• Israel to ask U.S. for $20billion extra in military aid because of Middle East turmoil
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[QUOTE=Silent-Boble;28523808]That's only because the US has to stick their nose everywhere.[/quote] What has that got to do with the worth, or lack thereof, of Israeli military technology contributions? [quote]and guess what, the US will give Israel 20 billion dollars, and all of you just mad.[/QUOTE]Yes, congratulations on securing more funding for bombing civilians.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;28523830] Yes, congratulations on securing more funding for bombing civilians.[/QUOTE] Not like we weren't going to do the same thing with the cash anyways. American eagle crying in front of a flag.
[QUOTE=a203xi;28523871]Not like we weren't going to do the same thing with the cash anyways. American eagle crying in front of a flag.[/QUOTE] you got on something
[QUOTE=BlackCockDan;28523475]How dare you compare Israel to Nazi Germany? You clearly don't know jack shit about the situation over here, and trust me I got my intel from the inside (yes, the army-2 of my brothers been to Gaza) We're gassing people to death? Give me a break, we don't kill people in intention to wipe them off this world, it's their fault that most of them are idiots who support the extremists (hamas dah ) which leads to endless fighting. It's amazing how all of you are honestly fooled by them, how they live in poverty, how it's all messed up out there, well it's all fucking bullcrap since Israel sends about 100 trucks (a day I think) inside Gaza with tons of supplies but not many know that since it's not on the news (which is your main resource of info, that's why you dunno shit that's goin on) P.S: Medication on the Marmara "aid" shit? All of the medications had expired dates lol (Relative of mine in the army was on the marmara.)[/QUOTE] Got a source for any of this? I have to admit, when I ran story in Palestine for my local newspaper, mind you when I still supported Israel, the conditions were a lot less rosy then you seem to portray. I didn't see 100 Israeli Lorries filled with supplies. I did, however, see plenty of Tanks and APC's at one of the 90 checkpoints surrounding the area of Gaza. You know the checkpoints where IDF soldiers humiliate people in the open for no reason while holding up traffic of people who have to go to work? If you want to play primary sources, you're going to have to explain why I saw different shit then your brothers.
[img]http://i54.tinypic.com/acbus6.jpg[/img] [editline]10th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=The LocalFlavor;28524145]Got a source for any of this? I have to admit, when I ran story in Palestine for my local newspaper, mind you when I still supported Israel, the conditions were a lot less rosy then you seem to portray. I didn't see 100 Israeli Lorries filled with supplies. I did, however, see plenty of Tanks and APC's at one of the 90 checkpoints surrounding the area of Gaza. You know the checkpoints where IDF soldiers humiliate people in the open for no reason while holding up traffic of people who have to go to work? If you want to play primary sources, you're going to have to explain why I saw different shit then your brothers.[/QUOTE] Because your source is a newspaper rather then real life experience.
[QUOTE=Silent-Boble;28523332]Israelies are basically russians. 65% of Israels population are russians.[/quote] Got an [quote]Also in Israel, it was the first research about the THC.[/quote] That would be various research agencies, not Israel. And if you want to pin a widespread government research into THC, that would be South Korea. [quote]The founders of Israel first came from Russia, and then from europe, and then from around africa.[/quote] Polish and German, actually. You cannot compare tyrants to a government |: They are doing way worse things.[/quote] We of reality [quote]Also, see: [url]http://www.red-alerts.com/islamic-expansionism/gaza-barbarians-live-like-kings-on-your-tax-dollars/[/url][/quote] "The Jew hating communists that infest the American political scene" hahaha, I stopped there. This bullshit instantly discredits your source. Yeah, Ok. I got a better source for you. [url]http://www.israel-palestinenews.org/2011/01/wikileaks-israel-aimed-to-keep-gaza.html[/url] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4g1-HTJYEk[/media] [quote]more poverty [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq4_Nva4G8E&feature=related[/media][/QUOTE] Taking shots of supermarkets in higher end districts does not prove that everything is just fucking peachy and fine in Gaza totally no [url]http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3387356,00.html[/url] ne of this shit oops, how'd that rather incriminating link get in there I also like how Israel came out saying the hunger in Gaza isn't bad at all, citing that with saying it isn't [I]as bad as Africa[/I] [editline]10th March 2011[/editline] Saying you are one step above a third world nation doesn't make you fine, it makes you slightly less shitty.
I would support Israel if they drop those aid money over Gaza. Imagine, 20 billion dollars raining down from IDF planes. A great way to confuse the people!
[QUOTE=The LocalFlavor;28524178] totally no [url]http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3387356,00.html[/url] ne of this shit oops, how'd that rather incriminating link get in there I also like how Israel came out saying the hunger in Gaza isn't bad at all, citing that with saying it isn't [I]as bad as Africa[/I] [editline]10th March 2011[/editline] Saying you are one step above a third world nation doesn't make you fine, it makes you slightly less shitty.[/QUOTE] homage for satan. we are satanists and we gonna rule the world. I am stating my opinions that the world is retarded and can't think different than "israel is bad" that human shield thing, the best way to stop anyone. US soldiers didn't use this in Iraq? Russian soldiers didn't use this in Chechnya? The only way to stop a minor enemy from throwing rocks at your equipment is by using someone from them. I am not a troll, I am satanist and I support the death of all arabs and muslims. And that's as political as it can get, not racist. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Extreme xenophobia and racism or trolling" - Starpluck))[/highlight] [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Extended; alt of permabanned user" - Starpluck))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Silent-Boble;28524240]homage for satan. we are satanists and we gonna rule the world. I am stating my opinions that the world is retarded and can't think different than "israel is bad" that human shield thing, the best way to stop anyone. US soldiers didn't use this in Iraq? Russian soldiers didn't use this in Chechnya? The only way to stop a minor enemy from throwing rocks at your equipment is by using someone from them. I am not a troll, I am satanist and I support the death of all arabs and muslims. And that's as political as it can get, not racist.[/QUOTE] Yeah you're a troll A terrible one at that. [editline]10th March 2011[/editline] You're like a pull toy that fell into a vat of acid and some guy is calling toysrus costumer service wondering why his acidic pulltoy is preaching satanism.
Go study satanism. I am not trying to troll anyone.
[QUOTE=Silent-Boble;28524270]Go study satanism. I am not trying to troll anyone.[/QUOTE] Sure [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X13Kb_DktHg[/media] Satanism is kinda gay.
[QUOTE=The LocalFlavor;28524276]Sure [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X13Kb_DktHg[/media] Satanism is kinda gay.[/QUOTE] missed what satanism is. southpark is made by christians |:
[QUOTE=The LocalFlavor;28524145]Got a source for any of this? I have to admit, when I ran story in Palestine for my local newspaper, mind you when I still supported Israel, the conditions were a lot less rosy then you seem to portray. I didn't see 100 Israeli Lorries filled with supplies. I did, however, see plenty of Tanks and APC's at one of the 90 checkpoints surrounding the area of Gaza. You know the checkpoints where IDF soldiers humiliate people in the open for no reason while holding up traffic of people who have to go to work? If you want to play primary sources, you're going to have to explain why I saw different shit then your brothers.[/QUOTE] Ugh, fine. I'll make a point so you don't have to argue with this guy. There are plenty of supplies that go in there. I'm sure you didn't see them because they aren't in a constant stream. They also provide a huge amount of their power, access to Israeli hospitals and other things they do for them. The checkpoints are there due to the huge amount of suicide bombers, not for no reason. They hold people up but that's just part of the way a checkpoint works. They may be negligent in how much effort they put into it but fuck it, not like it's their duty to make their life easy when there's every likelihood one of them will explode.
[QUOTE=Silent-Boble;28524270]Go study satanism. I am not trying to troll anyone.[/QUOTE] Yes, yes you are.
I really hate to ban pro-Israelis as naturally people will falsely accuse my moderation of being politically motivated, but this guy was pushing it.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;28524419]I really hate to ban pro-Israelis as naturally people wil falsely accuse my moderation of being politicly motivated, but this guy was pushing it.[/QUOTE] He was running around yelling "hail satan".
[QUOTE=Silent-Boble;28523332]Israelies are basically russians. 65% of Israels population are russians.[/QUOTE] Maybe where you live, but that's far from the truth in the rest of Israel - [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnic_divisions#Statistics[/url] 20% of all Jews in Israel are of Russian heritage. There are also Russians who aren't Jews but their number here is much smaller.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;28524337]Ugh, fine. I'll make a point so you don't have to argue with this guy. There are plenty of supplies that go in there. I'm sure you didn't see them because they aren't in a constant stream. They also provide a huge amount of their power, access to Israeli hospitals and other things they do for them.[/quote] Granted Israel doesn't abandon outright Gaza, but the amount of human rights abuse inside Gaza perpetrated by Israel, there NEEDS to be accountability. [quote]The checkpoints are there due to the huge amount of suicide bombers, not for no reason. They hold people up but that's just part of the way a checkpoint works. They may be negligent in how much effort they put into it but fuck it, not like it's their duty to make their life easy when there's every likelihood one of them will explode.[/QUOTE] So making a teenager strip down to his underwear in front of many people and laughing about it is justified?
[QUOTE=Starpluck;28524419]I really hate to ban pro-Israelis as naturally people wil falsely accuse my moderation of being politicly motivated, but this guy was pushing it.[/QUOTE] Chill, even a normal israeli himself would see that this guy is fucking lunatic. Kind of a relief that he's gone now, but for how long? Also you shouldn't be afraid to ban people with the second thought of being accused of racist or politically motivated, you're a moderator, you keep the shit at bay
[QUOTE=The LocalFlavor;28524145]Got a source for any of this? I have to admit, when I ran story in Palestine for my local newspaper, mind you when I still supported Israel, the conditions were a lot less rosy then you seem to portray. I didn't see 100 Israeli Lorries filled with supplies. I did, however, see plenty of Tanks and APC's at one of the 90 checkpoints surrounding the area of Gaza. You know the checkpoints where IDF soldiers humiliate people in the open for no reason while holding up traffic of people who have to go to work? If you want to play primary sources, you're going to have to explain why I saw different shit then your brothers.[/QUOTE] Local newspaper < Real life facts lol , anyway, too tired to debate though comments here are pretty funny
[QUOTE=The LocalFlavor;28524467] So making a teenager strip down to his underwear in front of many people and laughing about it is justified?[/QUOTE] Of course, because EVERY SINGLE TEENAGER that passes through these checkpoints gets stripped completley naked and gets laughed at.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;28524945]Of course, because EVERY SINGLE TEENAGER that passes through these checkpoints gets stripped completley naked and gets laughed at.[/QUOTE] Just because not EVERY Jew was gassed makes it ok. See what I did there?
[QUOTE=Miskav;28525118]Just because not EVERY Jew was gassed makes it ok. See what I did there?[/QUOTE] No, I actually didn't. You did not refer to my point nor did you counter it with a rational argument. You're not funny. Either reply with something that isn't "ironic" and "edgy" or get out.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;28525145]No, I actually didn't. You did not refer to my point nor did you counter it with a rational argument. You're not funny. Either reply with something that isn't "ironic" and "edgy" or get out.[/QUOTE] Your claim that something is okay just because not every single person fitting the description gets the treatment makes mine equally valid. Think before you post.
Yeah but there's a difference between the two. One is done to make sure someone isn't hiding a bomb or something, and is rarely done at all, while one was done in order to kill and was done many many times. You have to look at the reason why each thing is done: Stripping down people who are suspected of being suicide bombers is done in order to protect others, while gassing people is done just to kill people.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;28524945]Of course, because EVERY SINGLE TEENAGER that passes through these checkpoints gets stripped completley naked and gets laughed at.[/QUOTE] The fact that this happens. The fact that Israeli's are ok with this and defend it. Is a problem. This is one of MANY problems Palestinians go through.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;28525182]Yeah but there's a difference between the two. One is done to make sure someone isn't hiding a bomb or something, and is rarely done at all, while one was done in order to kill and was done many many times. You have to look at the reason why each thing is done: Stripping down people who are suspected of being suicide bombers is done in order to protect others, while gassing people is done just to kill people.[/QUOTE] One was done under the false assumption that Jews were inferior The Other is done because of the population you're oppressing had enough. I can't see a lesser evil in there.
[QUOTE=Miskav;28525201]One was done under the false assumption that Jews were inferior The Other is done because of the population you're oppressing had enough. I can't see a lesser evil in there.[/QUOTE] I don't understand what do you mean by "because of the population you're oppressing had enough"?
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;28525182]Yeah but there's a difference between the two. One is done to make sure someone isn't hiding a bomb or something, and is rarely done at all, while one was done in order to kill and was done many many times. You have to look at the reason why each thing is done: Stripping down people who are suspected of being suicide bombers is done in order to protect others, while gassing people is done just to kill people.[/QUOTE] I'm assuming the purposely embarrassing him part is also part of the bomb checking? GOTTA MAKE SURE HE'S NOT HIDING A BOMB IN HIS PRIDE [editline]10th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=BurnEmDown;28525212]I don't understand what do you mean by "because of the population you're oppressing had enough"?[/QUOTE] Nothing, burnemdown, Palestine is perfect. Go back to bed.
[QUOTE=The LocalFlavor;28525214]I'm assuming the purposely embarrassing him part is also part of the bomb checking? GOTTA MAKE SURE HE'S NOT HIDING A BOMB IN HIS PRIDE [editline]10th March 2011[/editline] Nothing, burnemdown, Palestine is perfect. Go back to bed.[/QUOTE] I've never heard of security guards purposely embarrassing people in such a way, can you prove your claim?
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