Club of black students at Ann Arbor school goes on field trip, other students offended - Polidicks

[quote]While there’s no clear agreement between the two sides about exactly what happened, most of the controversy centers on a field trip taken last week by the Lunch Bunch for African American boys and girls to hear a black rocket engineer talk. [/quote] Sounds like a club for African-American students went on a field trip. Title is way overreacting.

[QUOTE=cheesedelux;21777669]So a school counters old racism with racism and your solution is to counter with more racism. Two wrongs don't make a right, but three wrongs do?[/QUOTE] No but it'd be funny as hell to watch happen

The white kids should go on a white-only trip to six flags while the black kids catch up

[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21782444]Sounds like a club for African-American students went on a field trip. Title is way overreacting.[/QUOTE] The point is that if it was a club of white students and the black students couldn't go there would've been a riot, it's a double-standard and it's the kind bullshit that highlights differences between people and perpetuates racism and discrimination. There is no gap between black and white students, there's a gap in education between low-income areas and high-income areas, they are just as capable as whites, the low-income areas just happen to have a higher concentration, sad reality, if they're in a low-income area I guarantee that the white students would be in the same boat if they're all putting in the same amount of effort, so that "They aren't equal so they deserve it" mentality is bullshit as well.

[QUOTE=XxPsychoxX;21783206]The point is that if it was a club of white students and the black students couldn't go there would've been a riot, it's a double-standard and it's the kind bullshit that highlights differences between people and perpetuates racism and discrimination. There is no gap between black and white students, there's a gap in education between low-income areas and high-income areas, they are just as capable as whites, the low-income areas just happen to have a higher concentration, sad reality, if they're in a low-income area I guarantee that the white students would be in the same boat if they're all putting in the same amount of effort, so that "They aren't equal so they deserve it" mentality is bullshit as well.[/QUOTE] It's a nice thought but there's more factors than just location and economic status--expectation has a LOT to do with performance, and black kids (especially in the low-income areas you mentioned) tend to get socially conditioned to think they don't have any potential and that they can never be successful. The field trip thing was a misguided attempt to say "look, you really can do whatever you want." Seems like the "white students were banned from coming" thing is probably BS spun up by the local reactionaries, too.

[QUOTE=TH89;21783315]It's a nice thought but there's more factors than just location and economic status--expectation has a LOT to do with performance, and black kids (especially in the low-income areas you mentioned) tend to get socially conditioned to think they don't have any potential and that they can never be successful. The field trip thing was a misguided attempt to say "look, you really can do whatever you want." Seems like the "white students were banned from coming" thing is probably BS spun up by the local reactionaries, too.[/QUOTE] Still isn't right if the white kids couldn't come along too, I know I would of flipped shit if I didn't get to meet a rocket scientist just because of my skin color but other kids could.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;21783339]Still isn't right if the white kids couldn't come along too, I know I would of flipped shit if I didn't get to meet a rocket scientist just because of my skin color but other kids could.[/QUOTE] Nowhere does it say that they couldn't come along. I think that might be a point of contention. But I agree that that would be douchey.

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[QUOTE=cheesedelux;21777669]So a school counters old racism with racism and your solution is to counter with more racism. Two wrongs don't make a right, but three wrongs do?[/QUOTE] Well actually, if you are going from the direction of forward then the first wrong makes a right. But if you started with the right and made a wrong that would put you behind or forward depending on which way you were going. So another wrong would put you to left either way. Followed by another putting you again at forward and behind, then you get put back to right no matter what and the circle is complete. So 4 wrongs make a right, so he is still off by one. So when the school counters him again they will then make the right choice from that point onward. Plus it's possible that the first two wrongs would cancel each other out, perhaps not making a right, but falling into a neutral zone, looking at it from a more fate/destiny controlled view point.

[QUOTE=Axznma;21783448]Well actually, if you are going from the direction of forward then the first wrong makes a right. But if you started with the right and made a wrong that would put you behind or forward depending on which way you were going. So another wrong would put you to left either way. Followed by another putting again at forward and behind, then you get put back to right no matter what and the circle is complete. So 4 wrongs make a right, so he is still off by one. So when the school counters him again they will then make the right choice from that point onward. Plus it's possible that the first two wrongs would cancel each other out, perhaps not making a right, but falling into a neutral zone, looking at it from a more fate/destiny controlled view point.[/QUOTE] [img]http://wongfuproductions.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/psyduck.gif[/img]

I want to start a white history club We have a black club, an asian club, a muslim club, hell we even have a christian club. I wonder what kind of shit would fly...

[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;21783491]I want to start a white history club We have a black club, an asian club, a muslim club, hell we even have a christian club. I wonder what kind of shit would fly...[/QUOTE] You already have one It's called "history class"

[QUOTE=TH89;21783515]You already have one It's called "history class"[/QUOTE] Well I mean one that blatantly glorifies domination by white people

They have that too, it's called the Ku Klux Klan

[QUOTE=TH89;21783606]They have that too, it's called the Ku Klux Klan[/QUOTE] No I mean one where we only focus on badass dominators, like the vikings, the germanic tribes, the romans, the british empire. You know, the cool stuff, not this depressing slavery stuff. Or maybe I could make a communism club...

[QUOTE=bugfix;21776867]It can't be racist when it's against white people.[/QUOTE] Aaah, satire. [QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;21783643]No I mean one where we only focus on badass dominators, like the vikings, the germanic tribes, the romans, the british empire. You know, the cool stuff, not this depressing slavery stuff. Or maybe I could make a communism club...[/QUOTE] Communism: Fight racism againts blacks and asains. "equality", while they're saying "White piece of shit" towards white without anyone reacts, just censor it!. Also those "dominators" was for ages ago, why should lefties and non-whites hate whites for that?. I don't think white people meant to be dominated. Yay!, go communism!. No, i'm joking. Nazism and communism is both very awful ideologies.

I'm thinking of the one kid who has white skin but is African American on the field trip.

[QUOTE=TH89;21783488][IMG]http://wongfuproductions.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/psyduck.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] Do you know what that thing is? I think people should live in harmony with races, but never gonna happen because racism is everywhere.

[img]http://newsbusters.org/static/2009/11/Jesse%20Jackson%20Says%20%27Blacks%20Can%27t%20Vote%20Against%20Healthcare%27,%20Media%20Mostly%20Mum.jpg[/img] This is not racist; black power.

If it was white people instead of black people, lefties and communists would go apeshit and rage like hell.

[QUOTE=Chekko;21783862]If it was white people instead of black people, lefties and communists would go apeshit and rage like hell.[/QUOTE] It does happen all the time in the South The white parents fund private events like proms and field trips for the white kids so that the school doesn't get blamed for it [editline]01:58AM[/editline] [QUOTE=doonbugie;21783741]Do you know what that thing is?[/QUOTE] :psyduck:

I don't quite... appreciate the thread title change, but whatever. People will draw their own conclusions.

Your thread title was not factually supported by the story you posted You're free to editorialize after you post the story but trying to influence people's opinions before they even read the story is pretty unethical

[QUOTE=TH89;21783488][img]http://wongfuproductions.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/psyduck.gif[/img][/QUOTE] It's a little bit of a paradox of the "justified" reality and a little bit of philosophical psychology mixed. Or in other words I'm countering the pointlessness created by humanity in it's infinite "wisdom" known as racism with my own pointlessness of using the subjective moral base in a physical/nonephysical way of direction and the possible universal law of equality by canceling two of the same negatives out, of course that would require the universe to be based on a moral level which could possibly mean it's sentient but that's an entire other discussion. Yeah I used big words for no real reason. tldr: Countering pointlessness (racism) with pointlessness (the shit I said).

[QUOTE=the_KMM;21784060]I don't quite... appreciate the thread title change, but whatever. People will draw their own conclusions.[/QUOTE] Heavens forbid a mod changes your race-baiting title into one that more properly describes what's going on.

[QUOTE=Chekko;21783656]Communism: Fight racism againts blacks and asains. "equality", while they're saying "White piece of shit" towards white without anyone reacts, just censor it!. Also those "dominators" was for ages ago, why should lefties and non-whites hate whites for that?. I don't think white people meant to be dominated.[/QUOTE] What the fuck did you just say?

[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;21784221]What the fuck did you just say?[/QUOTE] [img]http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/0922-beckchart3.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=TH89;21784268][IMG]http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/0922-beckchart3.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Oh, come on. No need to take pot shots.

What do you expect, intelligent discourse? This isn't SA.

[QUOTE=TH89;21784268][img]http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/0922-beckchart3.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] can't see the picture clearly, what does it say/mean?