EU now confirmed as RIAA Enemy, Finds online piracy does not majorly affect legal sales - Polidicks

[QUOTE=smeismastger;39970097]Can you give us the juicy parts from the books? I only know about the government paying royalties to deceaced people stupidity[/QUOTE] It's been a while since I read it, and I don't have the book with me right now, but what basically happened was that the only people who even paid taxes were those who couldn't find a way not to. Bottom line: The people who actually payed anything on taxes was the minority.

[QUOTE=Dlaor-guy;39968760]Would've been alright if we kicked Greece out.[/QUOTE] More not allowed in in the first place. They falsified various figures and the EU [I]knew[/I] about it yet didn't do anything.

[QUOTE=iTrolol;39970213]It's been a while since I read it, and I don't have the book with me right now, but what basically happened was that the only people who even paid taxes were those who couldn't find a way not to. Bottom line: The people who actually payed anything on taxes was the minority.[/QUOTE] Are the Greeks generating a reality-twisting field naturally around them or how Greece hasn't crashed and burned to ash years ago? How the fuck you run a capitalistic country without it's citizens paying taxes?

[QUOTE=MachiniOs;39970218]More not allowed in in the first place. They falsified various figures and the EU [I]knew[/I] about it yet didn't do anything.[/QUOTE] Fun fact: the EU didn't do anything because the other EU countries didn't want them to, otherwise they'd get in trouble for falsifying figures, too.

[QUOTE=smeismastger;39970308]Are the Greeks generating a reality-twisting field naturally around them or how Greece hasn't crashed and burned to ash years ago? How the fuck you run a capitalistic country without it's citizens paying taxes?[/QUOTE] You don't, As we see now. Everything just had a bit of a delay

[QUOTE=BreenIsALie;39970708]You don't, As we see now. Everything just had a bit of a delay[/QUOTE] I still lol to this day when they started rioting and burning flags when other natios, -God forbid-, demanded that citizens pay [B]TAXES![/B] To actually support the economy of their government! How dare they?

They did a major currency swapping deal with Goldmann and Sachs to set the payback limit for their debts further away, that is what finally sparked the whole fiasco.

I don't think "kicking greece out" would've solved anything. The point is alot of money has literally went down the drain because Greece will never be able to pay back all they owe, the financial crisis would've happened even if Greece was removed from EU because that wouldn't solve it's debts. [QUOTE=butt2089;39968768]You're right, I was pretty annoyed that the EU transfers all of it's employees, paperwork and equipment between Brussels and Strasbourg on a weekly basis - but now they've come out with this paper on digital piracy, I love the EU :downs:[/QUOTE] Get educated faggot: EU uses a really small amount of it's budget for actual management costs, most of the EU's budget goes to aiding every members friendly farmers who would get fucked in a free market without the support because South America and Africa are ready to trade produce for bottle caps. [IMG]http://www.civitas.org.uk/eufacts/graphics/budgetgraph.jpg[/IMG] As you can see EU uses it's budget to aid the people who grant it to them.

Wow this is huge. Now the EU needs to put this into legislation so that copyright holders can shove their lawsuits up their asses. Financial damages is usually the #1 argument when businesses sue for copyright infrigment.

Yaaaaay

[QUOTE=smeismastger;39970308]Are the Greeks generating a reality-twisting field naturally around them or how Greece hasn't crashed and burned to ash years ago? How the fuck you run a capitalistic country without it's citizens paying taxes?[/QUOTE] because that's the way it's always been there. the greeks have always had a mentality of "who needs to pay taxes, who needs to work, who needs to do any of those things" and instead they take 3 hour lunchbreaks and dinner-breaks and post-dinner-breaks. nothing gets done there and it worked for a few hundred years, but unfortunately for them the world had other plans. my dad is an immigrant from greece, so i've been there plenty of times through my life (before it all blew up in their faces

[QUOTE=smeismastger;39970308]Are the Greeks generating a reality-twisting field naturally around them or how Greece hasn't crashed and burned to ash years ago? How the fuck you run a capitalistic country without it's citizens paying taxes?[/QUOTE] Thing is, they had crashed and burned, they just projected a false state of stability and deluded themselves into thinking everything was working.

[QUOTE=Falchion;39970944]I don't think "kicking greece out" would've solved anything. The point is alot of money has literally went down the drain because Greece will never be able to pay back all they owe, the financial crisis would've happened even if Greece was removed from EU because that wouldn't solve it's debts. Get educated faggot: EU uses a really small amount of it's budget for actual management costs, most of the EU's budget goes to aiding every members friendly farmers who would get fucked in a free market without the support because South America and Africa are ready to trade produce for bottle caps. [IMG]http://www.civitas.org.uk/eufacts/graphics/budgetgraph.jpg[/IMG] As you can see EU uses it's budget to aid the people who grant it to them.[/QUOTE] Is this a joke? A pie chart with no numbers of figures... Small amount as a percentage, that's still [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8036096.stm#start]€6.8 billion[/url] - of which €200 million is just switching between Brussels and Strasbourg - that is an obscene amount of money. Referring to the original post I quoted, where is the common sense in spending €200 million a year to move people between two offices?

The way I see it. Piracy is fine if it's something that's no longer in production, or just one of those fucking compilations the artists don't even see a cent of anyway. Hmm, am I willing to pay like 40 dollars for an out of print cd, or just download it?

[QUOTE=butt2089;39971739]Is this a joke? A pie chart with no numbers of figures... Small amount as a percentage, that's still [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8036096.stm#start]€6.8 billion[/url] - of which €200 million is just switching between Brussels and Strasbourg - that is an obscene amount of money. Referring to the original post I quoted, where is the common sense in spending €200 million a year to move people between two offices?[/QUOTE] look at the overall picture and see that eu benefits europe even though not everything they do is smart or alternatively end yourself

[QUOTE=Falchion;39972818]look at the overall picture and see that eu benefits europe even though not everything they do is smart or alternatively end yourself[/QUOTE] No. The EU benefits Eastern Europe. This is a list of the countries who are net contributors to the EU: Netherlands UK Sweden Germany Italy Denmark Finland France Austria This is a list of the countries who are net recipients from the EU: Croatia Cyprus Spain Ireland [B]Belgium Czech Republic Romania Malta Slovenia Portugal Slovakia Bulgaria Estonia Greece Poland Luxembourg Latvia Hungary Lithuania[/B] Countries in bold get over 100% of their contribution net (give £1bn, get £2bn) Here's a diagram of how CAP (second largest part of the EU budget) is spent; The net contributors take ~65% of this budget, with the ~35% going elsewhere. 35% across so many of those countries isn't exactly much, so the EU clearly doesn't have eastern European agriculture in mind with the CAP. [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/CAP2004beneficiaries.gif[/t] However, the €40 billion in regional aid mostly goes straight to Eastern or Southern Europe - and for what? What's amazing about the EU is that both CAP and Regional Aid are both larger than the following combined: Research & Innovation Education Crime & Border control Total: €5.26 billion Wowee, even the Administration bill of €6.8 billion is more than that. That's pathetic, take away the common market and what is the benefit to Western Europe? How can you call this a union when most of the money goes to regional aid and barely any of it goes to any form of innovation or improvement for the big contributors? They could pay for all these benefits themselves and they would be [I]saving[/I] money.

God bless Europe!

[QUOTE=Van-man;39968708]And certain people [I]STILL[/I] claims the EU lacks common sense :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] It's a bit of a coin toss every time sometimes the EU does something wonderful (the topic for this thread for instance) and sometimes they do things that just make you wonder what the fuck they were thinking

[QUOTE=lavacano;39976150]It's a bit of a coin toss every time sometimes the EU does something wonderful (the topic for this thread for instance) and sometimes they do things that just make you wonder what the fuck they were thinking[/QUOTE] They've still implemented stringent consumer protection & fair competition programs.