KKK announces North Carolina victory parade - Polidicks

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51353731]How do you even justify this. They're entirely different groups with different goals and calls to action.[/QUOTE] Its called freedom of speech and right to assemble? Those rights dont stop existing because you personally disagree what certain people are saying.

Do you have any sources to suggest that big marches happen often? Not just small protest events or rally-like things like david duke's senate bid. I live in the South, and my area has several KKK organizations, and we don't have those marches because they don't dare try. Also they quite explicitly stated that this march is because of Trump's win. [QUOTE=Jouska;51353832]Its called freedom of speech and right to assemble? Those rights dont stop existing because you personally disagree what certain people are saying.[/QUOTE] You're missing my point. He said the KKK is like BLM, I disputed that. Of course KKK have the right to peacefully do their thing

[QUOTE=Primigenes;51353831]This is why everyone says Trump supporters are morons or racists. You just advocated for letting registered hate groups, that have historically worked to instill fear into minorities, roam the streets and protest. Youre huffing the kool aid[/QUOTE] You mean what they have been doing for decades? No no you are right 50% are evil racists and want to lynch minorites.

[QUOTE=dai;51353608]they were already out celebrating the morning after in NC [img]http://i.imgur.com/AEWnUPD.png[/img][/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.snopes.com/klan-marches-celebrate-trump-victory/"]No, they aren't[/URL]

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51353834]Do you have any sources to suggest that big marches happen often? Not just small protest events or rally-like things like david duke's senate bid. I live in the South, and my area has several KKK organizations, and we don't have those marches because they don't dare try. Also they quite explicitly stated that this march is because of Trump's win. You're missing my point. He said the KKK is like BLM, I disputed that. Of course KKK have the right to peacefully do their thing[/QUOTE] The point is, you was acting as if the KKK wouldnt march in streets if trump didnt win. Something that did many many times before this election. Trying to say its Trump fault is like saying those anti-trump rioters attavking voters is Clinton fault. [editline]11th November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=thelurker1234;51353834] You're missing my point. He said the KKK is like BLM, I disputed that. Of course KKK have the right to peacefully do their thing[/QUOTE] He said if the BLM has the right to protest so should the KKK. And hes right thats how a democracy work. Edit-oh i see what you mean nvm. Yeah you're right. They have different mentalities.

[QUOTE=EuSKalduna;51353844][URL="http://www.snopes.com/klan-marches-celebrate-trump-victory/"]No, they aren't[/URL][/QUOTE] ah, so it was taken the evening [I]before[/I] the results, and they were just random schmucks carrying gadsden and christian flags, much less strange

[QUOTE=Jouska;51353852]The point is, you was acting as if the KKK wouldnt march in streets if trump didnt win. Something that did many many times before this election. Trying to say its Trump fault is like saying those anti-trump rioters attavking voters is Clinton fault.[/QUOTE] But I said they don't do these big marches often anymore. But now that they're vindicated in their view, they are. You could prove that marches still happen often nowadays if you want to Trump most certainly could have done a better job denouncing racists Just compare these two events [video=youtube;jrnRU3ocIH4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrnRU3ocIH4[/video] [video=youtube;xoIAkTiZHuY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoIAkTiZHuY[/video] Reagan, the bushes, were willing to denounce this shit. Trump only does so when the media notices.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51353635]The alt-right, really? A bunch of shitposters on reddit and pol are a growing sign of white nationalism? Do you any tangible, real world evidence of this manifesting in the real world(I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm genuinely curious) Antipolice? That's pretty much factual, stop playin dude. Black supremacists? Don't underestimate how "saying white people(and the patriarchy :v:) are systematically genociding black people with state violence" can energize racists. Seriously, go to their site and start replacing Black with White and tell me it doesn't turn into something the Klan or Stormfront would write. Hell you don't even need to change anything [video=youtube;xJpWiV-zLoM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJpWiV-zLoM[/video] Nope, nothing to see here, no black supremacy, move along.[/QUOTE] The alt-right isn't "shitposters on reddit." Anti-political correctness was a significant theme of this election. My grandfather brought it up many times to me, even though he couldn't stomach voting Trump. He barely uses email. The alt-right was the entire fervor behind Trump's candidacy. Trying to say it's just isolated to reddit is idiotic - I've heard many, many people 40+ complain about political correctness and minorities and black on black crime and every other staple of the alt-right for months now. My evidence is [I]that the KKK is going on public marches[/I]. That's concerning enough, is it not? Obviously we won't know if hate crimes are on the rise for a while yet, but I'm expecting it. Idiots will be idiots and assault others for pointless reasons like skin color, and Trump's campaign legitimized some degree of political violence and intimidation to supporters who will take it way too far. I never denied that BLM may have black supremacists in it. You're denying that there's a wake of white supremacy behind the Trump campaign. But the BLM is clearly, definitively not a "black supremacy movement" in the same way the Trump campaign is definitely not a white supremacy movement. Some supporters of both may be, obviously, but the central tenets of both have not been rooted in racial supremacy. I don't want to rehash the BLM argument I've put out here 40 times already, but if you're going to say BLM is a black supremacist movement at its core, it should be fair to say that Trump's campaign is a white supremacist movement at its core. Neither are true.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51353635] [video=youtube;xJpWiV-zLoM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJpWiV-zLoM[/video] Nope, nothing to see here, no black supremacy, move along.[/QUOTE]What a fantastic and representative video I am thoroughly convinced

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51353879]But I said they don't do these big marches often anymore. But now that they're vindicated in their view, they are. You could prove that marches still happen often nowadays if you want to Trump most certainly could have done a better job denouncing racists Just compare these two events [video=youtube;jrnRU3ocIH4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrnRU3ocIH4[/video] [video=youtube;xoIAkTiZHuY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoIAkTiZHuY[/video] Reagan, the bushes, were willing to denounce this shit. Trump only does so when the media notices.[/QUOTE] No shit Trump could have done a must better job denoucing racists. But are you going to start blaming him for every single thing that happens in the next for years regardless of the fact its already been happening over a CENTURY.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51353731]How do you even justify this. They're entirely different groups with different goals and calls to action. I guess you've got some dank video clips and twitter screenshots of people saying kill whitey in store, and I don't care about those. If we look at what the larger movement is doing and advocating for as a whole, it's overall a good thing and it's glad that somebody is finally stepping up to police brutality, it affects us all, it just affects them disproportionately leading to the name "black lives matter." Remember that every movement has its scum, and black lives matter in particular is fairly decentralized by design. You can still disagree with them of course, but saying that they're the KKK is a bit far and unjust. [/QUOTE] BLM has the motto. That blacks matter more than other races. The KKK is that whites matter more than other races. They have the same crap motto. Also there isn't just a few 'dank video clips' of blacks shouting to kill whitey. There's actual, visual proof of them beating, harassing, and belittling white people as a whole. They're calling for the bloody fucking Black Panthers to attack white police officers. And they're ACTIVELY harming people, unlike the KKK. I've not heard anyone or seen a video of them brutality attacking minorities.

[QUOTE=Covalent;51353920]BLM has the motto. That blacks matter more than other races. The KKK is that whites matter more than other races. They have the same crap motto. Also there isn't just a few 'dank video clips' of blacks shouting to kill whitey. There's actual, visual proof of them beating, harassing, and belittling white people as a whole. They're calling for the bloody fucking Black Panthers to attack white police officers. And they're ACTIVELY harming people, unlike the KKK. I've not heard anyone or seen a video of them brutality attacking minorities.[/QUOTE] BLM absolutely does not think that blacks matter more than other races. It's "black lives matter, too." This is a disgustingly false equivalency. The KKK is comparable to the New Black Panthers and other black supremacy groups - BLM is a political movement for police reform, not a black supremacy group. Seriously - look up their "motto," it's not perfect and uses a worldview I disagree with, but it is definitively NOT "black lives matter more." WHO is calling for the black panthers to attack people? Specifically? "BLM" is a hashtag. The official organization related to it denounced the Dallas attacks wherein a former NBPP member shot at police. Denounced is a light word - they ridiculed the motherfucker. Find two other videos other than the one previously posted of BLM actively attacking or harassing someone specifically for being white. Two. I can show you thousands of examples of the KKK lynching and murdering blacks for their skin color alone. I'm asking for two. Go.

[QUOTE=Jouska;51353909]No shit Trump could have done a must better job denoucing racists. But are you going to start blaming him for every single thing that happens in the next for years regardless of the fact its already been happening over a CENTURY.[/QUOTE] The problem is that he pandered to them and divided the country over it. If I was in his place, I'd make a speech denouncing the volatility of both sides as well as make some attempt at apologizing for being a major factor in it.

[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;51353932]The problem is that he pandered to them and divided the country over it. If I was in his place, I'd make a speech denouncing the volatility of both sides as well as make some attempt at apologizing for being a major factor in it.[/QUOTE] Yup i agree with you 100%.

The KKK is probably around 90% infiltrated FBI agents at this point. It most likely literally exists to reverse virtue signal by endorsing candidates and fucking them up, that's all they do.

[QUOTE=STRIDERS;51354279]The KKK is something around 90% infiltrated FBI agents at this point. It literally exists to reverse virtue signal by endorsing candidates and fucking them up, that's all they do.[/QUOTE] Wow there buddy are you posting facts instead of generlization, victim blaming and scrapgoating? How dare you

[QUOTE=Dr. Ethan Asia;51353156]Official announcement: [URL="http://www.kkkknights.com/"](this is from the KKK website, so you know, don't click if you're likely to be offended)[/URL][/QUOTE] no, this is the website for the KKKK Nights

This KKK website is hilarious. "Yes we killed niggers but black on black crime is high :downs:"

[QUOTE=Dr. Ethan Asia;51353156] Official announcement: [URL="http://www.kkkknights.com/"](this is from the KKK website, so you know, don't click if you're likely to be offended)[/URL][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=gudman;51353192]Ahaha, fuck no - visit it [b]especially[/b] if you're easily offended, it's hilarious.[/QUOTE] "One Country One Flag [b]One Language[/b]" Proceeds to advertise directly above with a slogan in Latin. [Quote=KKK Site] "In over 86 years, the Klan has been blamed for 3,446 deaths or lynchings of black people ... but black on black crime claims that number or more, every 6 months, but yet we're the bad guys. As you have noticed, the Jew owned media has recently only been reporting on white on black deaths ... but what you don't hear, is all the deaths caused by black on black violent crimes"[/Quote] [Quote] "At the peak of slavery in 1860, only 1.6% of the U.S. population were slave owners. Yet, blacks today feel they are entitled to special treatment, lax laws and feel that the white man owes them something. They base this off of the fact that their race was enslaved over 150 years ago. How many times have you heard blacks say something to the affect "You guys (white man), are the one's who brought us here!" In fact, it was their own people in Africa that was rounding them up and selling them to the highest bidder. So No, we only gave them a ride! The black mans own people sold them out!" [/Quote] [Quote] "The Jews themselves know the end of their rule is coming that is why the have been kicked out of every nation on this planet twice for their greed." [/Quote] [Quote] "By saying they are a religion not a race a trick the Jews have used for hundreds of years when confronted about their evil ways. Christ tells the Jews what they can look forward to in hell for their religion of evil" [/Quote] Satire has got nothing on this.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51353357]You're right, its not the same way, Obama is far worse(so far). Obama enabled the Black Panthers to come out of the shadows and "guard" polling places to make sure everything is on the up n up. Obama and Lynch enabled BLM by telling them keep it up, youre fighting the good fight in Ferguson and Baltimore. Obama jumped to conclusions in high profile cases before the facts ever came out and reaffirmed their fears that police are out to get them. Black supremacists in Dallas and Baton Rouge murdered police officers because their fears were reaffirmed with lies from DC and the media. What has Trump enabled other than people saying racist/homophobic shit? The Klan is a joke. They planned a huge show of force to combat the rioting in Ferguson and like 4 dudes showed up, walked around for a few minutes, and left. I'm eager to see how many actually attend this.[/QUOTE] it's said that the left's biggest failure in the last few years has been not recognizing a recent surge in its own extremism. sad to see this will be your failure as well

The KKK has like 5,000 members, they do rallies and shit all the time and the turnout is usually less than Westboro Baptist Church and they're usually outnumbered 10:1 by anti-protestors. This is only news to stir up more fear mongering.

[QUOTE=Charades;51354415]The KKK has like 5,000 members, they do rallies and shit all the time and the turnout is usually less than Westboro Baptist Church and they're usually outnumbered 10:1 by anti-protestors. This is only news to stir up more fear mongering.[/QUOTE] It's somewhat of a hard number to estimate. With the secretiveness of membership, and also there being many "kkk" groups, and many various white nationalist groups that sometimes cooperate and work together, and sometimes infight. [QUOTE=Trebgarta;51354332]I dont see a [I]fact [/I]there, I see a [I]claim[/I].[/QUOTE] Not just a claim, that's an extraordinary claim to essentially say that the KKK is a conspiracy managed by the government. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51354474]It's somewhat of a hard number to estimate. With the secretiveness of membership, and also there being many "kkk" groups, and many various white nationalist groups that sometimes cooperate and work together, and sometimes infight. Not just a claim, that's an extraordinary claim to essentially say that the KKK is a conspiracy managed by the government. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.[/QUOTE] Hurr durr, this group that hasn't done anything notable since the sixties and is constantly used as a media boogeyman couldn't possibly be an undead fusion of an FBI honeypot and leftist controlled opposition!

Can you substantiate your claim STRIDERS with links to anything credible? I'm getting sick and tired of people in these threads making a claim, getting called out for it, and then doubling down on that claim [I]without backing it up.[/I] Should be absolutely bannable, and if I have done it in the past, I should be banned too.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51354474]Not just a claim, that's an extraordinary claim to essentially say that [b]the KKK is a conspiracy managed by the government.[/b] Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.[/QUOTE] Conspiracy? Have you never heard of FBI informants? Donnie Brasco, Harry Potter?

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51354578]Can you substantiate your claim STRIDERS with links to anything credible? I'm getting sick and tired of people in these threads making a claim, getting called out for it, and then doubling down on that claim [I]without backing it up.[/I] Should be absolutely bannable, and if I have done it in the past, I should be banned too.[/QUOTE] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO[/url]

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51354595]Conspiracy? Have you never heard of FBI informants? Donnie Brasco, Harry Potter?[/QUOTE] There are absolutely FBI informants in the KKK, I believe that. But can anyone seriously say the KKK is made up of 90% FBI informants without even linking to something showing that to be true? [editline]11th November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=STRIDERS;51354602][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO[/url][/QUOTE] That's about operations in the 70s. I don't see how that has relevance to the KKK today. It's also not anything specific. Do you have something that suggests this still goes on today, rather than a Wikipedia article?

[QUOTE=STRIDERS;51354550]Hurr durr, this group that hasn't done anything notable since the sixties and is constantly used as a media boogeyman couldn't possibly be an undead fusion of an FBI honeypot and leftist controlled opposition![/QUOTE] Well, you reveal your hand with the last part. Your hunt for the spooky leftist boogyman has led to you formulating a conspiracy theory with no evidence. Just like how the KKK themselves manage to find the jews behind so many things. The claim... technically isn't impossible. But you need more than just that, you need evidence. [QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51354595]Conspiracy? Have you never heard of FBI informants? Donnie Brasco, Harry Potter?[/QUOTE] Of course they have. But claiming that the KKK as an organization is essentially dead and used as a tool by the FBI to discredit political opposition requires some incredible proof.

[QUOTE=STRIDERS;51354602][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO[/url][/QUOTE] So you're saying you're baselessly speculating. Nice. I know COINTELPRO exists. Any evidence they infiltrated the KKK and made it into a honeypot and media manipulation group? Any of that specifically? No? If you're going to make speculation, present it as speculation. Not as a factual claim. "I'm convinced that COINTELRPO has infiltrated the KKK" vs "COINTELPRO has infiltrated the KKK."

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51353168]Trump has enabled these people. It's going to be a very bad 4 years if you're not white.[/QUOTE] If people like the WBC managed to stay alive for eight years under democratic presidency then a republican candidate being elected was hardly a turning point for the extremists of America. Like wow the attention seeking racists are seeking attention, who would have fucking seen that one coming