are also tons of pleasantries. this was the point of the email montage. the empty movie theater comes after the sequence of everyone turning into LCL. its just to show a world (your world) without people. its really not much deeper than that. anyway, i personally enjoyed 3.0 for what it was. it was confusing as fuck because everything is different; thats the point. thats exactly what anno wants us to feel, confused and scared and frustrated, just like shinji. it also serves as a great parallel to the events of the show. everything with kowaru is super important to figuring out whats going on between the show and the movies. also lol at people complaining about kowaru's interaction with shinji. did those people even watch the show...? "wow its so gay", like, they literally slept in the same bed in the show guys

[QUOTE=BASEDCHEF420;43058534]being depressed = not understanding human emotion ???????????[/QUOTE] but shinji, or really anyone, in the show have character development. they don't change and evolve as human beings. shinji is the same depressed asshole at the end of the show as he is at the beginning. the creator/writer is probably clinically depressed and thinks that's how everyone is.

the piano duet was the best part [editline]3rd December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Cuon Alpinus;43056808]Don't worry guys, even if you watch the rest of the series you still won't understand what's going on.[/QUOTE] mr anno strikes again [img]http://i.imgur.com/89uNvwK.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Covict Joe;43058507]the show was awful. It didn't feel like a narrative, more like a series of things that happened with no plot. and any attempt at making the audience feel something fell flat on its face because the creator/writers don't understand human emotions. not to mention all the filler that got worse and more numerous as they ran out of money. that's why the remakes are better because it cuts out most of the filler[/QUOTE] It just focused on character development after episode 16. [sp]Asuka's ego led to her downfall, Rei became emotionless once again, and Shinji never becomes recognized for his success. Despite these, they refuse to become hindered by failure at episode 25. It's a unique coming of age story. [/sp]

[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;43058876]the piano duet was the best part [editline]3rd December 2013[/editline] mr anno strikes again [img]http://i.imgur.com/89uNvwK.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] I'm trying to find one where he was being interviewed by some kids and said something really sad and depressing about how he feels all the time but only got this [img]http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm145/Shima_030/complicated.png[/img]

[QUOTE=dai;43058567]my condolences to parents who blindly take their kids to the movie thinking it's a random cartoon also the movie's turn of events was wacky and leaves so much to explain that I hope 4.0 can recover. I tell everyone they have to wait for 4 to come out before watching 3. the rebuild series is only giving momentum to my old theory that actually makes the 'throwaway' last episodes of the series kind of awesome, is that everything at that point is [sp]shinji's experience as the tree of life/"god", retconning the events and literally rebuilding the timeline to try and alter the previous outcome. There's even a fan-made comic (doujin but also available in SFW form), 'Retake' (in order of 1, 2, 3, 0, 4, and more I think), which I would consider a canon arc of the series. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't the inspiration for the concepts occurring in rebuild, it's exactly the same concept but Shinji is fully aware of the reversal and makes intentional decisions instead of letting history kind of domino in different directions on its own. Good read[/sp] [/QUOTE] if i get what you're saying, your "theory" is basically the last 2 eps are the part in EoE where [sp]instrumentality happens[/sp] i think i thought that once but the writers actually intended the last 2 eps and EoE to be completely separate

[QUOTE=Covict Joe;43058796]but shinji, or really anyone, in the show have character development. they don't change and evolve as human beings. shinji is the same depressed asshole at the end of the show as he is at the beginning. the creator/writer is probably clinically depressed and thinks that's how everyone is.[/QUOTE] gendo definitely had his moment at the last minute but yeah, pretty much everyone in the beginning of the show has their problems but they don't surface until much later. then by the end of the series their problems have exploded to absolutely destructive levels. in 3.0 this is even WORSE, but refuses to pop, because the events of EoE just never happened this time. misato's gendo 2.0 now and gendo is pseudo seele member judging by his outfit but still an asshole. EoE was a train derailing; rebuild has removed all of the train's stops and it doesn't have any signs of stopping.

3.0 is the least entertaining of the reboot series but it's a good reboot in all honesty I still think the original series is tops but this new one is fun

[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;43058937]if i get what you're saying, your "theory" is basically the last 2 eps are the part in EoE where [sp]instrumentality happens[/sp] i think i thought that once but the writers actually intended the last 2 eps and EoE to be completely separate[/QUOTE] The show's ending was last minute, he initially planned for it to end like the Space Runway Ideon, but the network claimed that it was too violent. You could see a show preview of Asuka fighting the MP evas at the end of episide 24 or 25.

as long as shinji isn't an emo little fuck like he was in the originals, in 1 and 2 he was actually tolerable

[QUOTE=Sableye;43058991]as long as shinji isn't an emo little fuck like he was in the originals, in 1 and 2 he was actually tolerable[/QUOTE] there are definitely bits where shinji finds a sense of purpose and becomes confident again [sp]only to have it all crashing down on him thanks to his shitty father[/sp]

[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;43058988]The show's ending was last minute, he initially planned for it to end like the Space Runway Ideon, but the network claimed that it was too violent. You could see a show preview of Asuka fighting the MP evas at the end of episide 22 or 23.[/QUOTE] yeah and for the blinding fuck i dont know why reason the last 2 eps and eoe arent happening at the same time even though it would make sense

The climax of 1.0 was the best.

[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;43058937]if i get what you're saying, your "theory" is basically the last 2 eps are the part in EoE where [sp]instrumentality happens[/sp] i think i thought that once but the writers actually intended the last 2 eps and EoE to be completely separate[/QUOTE] the one thing about it though is that it's kind of a salvage mission at this point. the last two episodes were where he ran out of budget (which happened in a previous series he/the studio worked on where you ended up with what amounted to a slideshow presentation set to music, gotta dig that back up). the [sp]instrumentality[/sp] was still intended through the last episodes just to give it some closure, but it was clearly rushed and ill thought out. Going back through stuff after watching 3.0 and with consideration for the [sp]repeated timeline[/sp] thing I mentioned, you see the episodes in a way different light also if you need dumb 'wow that was obvious' for that, the rebuild stuff made it way more blatant than I'd have liked. The opening scenes of 1.0 show [sp]the remnants of the EoE fight with the mass produced evas, blood spatters, cross-shaped bodies sticking out of the water, giant eva outline on a hillside, etc. Furthermore, the sea is now red after third impact, whereas it was blue all through the original series. My question is where the hell is the geofront now though given it was completely opened up in EoE[/sp]. Some scenes match detail for detail but have these key things sticking out like a sore thumb and still some people never realize it

[QUOTE=Dr.C;43056839]Don't bother, it's a huge piece of shit. Anyone who disagrees with me objectively has shit taste[/QUOTE] Yeah if you're into horrible quality anime, NGE is great! Rebuild really is the superior way to view, I'm not saying don't watch NGE but don't discount Rebuild, the only failure i've seen from it is that dumb fan service pilot girl [editline]3rd December 2013[/editline] It's like Gurren Lagann watch the original series cause you know that's the original shit but if you want the best content, the movies are the way to go. Way less filler bullshit and way more of the important shit

I think that the main problem that had 3.0 is that it includes to show a lot of new stuff, in less of two hours (or it was 2h30min?). There are many details that are left badly explained, making that it doesn't have sense, forcing you to rewatch the movie several times to understand it. Also, stupid question: Since [sp]We see several scenes of the inside of Nerv full of debris/shots, we can consider that the JSSDF invasion happened, right?[/sp] I mean, look at this picture: [SPOILERS] [url]http://wiki.evageeks.org/images/d/d9/Eva3-33_C0883_comp.jpg[/url]