Tens of thousands of prisoners on strike in Georgia since last Thursday. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;26783597]These seem like reasonable things, I don't see why they aren't standard in the first place. [editline]18th December 2010[/editline] If they're going to get out of prison they might as well make themselves useful. Not everyone is in for murder.[/QUOTE] this is georgia, we banned stem cell research and i'm pretty sure a sizable portion of my state voted for huckabee in the primaries we are anything but reasonable

Here is a great idea, don't commit a crime. Therefor you don't go to jail. They're living for free anyway - food, bunk, medical. The only ones who have a right to complain are the ones who pay taxes.

[QUOTE=MR-X;26783877]Here is a great idea, don't commit a crime. Therefor you don't go to jail. They're living for free anyway - [b]food, bunk, medical[/b]. The only ones who have a right to complain are the ones who pay taxes.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I'm pretty sure you didn't read the article. Also, chances are, you've committed a crime. The only difference is that they got caught, and you didn't. Anyway, I'll let you get back to being self-righteous.

Good for the prisoners standing up for themselves. They deserve to be locked up, but they don't deserve to be treated like animals.

[QUOTE=Lazor;26783261]oh i guess slaves in the 1800s were getting paid after all then [editline]18th December 2010[/editline] the russian invasion was pretty brutal[/QUOTE] Slaves didn't have beds.

[QUOTE=JDER14;26784466]Good for the prisoners. They deserve to be locked up, but no one deserves to be treated like an animal.[/QUOTE] In my opinion murderers and rapists do, considering they've already acted like one. However you can't have an entire prison section dedicated to them so they might as well be treated the same as everyone else.

I agree with most of it, and this is coming from a future cop.

[QUOTE=Ultra Violence;26784297]Yeah, I'm pretty sure you didn't read the article. Also, chances are, you've committed a crime. The only difference is that they got caught, and you didn't. Anyway, I'll let you get back to being self-righteous.[/QUOTE] It's only wrong if you get caught :downs:

[QUOTE=Ultra Violence;26784297]Yeah, I'm pretty sure you didn't read the article. Also, chances are, you've committed a crime. The only difference is that they got caught, and you didn't. Anyway, I'll let you get back to being self-righteous.[/QUOTE] This isn't about me though and if I did commit a crime I would more then likely be punished. But I don't break laws or commit crimes so I don't have to worry about that. Anyway, I'll let you get back to being a bleeding heart.

In the bill of rights it say. Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness. WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. Criminals have been processed so therefore they have no rights, even to life. Aka the death penalty.

[QUOTE=Mr.Thorn;26784577]Slaves didn't have beds.[/QUOTE] it's good to know that the only thing standing between slavery being ok and not ok is the lack of beds

Just want to point this out: [quote=13th Amendment][B]Section 1.[/B] Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, [B]except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted[/B], shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. [B] Section 2.[/B] Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[/quote] Sorry it isn't unconstitutional. Prison is by definition a deprivation of rights so people who say that rights can never be taken away [B]in prison[/B] are retarded. I do think they should get some compensation but not that equal to that of a minimum wage worker. I can understand wanting more rights for prisoners or abolition of the death penalty or a focus on rehabilitation over punishment but by saying you can't deprive people of rights means you support banning prison. Guess what? There are such things as rehabilitation in prison (we need more of it in the U.S. though)

What are they striking? It's not like they are working or something.

[QUOTE=Lazor;26782869]you don't know how rights work seriously, you can't just "take them away". they aren't rights if they can be taken away rehabilitation is a much better at reducing crime than a prison, especially when the prison is essentially full of slave labor that corporations like to make a quick buck off of[/QUOTE] Where do think criminal rehabilitation takes place in countries which focus on rehabilitation like Norway? Prison. You seem to be confusing prison with a concentration camp. And yes all prisons take away rights. That's why they are prison. Even the Norwegian and Swedish prisons take away rights for a period of time. They don't permanently take away all rights but they do for your period of incarceration. It's like this [B]everywhere[/B]. [editline]18th December 2010[/editline] Our country only supports education for the poor or for people who earn scholarships. Free education as part of going to prison would be retarded. Maybe if they were model prisoners or didn't re offend they should some assistance in order to become productive members of society but not just because they committed a crime.

just remember its your tax paying dollar for all of this

I see the threat and think Georgia the country, cause of the war in the country of Georgia a back before

Sounds good to me. That should be standard anyway. :rolleye:

it's thanks to prisons like these that convicts reoffend. i hope they get everything they're striking for.

Of course this happens in my state. Well, they have no right, if you are found guilty by your peers then you lost your rights for your crimes. It isn't society's fault that you fucked up.

[QUOTE=RBM11;26786321]Where do think criminal rehabilitation takes place in countries which focus on rehabilitation like Norway? Prison. You seem to be confusing prison with a concentration camp. And yes all prisons take away rights. That's why they are prison. Even the Norwegian and Swedish prisons take away rights for a period of time. They don't permanently take away all rights but they do for your period of incarceration. It's like this [B]everywhere[/B]. [editline]18th December 2010[/editline] Our country only supports education for the poor or for people who earn scholarships. Free education as part of going to prison would be retarded. Maybe if they were model prisoners or didn't re offend they should some assistance in order to become productive members of society but not just because they committed a crime.[/QUOTE] We're not suggesting that prison be abolished or anything, don't be silly.

I'm not surprised at all the US "justice" system is pretty disturbing

[QUOTE=Mr.Goodcat;26787722]Of course this happens in my state. Well, they have no right, if you are found guilty by your peers then you lost your rights for your crimes. It isn't society's fault that you fucked up.[/QUOTE] actually it normally is.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;26788228]We're not suggesting that prison be abolished or anything, don't be silly.[/QUOTE] He was saying that you can't take away someone's rights for any reason. I was pointing out that prison by definition does just that. So if he believes rights can never be taken away that implies he thinks prison should not exist.

[quote] The largest prison strike in American history seems like a topic ripe for the press, however there was no mention of it anywhere in mainstream media. Smaller outlets like Black Agenda Report and Facing South (Institute for Southern Studies) have been covering the strike since day one. Perhaps there was a larger hand at play—one that did not want the deplorable conditions of the Georgia prison system to surface. If Wikileaks has taught us anything, it is that the revolution will be televised.[/quote] things like these are why we need wikileaks

[QUOTE=AutoTurret;26785692]In the bill of rights it say. Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness. WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. Criminals have been processed so therefore they have no rights, even to life. Aka the death penalty.[/QUOTE] so you're saying that it's okay to torture processed prisoners? deny them of proper housing, food, and medical assistance? deny the right to freedom of religion? oh sure that's constitutional, because they've been processed the government can do whatever they want with them. actually no, prisoners are granted every constitutional right to some extent except the right to vote. before you say something make sure you fucking know what you're talking about. [editline]18th December 2010[/editline] also "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is in the declaration, forgot to add

[QUOTE=RBM11;26786321]Where do think criminal rehabilitation takes place in countries which focus on rehabilitation like [b]Norway[/b]? Prison. You seem to be confusing prison with a concentration camp. And yes all prisons take away rights. That's why they are prison. Even the [b]Norwegian[/b] and [b]Swedish[/b] prisons take away rights for a period of time. They don't permanently take away all rights but they do for your period of incarceration. It's like this everywhere. [/QUOTE] this is the united states [editline]19th December 2010[/editline] why did that just post with my alt what the fuck

[QUOTE=Mr.Thorn;26784577]Slaves didn't have beds.[/QUOTE] oh man, I raged so hard reading this. I know you are going to accuse me of being literal, but slaves did have beds. what makes them slaves is their terrible living condition, like three or four slaves to a bed, like this prison for example.

[QUOTE=jaaaaymeeeen;26793386]oh man, I raged so hard reading this. I know you are going to accuse me of being literal, but slaves did have beds. what makes them slaves is their terrible living condition, like three or four slaves to a bed, like this prison for example.[/QUOTE] "Slaves" is not a single group of which the same applies across the board Some slaves were treated like shit, others very well

[QUOTE=Sleepyhead54;26793317]this is the united states [editline]19th December 2010[/editline] why did that just post with my alt what the fuck[/QUOTE] :iiam:

[QUOTE=Zeke129;26793504]"Slaves" is not a single group of which the same applies across the board Some slaves were treated like shit, others very well[/QUOTE] I'm aware of that, but he made a sweeping statement statements so I was as well. Regardless of whether or not these men are "slaves" i still believe they are being treated unjustly even for prisoners.