White House Declares June to be Official LGBT Pride Month - Polidicks

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44972556]When are we going to have cemeteries for alive people? When are we going to have hospitals for healthy people? When are we going to have soup kitchens for rich people?[/QUOTE] this is like the first political/societal issue post that you made that I agree with I mean, I don't care either way if minorities celebrate how special they are but having a "normal appreciation month" or something is just retarded

sad that we require lgbt months instead of "treat everyone equally good" years

I don't get the point of these months. As if they improve anything.

[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;44978107]I don't get the point of these months. As if they improve anything.[/QUOTE] It's a band aid, the idea is good, but it doesn't work and only promotes inequality in the long run.

[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;44978107]I don't get the point of these months. As if they improve anything.[/QUOTE] Representation is important

[QUOTE=Psyke89;44978139]It's a band aid, the idea is good, but it doesn't work and only promotes inequality in the long run.[/QUOTE] promotes inequality?

Nice work America Also I dont get why people are against this, its not like it is harming anyone

Why not just make every month accept people for who they are unless they do unto evil.

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44972556]When are we going to have cemeteries for alive people?[/Quote] That's called retirement homes. [QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44972556]When are we going to have hospitals for healthy people?[/quote] That's called vacation centers. [QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44972556]When are we going to have soup kitchens for rich people?[/QUOTE] That's called free buffets.

[QUOTE=Rammaster;44972929]Why does things like this that relate to LGBT get rated dumb? When did Facepunch become so anti-doing anything to promote LGBT rights. It's like you all think everything's all right in the world and trying to do things is "shoving it in my face" kind of thing, which this isn't even close to it.[/QUOTE] Because a good bunch of FP is made out of far-right conservatives? I dunno, when I see a big part of this userbase being highly homophobic, transphobic, prejudice-filled, vindictive, pro-death penalty, pro-guns, etc... and they also praise the likes of UKIP and Margaret Thatcher, it's pretty much obvious. I'm all for this, by the way, anything done to raise awareness about LGBT issues is a good thing.

[QUOTE=bunnyspy1;44978177]promotes inequality?[/QUOTE] It implicites that those in those groups are not "normal", so they have a special month, which is counter productive to what it's trying to be achieved.

[QUOTE=Psyke89;44978230]It implicites that those in those groups are not "normal", so they have a special month, which is counter productive to what it's trying to be achieved.[/QUOTE] As of right now, the LGTB community is still under a lot of prejudice and hate. A lot of people are still being hurt, or even killed for their sexuality or gender. This isn't about seperating the LGBT community from everyone else, it's about promoting awareness and aceptance for a group that needs the positive represenation.

[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;44978293]As of right now, the LGTB community is still under a lot of prejudice and hate. A lot of people are still being hurt, or even killed for their sexuality or gender. This isn't about seperating the LGBT community from everyone else, it's about promoting awareness and aceptance for a group that needs the positive represenation.[/QUOTE] I'm not denying, I'm just saying that while the intent is good, the execution is not. LGBT month won't stop any of that, just like all other minority months did almost nothing. It's a band aid move to try to stop a big problem.

[QUOTE=Psyke89;44978384]I'm not denying, I'm just saying that while the intent is good, the execution is not. LGBT month won't stop any of that, just like all other minority months did almost nothing. It's a band aid move to try to stop a big problem.[/QUOTE] What do you propose then? Bringing attention to the minorities and showing the world who they actually are is one of the first steps to them being accepted by "normals". These months are nothing but promotion of under-represented people. The people who complain about these months because "there ain't no straight month for us good folk" are fucking missing the point of the whole event.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;44978520]What do you propose then? Bringing attention to the minorities and showing the world who they actually are is one of the first steps to them being accepted by "normals". These months are nothing but promotion of under-represented people. The people who complain about these months because "there ain't no straight month for us good folk" are fucking missing the point of the whole event.[/QUOTE] Something different rather than rethreading what hasn't worked in the past.

[QUOTE=Psyke89;44978571]Something different rather than rethreading what hasn't worked in the past.[/QUOTE] Don't skirt around the question. Give me something concrete. This "hurr durr not this lol" response is useless. What do you do to raise awareness for a minority that is seen as one of the most vile things in the country on a mass scale? If you don't have an actual answer, you probably shouldn't be complaining about these months.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;44978591]Don't skirt around the question. Give me something concrete. This "hurr durr not this lol" response is useless. What do you do to raise awareness for a minority that is seen as one of the most vile things in the country on a mass scale? If you don't have an actual answer, you probably shouldn't be complaining about these months.[/QUOTE] Why not? These month have not worked, even people in those minorities have stated that time and time again and wish it would be abolished. I'll ask you the something as well, do you have any concrete proof that these months do in fact make a difference?

So the Christians must be furious.

man now i'm gonna have to deal with idiots saying that gay people are "pushing their lifestyle on me" and "b-but where's straight pride month" i don't see the big deal in making a month to lgbt people. we have other months dedicated to minorities and other things as a straight dude i don't feel like the gay man is oppressing me right now

[QUOTE=Bumbanut;44972490]When's straight pride month?[/QUOTE] I was coming in this thread to post a sarcastic "what about a pride month for unoppressed people like MEEEEEEEE :c" post but looks like you've already done it for me. Thanks! [editline]2nd June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;44972686]Because we should celebrate people equally every month. Setting stuff like this aside for people only makes the divide further.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure throwing EVERYONE, including privileged people, under vague equality blanket is worse than that, because fuck struggles that smaller groups have, right?? Equality for EVERYONE AT ONCE ssssssomehow.

So uh, am I the only one curious as to why he chose June? Is there some significance to it? Or was it just " fuck it we're in June let's do that ", if it's the latter it's almost like a South Park skit on the decision making. [QUOTE=Bumbanut;44972490]When's straight pride month?[/QUOTE] to be -really- blunt here, pride/history months are basically for people/groups that have had to put up with a lot of shit, I.E. women's history month, african history month, now LGBT pride month. White and straight men haven't had to really put up with anything when it comes to comparison to the other groups.

It's sort of a bad month to put it in. At most, it'll be placed into TV programs or internet websites. Awareness would spread quicker if it were placed in the month when most schools are open.

I'd rather have a Native American Pride Month or some shit like that. They're the people who got fucked over repeatedly throughout American history and barely anyone remembers/gives a shit. Plus, we could establish trading posts.

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;44974530]Except for the part where I am neither straight nor a man. Nor do any of these celebration months really bother me. It's just that every year a lot of people are tired of having an entire month dedicated to one subject, usually about notable individuals of that topic, again, just like last year, and I think a slightly shorter amount of time would be more palatable to more people. [editline]e[/editline] but no clearly I'm a racist sexist homophobic white republican christian man because I realize that some people don't wanna reminded every day all about who George Washington Carver is again this year for an entire month[/QUOTE] Even if I dont agree with your reasoning, a week does sound ideal. Not because its easier to ignore, but maybe after the first year when people are expecting it, it might be a more dense digestible way of learning about it. A silly comparison, but if its shark week I know I can tune into reddit, youtube, podcasts, and expect talk about sharks somewhere. I dont remember the last time I saw anything about black history month. I usually forget to be honest.

I think they should start being cut down to week intervals, not trying to diminish appreciation here or anything but a week would get a lot more celebration/momentum/whatever term you wanna use, as oppose to a whole month where everyone pretty much forgets about it a little past the first week.

[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;44978711]man now i'm gonna have to deal with idiots saying that gay people are "pushing their lifestyle on me" and "b-but where's straight pride month" i don't see the big deal in making a month to lgbt people. we have other months dedicated to minorities and other things as a straight dude i don't feel like the gay man is oppressing me right now[/QUOTE] Let me put it to you this way. Humans; especially westernized ones; all follow the 1 year, 12 months, 356 days calendar for labelling dates and categorizing time. Since this systematic approach is applied to every human within the United States, this means that all US citizens are affected by the implementation of the proclamation. Without notice and without evaluation, many people are being pushed to accept and alter their traditional label-free month of June, into a whole month of tolerance. So when I am addressed to express my opinion, I say holdddddddddd theeee fuckkkkkkkkkkkk up I didn't get to have any influence on this proclamation, why are we choosing to propel the LGBT peoples when they are various other social groups that are also in need of support. I just find it peculiar that a WHOLE social group may receive special legal support.

[QUOTE=Arctic Snow;44979303]Let me put it to you this way. Humans; especially westernized ones; all follow the 1 year, 12 months, 356 days calendar for labelling dates and categorizing time. Since this systematic approach is applied to every human within the United States, this means that all US citizens are affected by the implementation of the proclamation. Without notice and without evaluation, many people are being pushed to accept and alter their traditional label-free month of June, into a whole month of tolerance. So when I am addressed to express my opinion, I say holdddddddddd theeee fuckkkkkkkkkkkk up I didn't get to have any influence on this proclamation, why are we choosing to propel the LGBT peoples when they are various other social groups that are also in need of support. I just find it peculiar that a WHOLE social group may receive special legal support.[/QUOTE] This is tumblr-level persecution complex, here.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;44979339]This is tumblr-level persecution complex, here.[/QUOTE] Hey thanks for the delicately constructed argument attempting to persuade my opinion, I have freed myself from my ignorant and misinformed beliefs and have accepted yours with arms wide open! This is what I don't understand about facepuch (generalization), you guys seem like above average intellectuals but you guys have a tendency to use arguments that favor pseudo-factual jabs over discussions.

[QUOTE=Arctic Snow;44979303]Let me put it to you this way. Humans; especially westernized ones; all follow the 1 year, 12 months, 356 days calendar for labelling dates and categorizing time. Since this systematic approach is applied to every human within the United States, this means that all US citizens are affected by the implementation of the proclamation. Without notice and without evaluation, many people are being pushed to accept and alter their traditional label-free month of June, into a whole month of tolerance. So when I am addressed to express my opinion, I say holdddddddddd theeee fuckkkkkkkkkkkk up I didn't get to have any influence on this proclamation, why are we choosing to propel the LGBT peoples when they are various other social groups that are also in need of support. I just find it peculiar that a WHOLE social group may receive special legal support.[/QUOTE] So your argument is, that because other groups need help as well, we can't support LGBT people?

I love it when "that guy" jumps into the fray.