• Disgusting net event of the Month: Flash Game Makes Players Beat Up "Tropes vs. Women" Creator
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[QUOTE=Wii60;36677348]We need stronger female characters but this stupid tropes documentary thing that they ripped off $160,000 off of people isn't the way to go about doing it. i mean why the fuck does she need money anyway? she has a studio already, the camera equipment is there, What could she need 160k for? at least the[URL="http://www.indiegogo.com/misandryinvideogames"] misandry guys over at indie gogo[/URL] will donate the money to charity instead of use for profit.[/QUOTE] because she realized that instead of doing something productive to get a message across she could [sp] make HUGE dosh[/sp]
why is all of this even a thing
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;36677406]Correct me if I'm wrong, but initially she didn't ask for the 160k, she asked for 3k. It later over-exceeded that amount. I don't think you could close your Kickstarter until the due day has been reached.[/QUOTE] still, what does she need the money for. you check up feminist frequency and you see she does all sorts of bitching about the stupidest things (she complains about legos being misogynist, fucking legos.), Why couldn't she add this tropes thing into her list of things to put on there?
The more concerning thing I have with this is people against him are doing everything within their power to both make sure all potential employers never hire him ever again, trying to make him go to jail ("so he can be raped"), and sending him and his family death threats. They claim it's justified because they're defending an empowered woman against a white male.
This should be a little informative. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6gLmcS3-NI&feature=plcp[/media]
jeep-eep, could you please make a post stating your position rather than rating everyone dumb like a passive-aggressive manchild
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36677439]jeep-eep, could you please make a post stating your position rather than rating everyone dumb like a passive-aggressive manchild[/QUOTE] no, dont you know that rating dumb is the new and hip form of arguing
[QUOTE=Wii60;36677418]still, what does she need the money for. you check up feminist frequency and you see she does all sorts of bitching about the stupidest things (she complains about legos being misogynist, fucking legos.), Why couldn't she add this tropes thing into her list of things to put on there?[/QUOTE] I do admit that it's sort of greedy of her to keep it. I think that she could fund a few game development companies (specifically their writers/character designers) to make games with better female characters, though I don't think it would work since 160k isn't a convincing amount of money. EDIT: Basically, try to support the cause in some way, not necessarily yourself.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36677439]jeep-eep, could you please make a post stating your position rather than rating everyone dumb like a passive-aggressive manchild[/QUOTE] he can be childish and annoying but it isn't hard to gauge what his stance is on this he's indirectly saying that he thinks that misogyny is repulsive (which it is) and that anyone who says "lol it's just a flash game" is a moron (and for good reason)
What's with Facepunch's sudden feminist movement? I'm not saying it's wrong, but literally almost over night a few weeks back Facepunch went from people who couldn't give a shit about video game contents, to white knighting against any form of even slight sexism, flinging the term "Misogyny" around constantly like candy, most of the time in debates that had nothing to do with sexism or video games. I can't be the only one who is annoyed as fuck seeing the word twenty times on every page that even mentions women slightly.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;36676871]there is almost an equal balance of male and female gamers, janus game devs, i dont know[/QUOTE] Sure, but there's more male core gamers and that's what her documentaries are probably gonna be about. Lately the title "gamer" has been expanded to include facebook games etc which obviously balances the gender ratio.
If anything this is just compounding the problem. The problem of which I speak is this entire Tropes vs Women vs the Internet fiasco. I don't like things like Tropes vs Women because all it does is complain about an issue that's old as shit itself, and then they say nothing to fix the problem. TvW: "We want women that are sexy but not too sexy, and strong but not too strong, and intelligent but not too intelligent." Dev/Writer: "Okay, give us an example." TvW: "That's your problem LOL! Just FIX IT NOW!" I mean, these are the types of people who are completely insatiable either way, so it's no use trying to appease them. "OH NO SHE'S WEARING TOO MUCH CLOTHING! MEN ARE CONTROLLING HER FREE-WILL!" "OH NO SHE'S NOT WEARING ENOUGH CLOTHING! SHE'S BEEN TURNED INTO A SEX OBJECT BY MEN!" Take someone unreasonable and pit them against the internet, it's kind of obvious that a storm of unreasonable words and actions are going to follow suit.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;36677547]What's with Facepunch's sudden feminist movement? I'm not saying it's wrong, but literally almost over night a few weeks back Facepunch went from people who couldn't give a shit about video game contents, to white knighting against any form of even slight sexism, flinging the term "Misogyny" around constantly like candy, most of the time in debates that had nothing to do with sexism or video games. I can't be the only one who is annoyed as fuck seeing the word twenty times on every page that even mentions women slightly.[/QUOTE] The unbanning of Lankist, pretty much.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;36677547]What's with Facepunch's sudden feminist movement? I'm not saying it's wrong, but literally almost over night a few weeks back Facepunch went from people who couldn't give a shit about video game contents, to white knighting against any form of even slight sexism, flinging the term "Misogyny" around constantly like candy, most of the time in debates that had nothing to do with sexism or video games. I can't be the only one who is annoyed as fuck seeing the word twenty times on every page that even mentions women slightly.[/QUOTE] [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/permaban_everyone_on_this_list.JPG[/img]
[QUOTE=Wii60;36677163]did someone give justin beiber this much attention when a justin beiber punch up game happened because, you know, equality. meanwhile, here's the only sane video ever going to be made about the female video game thing [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZueOCLGt1tw&feature=player_detailpage[/media][/QUOTE] While I do believe there is direct misogyny in videogames, I do not believe its because its part of some evil agenda. I believe its because its filled with men who've never had a class or been taught the hardships of women. These people are intelligent human beings, most need to know Computer Science and Calculus as well as 3D modeling and game design abilities. This a job not for the simple minded. The way that this Tropes vs Women(The one in the article) video is going about is that she is making it seem like there is some sort of evil agenda. [editline]8th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36677684][img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/permaban_everyone_on_this_list.JPG[/img][/QUOTE] OH SWEEET! I'm number 8 in the highscore chart!
Honestly, I don't think we really need the videos. As people have said, they'll mostly be watched by people who already agree with them. However, this whole backlash has shown that we need some discussion about misogyny in video games and gamer culture. It's probably the largest single sign recently. She didn't need 6,000$ to make these videos, but people gladly gave her 160,000$ for them, of their own free will. They know what they're giving their money for, you can't claim that she's "scamming" them. It would be nice if she did somewhat different videos on the topic, since I don't think videos on [del]"Man with Boobs" and "Mrs. Male Character"[/del] "Fighting Fuck Toy" and "Women as Reward" will be anywhere near as helpful as videos on "Why do these neckbeards think it's okay to harass women for speaking up or just playing games". Because, you know. That whole "harassing women for speaking up or just playing games" thing. Actually, wait, I just thought of something: I was thinking that the "Man with Boobs" videos would be pretty useless, since it doesn't seem like much of a problem, just "oh, this woman is [I]too[/I] tough". However, now that I think about it, that would be one of the [I]more[/I] useful videos. Everyone [I]knows[/I] characters like Ivy and having women be the reward for accomplishments are sexist. But it's the things where you [I]can't[/I] easily understand how something is sexist that we need videos on. They might [I]fail[/I] and actually be useless, but trying and failing is better than saying the same things everyone has said over and over and over again of "these boobs are too big". There's hammering on a point so that people don't forget it, and then there's this. Yes, having ridiculous boobs in games (and all fiction) is, well, ridiculous. But anyone who [I]doesn't[/I] already know it's ridiculous is... I don't know, I can't think of anyone who wouldn't be able to tell. Now, a video explaining why ignoring this knowledge and putting in ridiculous boobs to attract guys actually hurts the industry due to alienating women from buying those games, and contributing to larger societal standards of judging women by their breasts, [I]that[/I] would be a worthwhile video. Although I [I]really[/I] don't understand how "sexy villain" and "ugly villain" can [I]both[/I] be sexist, since we do both of those exact same things for male characters too. The male villains are either scarred, ugly, and gruff, or if they're from Japan, they're bishies. Unless if she just wants villains to look [I]normal[/I], which is completely understandable. But I'm not sure if that warrants a whole video, rather just a segment. Or a [I]short[/I] video. [QUOTE=Midas22;36677149]Its just her, feminists and a bunch of white knights complaining because if flash game was a male nobody would give a shit, it'd be hilarious. I'm just gonna be blunt, in my opinion Anita is a retard, you either support her work or you're a rapist and she even says retarded shit like how we live in a "rape culture". Not only that but her fans are idiots too, resorting to hypocritical abuse towards the creator of the flash game and attempting to abosolutly ruin his life by trying to get him in jail so he knows what rape is like or so he can never hold down a job again.[/QUOTE] "feminists rabble rabble white knights rabble rabble" [QUOTE=Wii60;36677163]did someone give justin beiber this much attention when a justin beiber punch up game happened because, you know, equality.[/QUOTE] Except Justin Bieber isn't trying to fight sexism in video games. He's Justin Bieber.
I don't really care too much about what she's doing but this is definitely a little over the top The main reasons I think it's a pretty useless fund is that a) It's primarily funded and will be watched by people who already agree b) She's complaining that women aren't portrayed realistically when a lot of those games are just supposed to be goofy and unrealistic anyways
Like I said before, she might as well just give all her money back, because the reactions of people to her video highlight misogyny way better than her documentary ever will.
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;36677720]I don't really care too much about what she's doing but this is definitely a little over the top[/QUOTE] then why post
[QUOTE=Ownederd;36677753]then why post[/QUOTE] Why am I posting an opinion on an internet forum? I'll let you ponder on that.
Holy sweeping dumb's Batman. I think everyone has at least two in this thread.
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;36677783]Why am I posting an opinion on an internet forum? I'll let you ponder on that.[/QUOTE] ok dude but you explicitly advertised that you don't care, so if you're not bothered by this, then why waste your time on it? lol
so wait what fp supports her ok
[QUOTE=Swilly;36677813]Holy sweeping dumb's Batman. I think everyone has at least two in this thread.[/QUOTE] I think I had 2 in under a minute. I [I]know[/I] they couldn't have read my whole post that quickly.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;36677827]ok dude but you explicitly advertised that you don't care, so if you're not bothered by this, then why waste your time on it? lol[/QUOTE] I'd have to wonder why you and your two box rating goons care enough to get all pissy about it. Besides, I did elaborate on my post.
She doesn't need any of this money to make her videos.
just you wait until lankist gets here then you'll all wish you went out today instead of post in this thread
[QUOTE=Bobie;36677876]just you wait until lankist gets here then you'll all wish you went out today instead of post in this thread[/QUOTE] he'll probably just school a lot of people and be trapped into a nigh-infinite loop of arguing with stubborn people he's cursed, that one
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;36677862]She doesn't need any of this money to make her videos.[/QUOTE] There are people with a shoestring budget that have made videos multiple times better than videos which have had thousands put into them. Kickstarter bandwagons are a load of rubbish, keep them for projects that need them;I blame the donators and the people that start them
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;36677851]I'd have to wonder why you and your two box rating goons care enough to get all pissy about it. Besides, I did elaborate on my post.[/QUOTE] lol you could go about this without being abrasive
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