• Marijuana Has Arrived To Washington D.C
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[QUOTE=zach1193;40922565]Taxing already works in places like amsterdam, how do you figure it isn't going to work in the US? [editline]6th June 2013[/editline] By your logic you can make money off of anything then, legal or otherwise. Also you have no idea of the true meaning of justice, if you believe that cannabis being outlawed is unjust, when it's entirely 100% the other way around. I'd explain, but I don't really want to take the time to type it all out, but essentially it's only true reason it was illegalized, was that competing companies against hemp, along with greedy politicians hoping to further their careers, decided to demonize the drug and plant to the general public with false accusations, primarily but not limited to, african americans becoming rather violent, and other outrageous claims that it was the drugs responsibility (which, for any drug I find it ludicrous to blame the actual substance, and not the moron taking it irresponsibly, but that's another story)[/QUOTE] Amsterdam tax revenue is mainly from the coffee shops, you can still get it without paying tax and no-one will give a shit. I don't think the USA will see businesses hoping to make money from it, it's a difficult market when you can just get it by other means. After all if you don't get caught doing illegal shit to avoid tax when you acquire it no-one is gonna care that you're smoking it once it's legal.
[QUOTE=zach1193;40922565]but essentially it's only true reason it was illegalized, was that competing companies against hemp[/QUOTE] this isn't true
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40922629]Should have mentioned this earlier then.[/QUOTE] shouldn't have taken my $6 figure seriously! but yeah again, who cares about the money aspect? it should come down to, i choose to smoke weed, and if by doing so i am harming noone else (aka not driving stoned as, not blowing the smoke in little chilluns faces) then i should have the right to do it
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;40922628]I can imagine entire national parks made of weed after it becomes legalized. Buds 2 stories high and thick smoke rolling over green hills in the cool spring air as a golden sun rises over the horizon.[/QUOTE] Wee bit optimistic.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40922633]So fuck correcting past mistakes, lets maintain status quo? OK...[/QUOTE] I'm in favour of legalizing it, just don't lie about its uses in order to try and push the law through earlier.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40922633]So fuck correcting past mistakes, lets maintain status quo? OK...[/QUOTE] We'll correct past mistakes by making more mistakes, it's brilliant!
[QUOTE=Van-man;40922644]Wee bit optimistic.[/QUOTE] Massive forest fires getting entire cities high. Children running around wearing hemp clothing and cars running on hash oil.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;40922654]Massive forest fires getting entire cities high. Children running around wearing hemp clothing and cars running on hash oil.[/QUOTE] OK, now you're going full retard just for the sake of it :v: Also reminds me of that news footage of a reporter getting stoned as all fuck, due to the military burning a big pile of dank in the background, and the wind suddenly changing direction.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40922633]So fuck correcting past mistakes, lets maintain status quo? OK...[/QUOTE] Alright settle down, getting upset and defensive when trying to defend your point isn't going to get anyone anywhere. Remember, when you speak for something or a group, to the person you are speaking, you represent your whole group. [editline]6th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;40922647]I'm in favour of legalizing it, just don't lie about its uses in order to try and push the law through earlier.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, if it isn't true then, please, do enlighten me. [editline]6th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Van-man;40922644]Wee bit optimistic.[/QUOTE] She's prolly just baked too
[QUOTE=zach1193;40922673]I'm sorry, if it isn't true then, please, do enlighten me.[/QUOTE] Hemp has been cultivated for thousands of years. In the years leading up to the ban in the USA, Hemp production was already in terminal decline. It wasn't banned in Europe or the Soviet Union however, and the latter heavily invested into new hemp breeds and development of the agriculture. Even then, cultivation continued to decline as the 20th century wore on, mainly due to a decline in markets for it. These days, hemp only has a few specialist uses, having been superseded by superior products. For instance, it was a pretty shit rope for ships, which is why navies and merchants began replacing it when Manila rope was available.
I'll say it again; I have no problem with weed at all. However, I really don't like the smell/taste/whatever of smoke. This goes for cigarettes, ect also. I'm not against legalization, but if the smell of pot increases a lot in my area I am going to be pissed. Pot brownies / tea sounds good though
[QUOTE=Glitchman;40922769]I'll say it again; I have no problem with weed at all. However, I really don't like the smell/taste/whatever of smoke. This goes for cigarettes, ect also. I'm not against legalization, but if the smell of pot increases a lot in my area I am going to be pissed. Pot brownies / tea sounds good though[/QUOTE] Brownies are the way forward, smoking in general is pretty disgusting. Plus it's healthier to eat than it is to inhale smoke, all kinds of nasties in that albeit less than cigarettes.
The problem with eating is that it lasts too long for a quick blaze
Let us hope this promotes a wave of tolerance across the board towards weed as well as other drugs and 'risky' activities
[QUOTE=King of Satan;40922799]The problem with eating is that it lasts too long for a quick blaze[/QUOTE] Weed needles [SUP][SUP][sup]kiddin'[/sup][/SUP][/SUP]
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40922759]Hemp has been cultivated for thousands of years. In the years leading up to the ban in the USA, Hemp production was already in terminal decline. It wasn't banned in Europe or the Soviet Union however, and the latter heavily invested into new hemp breeds and development of the agriculture. Even then, cultivation continued to decline as the 20th century wore on, mainly due to a decline in markets for it. These days, hemp only has a few specialist uses, having been superseded by superior products. For instance, it was a pretty shit rope for ships, which is why navies and merchants began replacing it when Manila rope was available.[/QUOTE] That still doesn't explain or give reason as to why it's illegal though. Huge cellphones are outdated, but they aren't illegal. [editline]6th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Legend286;40922793]Brownies are the way forward, smoking in general is pretty disgusting. Plus it's healthier to eat than it is to inhale smoke, all kinds of nasties in that albeit less than cigarettes.[/QUOTE] Vaporizing is essentially smoking but without most carcinogens.
well they should be i dont want to see people walking around with silly phones in their hands, it paints a bad image for my neighborhood and I heard they give you cancer.
[QUOTE=zach1193;40922907]That still doesn't explain or give reason as to why it's illegal though. Huge cellphones are outdated, but they aren't illegal.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah it got banned because of ties to marijuana.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40922945]Oh yeah it got banned because of ties to marijuana.[/QUOTE] I suppose that statement's not incorrect, but, We weren't talking about the illegalization of hemp, I was speaking of cannabis sativa, hemp does not produce the flowers that one smokes to get high, cannabis sativa does. honestly, I don't really understand your response. When I mentioned competitors of hemp, I meant that they wanted hemp illegal, and using cannabis sativa as a scapegoat, along with poor information on the subject by most at the time, they essentially told everyone that the two plants were the same.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40922828]Weed needles [SUP][SUP][sup]kiddin'[/sup][/SUP][/SUP][/QUOTE] You can do weed intravenously. The effects of marijuana were scientifically tested that way rather than lighting up a bong in a laboratory setting.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;40923174]You can do weed intravenously. The effects of marijuana were scientifically tested that way rather than lighting up a bong in a laboratory setting.[/QUOTE] afaik they only injected thc in most of those studies.
Yeah, synthetic THC probably
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;40923174]You can do weed intravenously. The effects of marijuana were scientifically tested that way rather than lighting up a bong in a laboratory setting.[/QUOTE] It's not weed though, at that point, well, if it's just THC. There are many other cannabinoids that make themselves present when the flower is smoked such as CBD and CBN, making THC one of many.
I'll never understand why everyone is going to such lengths to argue that weed should be legalized [I]because it can be taxed.[/I] Has to be one of the sloppiest, most inconsistent reasons for supporting legalization ever. It should be legal because its disturbingly controlling/authoritarian that it's illegal in the first place; we shouldn't have to try and convince/beg the state to let us have it by giving them a cut of its profits. Having said all that, I guess it's progress, however small.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;40923174]You can do weed intravenously. The effects of marijuana were scientifically tested that way rather than lighting up a bong in a laboratory setting.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure they just strap monkeys up and suffocate them with smoke :v:
[QUOTE=creative;40923214]I'm pretty sure they just strap monkeys up and suffocate them with smoke :v:[/QUOTE] Yes that case always fascinated me. What beneficial knowledge would that kind of study bring? Nothing except death of a monkey, while also overly high on weed.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;40923273]Yes that case always fascinated me. What beneficial knowledge would that kind of study bring? Nothing except death of a monkey, while also overly high on weed.[/QUOTE] If we can suffocate on it, it must be banned.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;40923174]The effects of marijuana were scientifically tested that way [B]rather than lighting up a bong in a laboratory setting.[/B][/QUOTE] Just imagined someone in a labcoat lighting up a bong made with laboratory glassware using a bunsen burner.
in other news, congress unanimously votes 4 pm as munchies hour [editline]6th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Bat-shit;40923273]Yes that case always fascinated me. What beneficial knowledge would that kind of study bring? Nothing except death of a monkey, while also overly high on weed.[/QUOTE] science cannot move forward without heaps of dead monkeys!
[QUOTE=Robbobin;40923206]I'll never understand why everyone is going to such lengths to argue that weed should be legalized [I]because it can be taxed.[/I] Has to be one of the sloppiest, most inconsistent reasons for supporting legalization ever. It should be legal because its disturbingly controlling/authoritarian that it's illegal in the first place; we shouldn't have to try and convince/beg the state to let us have it by giving them a cut of its profits. Having said all that, I guess it's progress, however small.[/QUOTE] It's not the end of the world that Marijuana is illegal, and it's nowhere near authoritarian. authoritarian would be a country-wide 11PM curfew, banned marijuana is dumb, but not much else.
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