Aussies give EA the 2013 Shonky Awards for unfair play - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Novangel;42696827]Origin is a better program than Steam by far on a technical level what are you even on about? And EA totally didn't start out by making games no sirree[/QUOTE]Are you trolling or joking?

[QUOTE=RoboChimp;42696848]Are you trolling or joking?[/QUOTE] Christ only every day Steam shits its pants over something for me. From what I've heard, so many other people have these problems too. While I still feel Steam offers so much more than Origin, they're really gonna need to step up their quality, lest Origin becomes number one someday.

[QUOTE=RoboChimp;42696848]Are you trolling or joking?[/QUOTE] Sorry to burst your bubble but when Origin can make use of a 100mbp/s download speeds, not hog up your RAM, a few other things I can't be bothered to search up right now, I'm pretty sure that signifies better infastructure.

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;42690492]iirc the biggest reason behind the high prices of australian games is the higher standard of living. isn't minimum wage like 15 bucks in australia?[/QUOTE] Australia having a minimum wage significantly higher than the US isn't a problem with our economy or taxes or anything. It's an indication that [i]your[/i] country's economy is fucking retarded.

[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;42696911]Australia having a minimum wage significantly higher than the US isn't a problem with our economy or taxes or anything. It's an indication that [i]your[/i] country's economy is fucking retarded.[/QUOTE] I guess this explains fruxo's post then? I'm so used to the economy here in the states that I never thought that games shouldn't scale in price just because Australia makes higher wages. I'm still not exactly sure why games shouldn't scale, so if you would care to enlighten us instead of calling our economy "fucking retarded", that'd be cool.

I honestly don't get the hate for Origin anymore. It works fine nowadays - if anything, works better. Plus I get much better and stable speeds from EA's CDN. Steam is great, and I still prefer it, but it's good to have competition.

[QUOTE=Novangel;42696870]Sorry to burst your bubble but when Origin can make use of a 100mbp/s download speeds, not hog up your RAM, a few other things I can't be bothered to search up right now, I'm pretty sure that signifies better infastructure.[/QUOTE]Burst my bubble? No really, are you.. kidding around right?

[QUOTE=Reds;42696622]No. I'm really tired of amateur economists saying this. The abest part is when people who live in the damn country come out and tell you that that's bullshit, and then you just go "no, this is how your economy works i know because your minimum wage is higher".[/QUOTE] In his defense, that literally is one of the main excuses most international companies use for charging us more for stuff. It's not his 'amateur economist' theory. It's still complete bullshit though.

[QUOTE=Novangel;42696827]Origin is a better program than Steam by far on a technical level what are you even on about? And EA totally didn't start out by making games no sirree[/QUOTE] Origin doesn't have enough games... On a somewhat unrelated note, I really want EA to sharpen up and get their act on. They own some of the precious IPs in gaming history. They could easily put out actual 9/10 games every three years or so. But from this 'award', and other related incidents in the past, it doesn't seem like this is happening anytime soon. Yeah, the Humble Origin bundle was a step in the right direction, but it seems every time something like it happens, EA then takes four steps backward and falls into into a ditch full of used syringes. Watching EA screw up was funny at first, then it became pitiful, and now it's just disappointing. What happened to the company that greenlit System Shock 2? What happened?

[QUOTE=elevate;42697001]I guess this explains fruxo's post then? I'm so used to the economy here in the states that I never thought that games shouldn't scale in price just because Australia makes higher wages. I'm still not exactly sure why games shouldn't scale, so if you would care to enlighten us instead of calling our economy "fucking retarded", that'd be cool.[/QUOTE]1 AUD = 0.95 USD, but why does that mean we Australians should pay for services which are free for US customers? Your economy is "fucking retarded" because you went through recessions because the banks over there were lending too much money to people who couldn't pay it back.

[QUOTE=RoboChimp;42697188]1 AUD = 0.95 USD, but why does that mean we Australians should pay for services which are free for US customers?[/QUOTE] I was referring to games in that post. Services are irrelevant here, but if EA charges for services for Australians that they don't charge us, than that just sucks. Unless it's really costing them money to offer services to Australians, then they should cut it out. [QUOTE=RoboChimp;42697188]Your economy is "fucking retarded" because you went through recessions because the banks over there were lending too much money to people who couldn't pay it back.[/QUOTE] While this is definitely true, and also "retarded", it still doesn't answer my question of why games should NOT scale with the increasing wages in Australia. Are games already costly enough? I want to learn.

[QUOTE=RoboChimp;42696848]Are you trolling or joking?[/QUOTE] No he's correct, i've used Origin and let me tell you when I went back to steam it was fucking painful, Origin has little to no bugs and it is so fast, my download speed isn't capped on Origin and games load instantly, Steam is a piece of shit program and Valve needs to fix it Also no matter how much steam is good, monoplies suck and I thank EA for doing something about it [editline]30th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=elevate;42697203]While this is definitely true, and also "retarded", it still doesn't answer my question of why games should NOT scale with the increasing wages in Australia. Are games already costly enough? I want to learn.[/QUOTE] It's mainly EBgames, they're the ones who spike up the price so much but people still buy from them, why? Because Australia doesn't have a total game retailer, sure we've got Dick Smith and JB HI-FI but they're more for buying electronics not buying games, games are just that little side on addition for them. The average game in Australia that is new cost $90AUD that is $85.50USD and 53.30 Pounds SOME games cost around $110AUD which is $104.64USD and 65.18 Pounds EBGames is notorious for spiking their game prices up, GTA V cost me $110AUD, my pre-order for BF4 cost me $90AUD, and I got a pre-owned version of Black Ops 2 for around $40AUD For digital and electronic products however it can be terrible, not everyone here has a well paying job and most here do it tough, so shit like this does affect us and companies take advantage of it, which is why Australia should stop doing these Parliamentary Inquiries and actually launch a Royal Commission because they get more work done and more results than a fucking PI

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42697468]It's mainly EBgames, they're the ones who spike up the price so much but people still buy from them, why? Because Australia doesn't have a total game retailer, sure we've got Dick Smith and JB HI-FI but they're more for buying electronics not buying games, games are just that little side on addition for them. The average game in Australia that is new cost $90AUD that is $85.50USD and 53.30 Pounds SOME games cost around $110AUD which is $104.64USD and 65.18 Pounds EBGames is notorious for spiking their game prices up, GTA V cost me $110AUD, my pre-order for BF4 cost me $90AUD, and I got a pre-owned version of Black Ops 2 for around $40AUD For digital and electronic products however it can be terrible, not everyone here has a well paying job and most here do it tough, so shit like this does affect us and companies take advantage of it, which is why Australia should stop doing these Parliamentary Inquiries and actually launch a Royal Commission because they get more work done and more results than a fucking PI[/QUOTE] This is why I use stuff like ozgameshop, etc. I only buy stuff from EB or JB Hi Fi if I really want it on release or if it's a Collector's edition.

[QUOTE=Novangel;42697596]This is why I use stuff like ozgameshop, etc. I only buy stuff from EB or JB Hi Fi if I really want it on release or if it's a Collector's edition.[/QUOTE] Amazon UK and Zavvi are pretty good too. Especially Zavvi, they offer a flat rate of 1GBP (About $1.70 Australian) shipping on all games, even to Australia.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;42689998]I know someone has to be paid but what?[/QUOTE] Well you see, EA pays people that answer the phones per hour what a 2nd grader in the United states would laugh at as a joke if you handed them the same amount of money for lunch that day. So it only makes sense that they also charge 2 and a half fucking dollars a minute because, well, they just can. EA is greedy. Greeeeedy. Followed closely, if not surpassed, by Blizzard and Activision. Blizzard's the only one that'll actually give you something for the money but they've confused popularity with good business, Activision copy pastes everything and slaps a $60 price tag on it, and EA gouges customers at every chance they get. I couldn't even open up the scoreboard in a game of BF4 on the Xbox without a popup you have to close offering to buy your way into unlocks

[QUOTE=elevate;42697203]I was referring to games in that post. Services are irrelevant here, but if EA charges for services for Australians that they don't charge us, than that just sucks. Unless it's really costing them money to offer services to Australians, then they should cut it out. While this is definitely true, and also "retarded", it still doesn't answer my question of why games should NOT scale with the increasing wages in Australia. Are games already costly enough? I want to learn.[/QUOTE] We're getting the same product, our dollars are equal in value, import costs are next to nothing in this day and age, especially for digital products. High minimum wage means our country has good labor laws and a good enough economy to support people getting more money, we earn that extra money through an improved economy and through less cash getting siphoned off by the executive bastards at the top of the ladder. Americans wonder why there's such a huge wealth gap between the lower class and the upper class, but you just have to look at basic shit like the minimum wage to see why! In my honest opinion, the american minimum wage is disgusting, people work day in and day out at shit jobs just to pay rent and buy food, that's terrible, you're a first world country for fucks sake, someone working full time should be making enough to support themselves and be making significant savings over time. If the wage wasn't as high as it is in Australia, I wouldn't be capable of living out of home and studying full time at uni, I'd be stuck dragging my parents down or I'd be working full time and getting nowhere. If you pay 40 dollars for a game and I pay 80 dollars for a game, where do you think that money is going? It's most likely going straight into the pockets of the CEOs and executives of EA etc. We don't pay (significantly) more for food or goods or services than you do in america, high minimum wage or not, so why should we pay so much more for a game? It doesn't make sense at all.

[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;42697910] In my honest opinion, the american minimum wage is disgusting, people work day in and day out at shit jobs just to pay rent and buy food, that's terrible, you're a first world country for fucks sake, someone working full time should be making enough to support themselves and be making significant savings over time. If the wage wasn't as high as it is in Australia, I wouldn't be capable of living out of home and studying full time at uni, I'd be stuck dragging my parents down or I'd be working full time and getting nowhere.[/QUOTE] Do you know what a period is.

Does it fucking matter at all?

[QUOTE=TheTalon;42697771]Well you see, EA pays people that answer the phones per hour what a 2nd grader in the United states would laugh at as a joke if you handed them the same amount of money for lunch that day. So it only makes sense that they also charge 2 and a half fucking dollars a minute because, well, they just can. EA is greedy. Greeeeedy. Followed closely, if not surpassed, by Blizzard and Activision. Blizzard's the only one that'll actually give you something for the money but they've confused popularity with good business, Activision copy pastes everything and slaps a $60 price tag on it, and EA gouges customers at every chance they get. I couldn't even open up the scoreboard in a game of BF4 on the Xbox without a popup you have to close offering to buy your way into unlocks[/QUOTE] As much as I agree that Blizzard is extremely greedy (Especially with the inclusion of the IRL money store on WoW, and the IRL Currency AH on Diablo III) at least Blizzard support has genuine people in it, as I've almost never had an issue getting information from them.

Why the fuck haven't you guys staged a country wide boycott.

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42699461]Why the fuck haven't you guys staged a country wide boycott.[/QUOTE] Because the majority of consumers are stupid and don't look around, so they probably don't know about the price difference between here and other countries. I mean hell, there's a boatload of people who buy all their games from EB, without price matching them, when they're significantly cheaper at other stores (In some cases, the difference being as much as $30). If people don't even know what the prices are at different local businesses, how could you expect them to know about international prices?

I'm sure if people stood outside of game centers and handed out fliers explaining what other countries pay and why a boycott would benefit them, most clueless moms and younger people would agree. But I'm probably being too optimistic

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42699931]I'm sure if people stood outside of game centers and handed out fliers explaining what other countries pay and why a boycott would benefit them, most clueless moms and younger people would agree. But I'm probably being too optimistic[/QUOTE] I wouldn't put it above clueless moms. They'll listen to just about anything if you make it appealing enough.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42697468]No he's correct, i've used Origin and let me tell you when I went back to steam it was fucking painful, Origin has little to no bugs and it is so fast, my download speed isn't capped on Origin and games load instantly, Steam is a piece of shit program and Valve needs to fix it Also no matter how much steam is good, monoplies suck and I thank EA for doing something about it ...[/QUOTE] I had the exact opposite situation where origin wouldn't break 60KBps while Steam would happily sit on 600KBps for the entire download, also had a bunch of issues with origin not patching games properly (if it even does patch them, some EA games randomly don't hook into the Origin system)

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;42690492][bloogity][/QUOTE] Stop always defending the wrong video game companies, you nimrod.

[QUOTE=Super Muffin;42698128]Do you know what a period is.[/QUOTE] do you know what a question mark is?

[QUOTE=Novangel;42696870]make use of a 100mbp/s download speeds[/QUOTE] Bullshit, I always downloaded ME3 on 200 KB/s and BF3 for 2 fucking days. My connection is fine, by the way. [QUOTE=Novangel;42696870]not hog up your RAM[/QUOTE] Bullshit, it eats the same 100 MB, plus everyone has at the very least 4 GB or RAM so that's not a problem. [QUOTE=Novangel;42696870]a few other things I can't be bothered to search up right now[/QUOTE] You don't have to cause you won't find them. Let me also remind you that Origin doesn't have at least half of Steam's features. Hell, you can't even gift games or change that ugly interface.

[QUOTE=ironman17;42689837][URL="http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/f/f7/Sniper_jeers02.wav"]That's some shonky business right there.[/URL] Also why the hell does Australia get shafted so much? What possible reason could make the so-called Australia Tax even remotely a thing that has any right to exist?[/QUOTE] [editline]31st October 2013[/editline] Wtf my post is missing. [editline]31st October 2013[/editline] I said that their high minimum wage is the bullshit excuse most companies use.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42697468]No he's correct, i've used Origin and let me tell you when I went back to steam it was fucking painful, Origin has little to no bugs and it is so fast, my download speed isn't capped on Origin and games load instantly, Steam is a piece of shit program and Valve needs to fix it[/quote] People complaining about steam being buggy for them, the only problem I never have with the service is the TF2 servers won't populate effectively, but that could just be my internet provider being a cock.

[QUOTE]iirc the biggest reason behind the high prices of australian games is the higher standard of living. isn't minimum wage like 15 bucks in australia?[/QUOTE] who started saying this bullshit? I bet it was some butt devastated neocon who had to come up with an excuse as to how Australia can have the cool laws and government policies we don't and not have financial ruin