[QUOTE=Legend286;40922793]Brownies are the way forward, smoking in general is pretty disgusting.
Plus it's healthier to eat than it is to inhale smoke, all kinds of nasties in that albeit less than cigarettes.[/QUOTE]
I don't see why people would just use small vaporizers or water bongs alongside tea/brownies.Its more efficient in terms of getting high :v: and you're breathing in water vapor with vaporizers, and very little smoke with water bongs.
The highs you get from a vape or edibles are much different than smoking. If weed is legalized I'll still be hitting bongs, blunts, and pipes. Variety is nice.
Regardless of taxation and medical use, Weed should be legal simply because restricting the right of anyone to get high isn't fair. As the saying goes, a little weed never hurt nobody.
[QUOTE=Robbobin;40923206]I'll never understand why everyone is going to such lengths to argue that weed should be legalized [I]because it can be taxed.[/I] Has to be one of the sloppiest, most inconsistent reasons for supporting legalization ever. It should be legal because its disturbingly controlling/authoritarian that it's illegal in the first place; we shouldn't have to try and convince/beg the state to let us have it by giving them a cut of its profits.
Having said all that, I guess it's progress, however small.[/QUOTE]
It's totally bullshit how we have to bend over and ask nicely, but fiscal benefits are objective. I just hope that every state that legalizes has the proper people watching the consumer's back. It seems like some cunts think legal weed should cost you an arm and a leg.
While I don't support the use of drugs and I think drugs are a terrible it wouldn't be a bad idea to legalize to cash in on people who blow all their money on Marijuana.
Ah, the sweet smell of progress. And it smells like burning autumn leaves, snack-foods, and liberty.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40923810]Just imagined someone in a labcoat lighting up a bong made with laboratory glassware using a bunsen burner.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8i9y2qXYn1rbf36no1_500.gif[/IMG]
you're goddamn right
[QUOTE=Van-man;40922670]OK, now you're going full retard just for the sake of it :v:
Also reminds me of that news footage of a reporter getting stoned as all fuck, due to the military burning a big pile of dank in the background, and the wind suddenly changing direction.[/QUOTE]
There was one of a fire fighter getting high when he inhaled a bunch of smoke at what turned out to be a pot farm hidden in this house that caught on fire.
The taxation excuse for marijuana legalization(in the viewpoint of a liberty-minded individual) is pretty disgusting. It's akin to argue for the abolition of slavery because the State can tax more free individuals.
[QUOTE=snuwoods;40928587]The taxation excuse for marijuana legalization(in the viewpoint of a liberty-minded individual) is pretty disgusting. It's akin to argue for the abolition of slavery because the State can tax more free individuals.[/QUOTE]
Ironically, banning slavery improves economic growth.
I'm far too annoyed by the opinion/fact that people like alcohol-weed, what ever kind of drugs just to have fun to get involved in the weed argument
[QUOTE=Roof;40928677]I'm far too annoyed by the opinion/fact that people like alcohol-weed, what ever kind of drugs just to have fun to get involved in the weed argument[/QUOTE]
Why does it annoy you, noone (as far as I know) is pushing you to do them, so why prevent others?
[QUOTE=snuwoods;40928587]The taxation excuse for marijuana legalization(in the viewpoint of a liberty-minded individual) is pretty disgusting. It's akin to argue for the abolition of slavery because the State can tax more free individuals.[/QUOTE]
well who cares about the argument if the outcome is good? i.e. abolition of slavery, ending of marijuana prohibition
[editline]7th June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Roof;40928677]I'm far too annoyed by the opinion/fact that people like alcohol-weed, what ever kind of drugs just to have fun to get involved in the weed argument[/QUOTE]
yeah it pisses me off when other people have fun too
[editline]7th June 2013[/editline]
NOTHING MAKES ME MADDER THAN THE ENJOYMENT OF OTHERS especially when it doesn't affect me in any way
Obama gonna smoke some o'dat weed.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;40924956]I don't see why people would just use small vaporizers or water bongs alongside tea/brownies.Its more efficient in terms of getting high :v: and you're breathing in water vapor with vaporizers, and very little smoke with water bongs.[/QUOTE]
Cause it's cheaper and more convenient to just roll a joint. For me anyway.
You can always immediately identify the biggest idiots on facepunch by checking the dumb/disagree ratings in the OP of any legal weed news thread.
I can't fathom how there could possibly be any rational counter argument against legalization of marijuana, there's just absolutely [I]nothing[/I].
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40922464]Barely enough to make a dent in GDP, it's a specialist product consumed by adults. (And when Hemp is potentially legalized later on this year, that will probably have an even smaller dent, because it has such restricted uses).[/QUOTE]
I don't know if you are serious or not? Nothing about this post looks like a joke apart from the fact that you said hemp has restricted use... so I can't take you seriously...
[QUOTE=Nick Lomax;40930233]I don't know if you are serious or not? Nothing about this post looks like a joke apart from the fact that you said hemp has restricted use... so I can't take you seriously...[/QUOTE]
I am serious.
Hemp is barely used these days for anything.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40930587]I am serious.
Hemp is barely used these days for anything.[/QUOTE]
hemp fabrics are high quality and it's not like we're not able to make the processes and manufacturing and even the material itself better
we have that ability.
[QUOTE=Paramud;40922534]Being able to make money off something is a stupid reason to legalize it.[/QUOTE]
I agree
They should legalize it to keep people out of prison, to run violent street gangs out of business, and to ease the hypocrisy present in alcohol being legal but pot being illegal (consistency in laws is a good thing)
[QUOTE=Zeke129;40930673]I agree
They should legalize it to keep people out of prison, to run violent street gangs out of business, and to ease the hypocrisy present in alcohol being legal but pot being illegal (consistency in laws is a good thing)[/QUOTE]
I've seen a good amount of good arguments for legalizing pot. "We could tax it and make big bux" isn't one of them, and it's always incredibly god damn annoying when I see anyone say that.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40930603]hemp fabrics are high quality and it's not like we're not able to make the processes and manufacturing and even the material itself better
we have that ability.[/QUOTE]
No it isn't, that's bollocks. Hemp is a poor material whose only good quality is its versatility in a medieval lifestyle. Manila is superior for ropes, cotton is superior for paper and fabrics, jute is superior for making sacks from, etc.
There's a reason cultivation of it has been in terminal decline for the past century.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40930892]No it isn't, that's bollocks. Hemp is a poor material whose only good quality is its versatility in a medieval lifestyle. Manila is superior for ropes, cotton is superior for paper and fabrics, jute is superior for making sacks from, etc.
There's a reason cultivation of it has been in terminal decline for the past century.[/QUOTE]
then why do my hemp shirts feel better than my cotton ones
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40930915]then why do my hemp shirts feel better than my cotton ones[/QUOTE]
Then you must explain why people wear shirts of cotton, if they do not wear hempen ones.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40930923]Then you must explain why people wear shirts of cotton, if they do not wear hempen ones.[/QUOTE]
primarily because it's been banned until recently in a lot of areas
or cotton is an already established and powerful industry in terms of lobbying
you're telling me how my shirts feel and that seems more ludicrous than either of those two things I just said
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40930933]primarily because it's been banned until recently in a lot of areas[/quote]
Then explain why cultivation of it declined in the decades before it was banned?
Or the decline in European or Soviet countries, in which it was never banned?
[quote]or cotton is an already established and powerful industry in terms of lobbying[/quote]
The cotton industry started up after the hemp one in Europe. Try harder buddy.
[quote]you're telling me how my shirts feel and that seems more ludicrous than either of those two things I just said[/QUOTE]
I never said this.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40930961]Then explain why cultivation of it declined in the decades before it was banned?
Or the decline in European or Soviet countries, in which it was never banned?
The cotton industry started up after the hemp one in Europe. Try harder buddy.
I never said this.[/QUOTE]
So because it declined then, current techniques mean it's a fabric that still isn't of use? See, you're actually NOT reading the conversation and just continuing to state your own shit over and over and over again
I'm not talking about the past. I'm talking about now.
We have the ability to make hemp a quality fabric, which from my experience, has proven to be a better shirt material than cotton. You have said in this [QUOTE]No it isn't, that's bollocks.[/QUOTE] in response to me saying it was a quality fabric then said how no one wear them(They do, but guess what an established industry is in place right now and it's not hemp)
ignore lobbying harder
try harder buddy
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40930981]So because it declined then, current techniques mean it's a fabric that still isn't of use? See, you're actually NOT reading the conversation and just continuing to state your own shit over and over and over again[/quote]
Erm, they kept developing the technology. Hemp hasn't managed to catch up to the alternatives of it.
[quote]I'm not talking about the past. I'm talking about now.[/quote]
And right now barely anybody grows it, it's uneconomic for many purposes and has specialist uses.
[quote]We have the ability to make hemp a quality fabric[/quote]
Really? How can it be improved further to make it cheaper and stronger than a rope of nylon?
[quote]which from my experience, has proven to be a better shirt material than cotton.[/quote]
Which is why nobody buys them?
[quote]You have said in this in response to me saying it was a quality fabric then said how no one wear them(They do, but guess what an established industry is in place right now and it's not hemp)[/quote]
There is an established industry, and the reason it's around is because hemp farms keep hemorrhaging money.
[QUOTE=Paramud;40930828]I've seen a good amount of good arguments for legalizing pot. "We could tax it and make big bux" isn't one of them, and it's always incredibly god damn annoying when I see anyone say that.[/QUOTE]
i think it's a good bonus reason like, 'pot is virtually harmless (YEAH I KNOW IT'S NOT 100% HARMLESS) so why not legalize it? and hey, as a bonus we can tax it and pump alot of money into the economy, not to mention create new jobs'
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40931017]Erm, they kept developing the technology. Hemp hasn't managed to catch up to the alternatives of it[/QUOTE]
So hemp can't and won't?
[QUOTE]And right now barely anybody grows it, it's uneconomic for many purposes and has specialist uses.[/QUOTE]
So people can't and won't?
[quote]Really? How can it be improved further to make it cheaper and stronger than a rope of nylon?[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying it's to be used in place of nylon, why are you changing the argument to that? I never brought that up.
[QUOTE]Which is why nobody buys them?[/QUOTE]
Oh so the people I know who own them don't exist? You can deny them existing, but people do buy them. Cotton is a predominant industry currently and that's pretty clear.
[QUOTE]There is an established industry, and the reason it's around is because hemp farms keep hemorrhaging money.[/QUOTE]
so they can't and won't be profitable?
i have a cap made of hemp :)
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