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[QUOTE=.Isak.;40147668]I'm really hoping Tesla manages to popularize all-electric vehicles. There's so many plusses to them. The ONLY two issues with them is the distance limit and the charging time. Just imagine electric vehicles being commonplace. If supercharging stations were as common as gas stations, this would be incredible. You wouldn't be able to hear highways from miles away like you can now - electric vehicles are quiet as all hell. I'm just in love with Tesla, fuck.[/QUOTE] I see Chevy Volts at least once a month. I'm not sure yet if its the same dude because they're all red but, I still see it quite often. Then I seen a red Tesla Model S on the interstate hauling ass past me silently. I have yet to see a Leaf though. I'm sure as time goes by you'll see more and more.
[QUOTE=OvB;40147813]I see Chevy Volts at least once a month. I'm not sure yet if its the same dude because they're all red but, I still see it quite often. Then I seen a red Tesla Model S on the interstate hauling ass past me silently. I have yet to see a Leaf though. I'm sure as time goes by you'll see more and more.[/QUOTE] Yeah, hybrids are everywhere. I see a Prius or two every day. I've seen a Leaf on a highway once, and a Volt or two down in Austin. I'm just hoping all-Electric vehicles start becoming commonplace. They're hugely advantageous over gasoline cars, and less expensive and less damaging in the long run.
There's a few electric car chargers in an industrial complex near my house up here in Massachusetts. I'm not sure if they work with Tesla Roadsters or not, it doesn't say specifically which cars will work with it.
I'd get one, but i don't have $60K+ or the money to afford a new battery every 5 years, so i'm gonna stick with good ole dead dinosaur juice.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;40151043]There's a few electric car chargers in an industrial complex near my house up here in Massachusetts. I'm not sure if they work with Tesla Roadsters or not, it doesn't say specifically which cars will work with it.[/QUOTE] They work with the Tesla most likely, as long as it's the SAE standard which was starting to be put in place in 2001. Every Model S comes with a couple of adapters to work with 120V outlets, 240V outlets and the SAE J1772 plug commonly found on charging stations.
Tesla is a very fast car too.. found this video on youtube! tesla vs viper [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLCdP6sMN9k[/url] I also read somewhere tesla would cost you around 5bucks per 200 miles on "fuel" .. a lot cheaper than gas
[QUOTE=zombini;40151235]I'd get one, but i don't have $60K+ or the money to afford a new battery every 5 years, so i'm gonna stick with good ole dead dinosaur juice.[/QUOTE] The battery is guaranteed to last 8 years.
Infrastructure definatly needs improved, batteries need to last longer, and/or batteries need to be able to accept charges must faster (i.e. graphine-based battery, anyone? apparently these things capture and hold charges extremely well). The problem with electric is that it literally takes you about 40 hours of charging to go from empty to full on a standard outlet, to about 8 hours on a 12v specialty outlet you have to custom intstall. The only things capable of not taking forever and a year to charge an electric vehicle are the super chargers, which are extremely uncommon. Or maybe an electric car that gets its energy from the sun+kenetic+wind? Or something else?
They're not finished yet: [I]HE: Speaking of two-thirds, I saw your recent tweet that said the announcement today would be the “2nd in a 5 part trilogy (love Douglas Adams).” Can you explain? I know he wrote The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy….[/I] EM: Ha ha ha well there are actually five books in that series, which he called a trilogy. [I] HE: When is the next announcement?[/I] EM: The next one will be sometime next week. It could be as soon as Monday, but we haven’t decided on a firm date. [B]Did I mention we’ll be focusing on service? The Monday announcement is going to be focused on service.[/B] And [B]in the following week or two after that we’re going to have a big announcement on the supercharger network[/B], and [B]then following that we’re going to have a mystery announcement or two if people aren’t completely sick of hearing about us. Ha ha.[/B] [url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/hannahelliott/2013/04/03/elon-musk-hitchhiking-the-galaxy-as-tesla-comes-of-age/[/url]
Even if this particular car isn't very successful, Tesla are doing a great job at pushing electric cars forward, especially when it comes to infrastructure.
[QUOTE=OvB;40146100]The company is making a profit, and they've pledged to pay back their federal loan (pre-auto bailout) in 5 years instead of 10. I'd say they have it. Teslas can be charged with any household outlet overnight. You would have a full battery by morning. You can also charge at a Supercharger which can give you back most of your battery fairly quickly. (hour or so depending on size) Here's another thing you can play with about the charging times: [url]http://www.teslamotors.com/goelectric#charging[/url] The majority of the weight is [B]below the axles[/B] giving one of the lowest centers of gravity in any vehicle. It handles fairly well in snow. I think the majority of customers are in snowy climates, many in Norway. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0sflIrq_UM&list=UU5WjFrtBdufl6CZojX3D8dQ&index=13[/media] Tesla Superchargers are being built all over the country. Right now they're only operational on the West and East coast, but in about two years there will be one every 200 miles or so on the Interstate. Elon has said he would like them to be every 60 miles. [img]http://i.imgur.com/PPwJVNz.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/aOMv45J.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/FfquCQC.jpg[/img] Here's a Model S on the track: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU9qYfXltqE[/media] Have a better explained Motor Trend drive: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOdsTuaJEfc[/media] In a few years there will be a two motor model. Many Tesla Superchargers use 100% solar, and Tesla recommends installing solar panels through a lease with SolarCity to your house to charge your car. And using power generated from dirty power plants is still cleaner than burning fuel in a car.[/QUOTE] As far as charging, even the long term plan leaves them few and far between. Owners may never see a charging station at all unless they do long road trip. Even with a lot of the weight being below the axles, thats a shit load of weight. 4700lbs is more weight than my full size pickup from 1979. My pickup is 4wd, solid axles front and rear, cast iron transfer case, all steel elsewhere, and still weighs less than this car. Comparing this car to mine in terms of weight, my car is a '99 Subaru Impreza Wagon with AWD. It weighs 2700lbs, the flat Boxer engine lowers the center of gravity, the AWD helps balance out the weight distrobution. I cant currently watch the videos, but track driving really doesnt show how good a car is
The thing about the Superchargers is they're meant for long distance drives. If you have 200-300 miles of driving to do in one day then you're likely going to find one. Unless you're doing a ton of running around in a small area which might be a problem, but how often do people burn 300 miles worth of gas in one sitting? So unless you're on a road trip or running tons of errands, you won't need to recharge on the road. If people got 300 miles worth of Gasoline every morning for their daily drives, do you think gas stations would be as common as they are? Gas stations are so frequent because people drive until they need fuel. In an electric you're getting a full "tank" every morning regardless. If all you're doing is driving from work to home and picking up the kids every day you'll never have to worry about the charge.
I really think that all the car companies that have stakes in electric cars (GM, Nissan, Tesla, etc) really need to team up to bring up the infrastructure for electric cars. Electric cars are simply not going to be viable unless charging stations are perhaps half as common as gas stations, IMO. Maybe it would be a good idea to get partnerships with different gas stations to try to spread chargers to them as well.
[QUOTE=Fhenexx;40162999]I really think that all the car companies that have stakes in electric cars (GM, Nissan, Tesla, etc) really need to team up to bring up the infrastructure for electric cars. Electric cars are simply not going to be viable unless charging stations are perhaps half as common as gas stations, IMO. Maybe it would be a good idea to get partnerships with different gas stations to try to spread chargers to them as well.[/QUOTE] Tesla provides parts for both Mercedes and Toyota. Elon Musk just said the other day that he wishes to have more competition. He wants to see more EV's whether they're his or not. [url]http://money.cnn.com/video/pf/2013/04/03/pf-w-tesla-elon-mush.cnnmoney/index.html[/url] Though I feel that the big car manufacturers don't care about EV's, and only build them for feel-good concepts that never sell more than a few units. They're always really "out there" in design and have gimmicky electricity themed names, Chevy Volt, Chevy Spark, etc. They're too invested in the oil industry to swap over to electric yet. They won't make a real good EV until they see how big of a threat Tesla is to their sales. Think about Hybrids. About a decade ago it was the new gimmicky eco-car. They made hybrids, but you [I]knew[/I] it was a hybrid like the Prius. Now pretty much every manufacture has options to buy their "normal" line-up with Hybrid options, such as the Hybrid Tahoe. Until they start making EVs look like normal cars -like what Tesla is doing- no one is going to want to buy them. Though that has already started with the Toyota RAV4 EV, and Mercedes B-Class. Both using Tesla parts. [editline]4th April 2013[/editline] To build an infrastructure you need an incentive to have it. If we just keep saying that electric cars are not going to take off because they're hard to charge in public then were never going to get anywhere. We need a reason for people to say "Hey, I might start up a charging station here." That reason is building more EVs. I'd really like to see Tesla allow third parties to build their Superchargers, so we could have more electric "gas stations."
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