[QUOTE=Atlascore;32625423]You said it yourself, genius, it was a stupid joke, I didn't find it funny so I rated it dumb, why does that mean I'm taking it seriously?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, so you'd refrain from rating if I didn't include the word "stupid"? :rolleyes:
You rated because of:
"I can almost guarantee you that nothing will happen at all. China doesn't seem like the nation that start wars."
"Either way China is going to win . . ."
"And by the looks of the article in OP, that Chinese article seems to be one of those "opinion" things that random people are writing to stir shit up."
which you found were statements that differed from yours. Because I know you posted here before and I know that your opinions are different from mine. People tend to vote someone dumb when there's a conflicting opinions.
Now I look like a ratings whore. :(
I yield!
Didn't China try this like a thousand years ago against Vietnam and it didn't work? And then France and the US also tried and failed as well. Attacking people who have more a reason to fight than the attacking forces never works unless the attackers have a massive technological advantage or don't care about wiping out the indigenous population.
[QUOTE=markfu;32625717]Didn't China try this like a thousand years ago against Vietnam and it didn't work? And then France and the US also tried and failed as well. Attacking people who have more a reason to fight than the attacking forces never works unless the attackers have a massive technological advantage or don't care about wiping out the indigenous population.[/QUOTE]
Haha not really a thousand years ago, but about 40-50 years ago.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Paracel_Islands[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_South_Reef_Skirmish[/url]
[QUOTE=Swebonny;32625856]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War[/url] [/QUOTE]
that was in response to vietnam invading cambodia
Vietnam is troll. Except unlike most trolls, you meet them in real life they'll kick your ass.
[quote]killing one chicken to scare the monkeys[/quote]
I do that all the time, man
[QUOTE=gman003-main;32617536]Now think what happens internationally if China's factories are too busy making ammunition and guns to make cheap iPods and Camrys? Manufacturing costs rise, but they also move elsewhere - decent odds on Brazil, South Africa or India, but some of them will definitely come back all the way to the US. That shift, combined with a [U]real[/U] pullout from the Gulf, might be enough to bring the economy back into full swing again.[/QUOTE]
I agree up to this point
you can't just reconfigure a factory that makes plastic, electronic consumer products into a military factory, especially the massive automated ones that make all that exported shit. If anything they'd build new factories (it'd literally be cheaper) and still have an export going. Their economy would take a hit for sure, but not because of this.
[QUOTE=sharzu;32619429]Anyway, there won't be shit happening. The major countries won't be making the mistake of releasing fallout 4 just yet.[/QUOTE]
I for one wouldn't mind an early release of Fallout 4
[QUOTE=wewt!;32628671]I agree up to this point
you can't just reconfigure a factory that makes plastic, electronic consumer products into a military factory, especially the massive automated ones that make all that exported shit. If anything they'd build new factories (it'd literally be cheaper) and still have an export going. Their economy would take a hit for sure, but not because of this.[/QUOTE]
lol
chinese guns
I have a feeling that China might take the path of a bad government. Well the government already kinda sucks...
Even if this source isn't credible. Don't you guys think the Chinese government definitely needs some serious changing?
World War 3, but at least its commies vs commies in there too.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;32617536]
Now think what happens internationally if China's factories are too busy making ammunition and guns to make cheap iPods and Camrys? Manufacturing costs rise, but they also move elsewhere - decent odds on Brazil, South Africa or India, but some of them will definitely come back all the way to the US. That shift, combined with a [u]real[/u] pullout from the Gulf, might be enough to bring the economy back into full swing again.[/QUOTE]
People are too used to cheap goods and CEOs too used to easy money to ever bring manufacturing jobs back to the US unless there was a HUGE incentive to do so, so yeah, my money's on Mexico/South America or possibly India as well.
[QUOTE=markfu;32625717]Didn't China try this like a thousand years ago against Vietnam and it didn't work? And then France and the US also tried and failed as well. Attacking people who have more a reason to fight than the attacking forces never works unless the attackers have a massive technological advantage or don't care about wiping out the indigenous population.[/QUOTE]
I don't think China would care much about wiping our the population tbh
Regardless, nothing will come of this.
Just read the article, I must say that they won't gain much here: towns may fall, people may die, but we, the Vietnamese, will never, EVER, surrender to those barbaric Chinese. We've done well for the last 1000 years and we will continue to do so, proudly.
[QUOTE=alexglitch;32633610]Just read the article, I must say that they won't gain much here: towns may fall, people may die, but we, the Vietnamese, will never, EVER, surrender to those barbaric Chinese. We've done well for the last 1000 years and we will continue to do so, proudly.[/QUOTE]
Good thing this is just some opinionated maverick.
Plz don't attack my homeland.
[QUOTE=alexglitch;32633610]Just read the article, I must say that they won't gain much here: towns may fall, people may die, but we, the Vietnamese, will never, EVER, surrender to those barbaric Chinese. We've done well for the last 1000 years and we will continue to do so, proudly.[/QUOTE]
Vietnamese represent.
[QUOTE=Baldr 2.0;32619881]Does America have the capacity to have a blow like that after years of moving manufacturing company's to China? Do you have enough capacity of temporarily replacing it? [/QUOTE]Yeah. We do. The buildings, equipment and infrastructure related to the manufacturing of overseas goods is still here, a lot of it still owned by the companies or is sitting in a warehouse owned by some company who buys and sells industrial equipment. That would be an investment on their part, because if China did attempt to switch to a wartime economy then companies would be forced to manufacture locally.
I like how you make little jabs about "forclosures" and I'm sure you tried to think of a way to include unemployment in there as well. The problems the United States faces, right now, pretty much boil down to a ridiculously broken economy, bad spending and dumbasses in office. With unemployment as high as it is, I think China pissing everyone off and forcing companies to manufacture locally would be a good thing.
So this idiot wants to invade the Philippines, potentially jeopardizing Singapore AND Japan?
There goes what's left of the international economy.
Vietnam is literally a giant mass of jungle filled with swamps, cheap hookers, STDS, and baguettes. It also may have been the setting for a few Nicholas Cage movies.
There is nothing to be gained from invading it.
ITT: Facepunchers who barely passed reading comprehension with hard-ons for battlefield 3: real-life edition.
also: OP and others are wasis
[QUOTE=ewitwins;32619611]It's like you don't understand globalization or something. You think our economy would suffer if we had to cut ties with China? Hell yes it would, but it would pale in comparison to what would happen to China's economy.[/QUOTE]
While I believe this to be true, wasn't the same said about global economy before World War I?
Complacency is a sneaky bastard...
China's ghost economy needs to crash anyways, maybe Vietnam could use some of those empty cities in China.
Fuck off China Philippines is already going through a typhoon.
This is just like my last session in Civ V
Well, seeing as this war wouldn't directly target the United States, I guess I can't make an "It Begins" joke with a Fallout image.
I wonder what my Dad, as a Vietnam Veteran, would have to say about this.
[QUOTE=Jitters;32648392]I wonder what my Dad, as a Vietnam Veteran, would have to say about this.[/QUOTE]
"Go get 'em Charlie!"
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32617198]Also we have military bases in SK and Japan, and I'm pretty sure our forces in Hawaii could get to China in a matter of days.[/QUOTE]
Hours, Airborne would be dropped in within hours of the call from the president. Of course if war did break out you'd have to assume all special forces would be on call.
My Dad's a Vietnam vet.
I think what he would most likely do if he were to hear of anything like this is just sadly shake his head and say that the Chinese have no idea what they're getting themselves into.
The man flew 50+ missions and was shot down twice, splashed down once and hit the mud once. He knows what the fuck is in those jungles, and how well the Vietnamese use them. The Chinese would be stuck faster than they can say...whatever the hell they might say if they found themselves in an unwinnable situation.
Of course, knowing the Chinese government, they'd be liable to just burn down the entire jungle and crush everything in their way. Who knows.
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