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[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;36680633]If it exists on a social level it will [b]necessarily[/b] manifest itself on an institutional level. [/QUOTE] when institutions are set up the point is to serve the social side of society anyway.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36680606][editline]8th July 2012[/editline] Yes I am, you saying the exact same sentence over and over again bolded doesn't make you any more right. I am saying something, but you happen to not agree with it.[/QUOTE] [B]Hey guy[/B], the sentence "misogyny still exists, but it's not a big deal, and here's why it's not a big deal, but it still exists but you guys talking about how it exists should calm down because it's not a big deal except in the areas where I say it is" [I]doesn't mean anything.[/I] It's gibberish. You aren't saying anything. You're not contributing anything to the discussion with that series of guttural, noncommittal responses to statements nobody has ever made.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36680548] Feminists claim that women don't have equal rights (they do), and that there are only men in in positions of power(which is blatantly false) trying to take their rights away from them. [/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_words[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36680606][editline]8th July 2012[/editline] Yes I am, you saying the exact same sentence over and over again bolded doesn't make you any more right. I am saying something, but you happen to not agree with it.[/QUOTE] He's like a little chris0132.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;36680657][B]Hey guy[/B], the sentence "misogyny still exists, but it's not a big deal, and here's why it's not a big deal, but it still exists but you guys talking about how it exists should calm down because it's not a big deal except in the areas where I say it is" [I]doesn't mean anything.[/I] It's gibberish. You aren't saying anything. You're not contributing anything to the discussion with that series of guttural, noncommittal responses to statements nobody has ever made.[/QUOTE] I never said it wasn't a big deal, let ALONE that it doesn't exist. I was saying that it wasn't as bad as some people act like it is. It certainly both A. exists, and B. is a problem.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;36680311]Yes. Misandry doesn't exist in any meaningful form in the western world. There might be a few inconsequential cases of anti-male prejudice in the backwaters of the internet, but there is no genuine, misandrist anti-male discrimination of any consequence.[/QUOTE] My uncle was actually accused by his girlfriend of assaulting her (when it was actually the other way around), and the police and the prosecutor was at first completely convinced that he did it - simply because he was a man and as such larger and stronger than her. The prosecutor was especially vile and hated him outright, without having any proof whatsoever. He was first released when they could find no physical damage on her but marks on him. And then the fact that she has some mental problems. And this is one of the nicest men I have ever met. This is not a big problem in our society, but these cases do exist, and as such there [I]is[/I] actually a bias towards women in cases like these. At least in Sweden and Denmark. Of course this should [I]in no way[/I] overshadow the iequality issues that we have, but the women in the OP called cases like these myths, and this is obviously not the only example.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36680688]I never said it wasn't a big deal, let ALONE that it doesn't exist. I was saying that it wasn't as bad as some people act like it is. It certainly both A. exists, and B. is a problem.[/QUOTE] it's not a big deal because you say it isn't?

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36680688]I never said it wasn't a big deal, let ALONE that it doesn't exist. I was saying that it wasn't as bad as some people act like it is. It certainly both A. exists, and B. is a problem.[/QUOTE] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[QUOTE=Dori;36680700]it's not a big deal because you say it isn't?[/QUOTE] ...... I literally just said it was a problem. In the post you quoted. Are you fucking serious?

She should use the money to advertise her videos more, because she doesn't have enough viewers at the moment to do anything with $160,000 she better make it viral

[QUOTE=thisispain;36680403] look you might feel that you are "just" an animal; with that notion you can remain forever in your abstract world where completely debunked Freudian garbage still has some credibilility. meanwhile i'll be rooting for the women who say "hey maybe we shouldn't get less money for the same work" or "hey maybe we should be able to have birth control".[/QUOTE] One might not always agree with the motivation behind these things (I know I don't), but it would be wrong to believe that the female status in society is the prime cause these issues exist. I think feminism is just a really shortsighted way to explain these issues, and in many situations feminists are taking these issues hostage for personal gain rather than equality.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36680712]...... I literally just said it was a problem. In the post you quoted. Are you fucking serious?[/QUOTE] you say it's not as big of a deal as people say it is that's a nice way of saying you think it isn't a big deal

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36680688]I never said it wasn't a big deal, let ALONE that it doesn't exist. I was saying that it wasn't as bad as some people act like it is. It certainly both A. exists, and B. is a problem.[/QUOTE] well you can make such an argument but you'll have to keep in mind that you're starting off from a privileged position as a male so you'll be inevitably biased because a lot of misogyny is invisible to you. you can get around it by saying "i've spoken to a representative sample of women and they agree" or "here's some reputable statistics to support what I'm saying", but you have to acknowledge your bias to begin with or you're just saying the equivalent of "let them eat cake"

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36680699]My uncle was actually accused by his girlfriend of assaulting her (when it was actually the other way around), and the police and the prosecutor was at first completely convinced that he did it - simply because he was a man and as such larger and stronger than her. The prosecutor was especially vile and hated him outright, without having any proof whatsoever. He was first released when they could find no physical damage on her but marks on him. And then the fact that she has some mental problems. And this is one of the nicest men I have ever met.[/QUOTE] Hey, your uncle had to go through this because of misogyny. Male-on-female domestic abuse cases are treated so seriously because they're such a big problem in our society. There are so many men out there beating women that the courts have had no choice but to take the woman's side by default to get anything done. Likewise, since society thinks women are weaker, society doesn't take cases of female-on-male domestic abuse seriously. This is yet another example of one of the ways that misogyny can hurt men in addition to women.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36680688]I never said it wasn't a big deal, let ALONE that it doesn't exist. I was saying that it wasn't as bad as some people act like it is. It certainly both A. exists, and B. is a problem.[/QUOTE] you are arguing something that is entirely opinion. your argument is a waste of time

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;36680741]Hey, your uncle had to go through this because of misogyny. Male-on-female domestic abuse cases are treated so seriously because they're such a big problem in our society. There are so many men out there beating women that the courts have had no choice but to take the woman's side by default to get anything done. This is yet another example of one of the ways that misogyny can hurt men in addition to women.[/QUOTE] I agree with your explanation, but wouldn't it just be simpler and avoid a lot of confusion if you just say that this is misandry?

[QUOTE=V12US;36680721] I think feminism is just a really shortsighted way to explain these issues, and in many situations feminists are taking these issues hostage for personal gain rather than equality.[/QUOTE] who what where which feminists? this still has zero to do with feminism, and i'm pretty sure you haven't read a single word by any feminist author!! forget pseudo-Freud, try pseudo-intellectual. i hate that term but there's no other way to describe your musing on feminism.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36680759]I agree with your explanation, but wouldn't it just be simpler and avoid a lot of confusion if you just say that this is misandry?[/QUOTE] That would be wrong. Misandry doesn't mean "something that hurts men." Misandry means "something that results from anti-male attitudes." Society doesn't expect men to be soldiers because it's prejudiced against men; society expects men to be soldiers because it's prejudiced against women (they're "weaker") and men are the ones left that have to make up for the consequences of that anti-female attitude. When a man, who is a victim of domestic abuse at the hands of a woman, isn't taken seriously in court, it's not because the court has any anti-male sentiments; it's because they have the anti-female sentiment that women are too weak to actually hurt a man. A man is a victim, but he's not a victim because of misandry.

[QUOTE=Dori;36680729]you say it's not as big of a deal as people say it is that's a nice way of saying you think it isn't a big deal[/QUOTE] I said as SOME people say it is. You know, the more "hardcore" feminists who claim that absolutely everything is sexism.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36680699]My uncle was actually accused by his girlfriend of assaulting her (when it was actually the other way around), and the police and the prosecutor was at first completely convinced that he did it - simply because he was a man and as such larger and stronger than her. The prosecutor was especially vile and hated him outright, without having any proof whatsoever. He was first released when they could find no physical damage on her but marks on him. And then the fact that she has some mental problems. And this is one of the nicest men I have ever met. This is not a big problem in our society, but these cases do exist, and as such there [I]is[/I] actually a bias towards women in cases like these. At least in Sweden and Denmark. Of course this should [I]in no way[/I] overshadow the iequality issues that we have, but the women in the OP called cases like these myths, and this is obviously not the only example.[/QUOTE] This isn't really misandry, though. Both genders are being stereotyped. The male is assumed to have the physical strength and desire motivation to harm the female and the female is assumed to lack the physical strength or motivation to defend herself against the male. Just because society wrongfully expects certain things to happen in a very specific way doesn't mean it does such because of hatred.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36680799]I said as SOME people say it is. You know, the more "hardcore" feminists who claim that absolutely everything is sexism.[/QUOTE] which feminists? the ones you dreamt up for the sake of this argument?

[QUOTE=Dori;36680819]which feminists? the ones you dreamt up for the sake of this argument?[/QUOTE] You're a pretty good example.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36680799]I said as SOME people say it is. You know, the more "hardcore" feminists who claim that absolutely everything is sexism.[/QUOTE] There is sexism everywhere. Just because you can't see it immediately doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36680825]You're a pretty good example.[/QUOTE] okay so the answer is none thanks for playing door is to the right

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36680799]I said as SOME people say it is. You know, the more "hardcore" feminists who claim that absolutely everything is sexism.[/QUOTE] there are idiots in any group or ideology you care to name, that's not an argument against the core claims of that ideology. [B]yes[/B], radical, idiot feminists exist, because [B]radical, idiot humans exist.[/B] it goes without saying. it would be news if feminism [B]didn't[/B] contain a retarded fringe minority

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;36680825]You're a pretty good example.[/QUOTE] my credible argument-o-meter is off the scale

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;36680791]That would be wrong. Misandry doesn't mean "something that hurts men." Misandry means "something that results from anti-male attitudes." Society doesn't expect men to be soldiers because it's prejudiced against men; society expects men to be soldiers because it's prejudiced against women (they're "weaker") and men are the ones left that have to make up for the consequences of that anti-female attitude. When a man, who is a victim of domestic abuse at the hands of a woman, isn't taken seriously in court, it's not because the court has any anti-male sentiments; it's because they have the anti-female sentiment that women are too weak to actually hurt a man. A man is a victim, but he's not a victim because of misandry.[/QUOTE] so what would actual misandry look like?

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36680871]there are idiots in any group or ideology you care to name, that's not an argument against the core claims of that ideology. [/QUOTE] not only that, how can you repudiate something if your knowledge of it is completely false? it would be like me hating the nazi's only because they didn't like sausages

[QUOTE=thisispain;36680770]forget pseudo-Freud[/QUOTE] pseudo-Freud? lol you can't get more pseudo than Freud

[QUOTE=Dori;36679059]you realise those are male power fantasies right[/QUOTE] that apparently no male here likes, since its brought up over and over again