• Target Officially Rejects Assault Weapons in Its Stores
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[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;45276738]Why does everyone think the guy has a cat? Because of the aisle he's in? That's the baby isle. Those are baby toys. There is even a sign about car seat sizes. I used to work at Target.[/QUOTE] This makes it even funnier then. Imagine being a new mom and turning into an aisle to pick up diapers only to see a crowd of AR-15 toting neckbeards loitering around
Why would you even need a gun there anyway?
[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;45276969]Why would you even need a gun there anyway?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=SigmaLambda;45275908] gonna stand up to that goddamn liberal obama and that bitch ex wife by waving my gun around in front of a bunch of [del]fry cooks at a burger king[/del] suburban shoppers and employees[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sokrates;45274770]Wait, wait, wait... WAIT. So, normally, people in america can walk into a store with [B]a fucking assault rifle[/B]? wtf america get your shit together[/QUOTE] You lose all credibility in your argument if you label a rifle an "assault rifle". It's a dumb buzz word used by people with zero experience with weapons. The civilian AR-15 [I][B]rifle[/B][/I] is either select fire single shot or semi-automatic (depending on where you live.) Or if you have the proper federal and state licenses, semi-automatic/automatic. And despite popular belief, the "AR" in AR-15 does not stand for "assault rifle", it stands for the company that sells it "Armalite Rifle". Just like the AK in AK-47 stands for "Avtomat Kalashnikova" which was designed by Mikhail Kalashnikov.
gun culture in the US is a massive joke to begin with if this law had to come into effect
[QUOTE=hexpunK;45276932]Ace-pro argument man. Totally ruined him by arguing nothing but semantics the entire time. Tip: Nobody but a small group of you actually give a fuck about that shit. "Assault weapons" might have been a made-up classification, but it's stuck now and is largely used to describe weapons decked out in such a way to make them more comfortable (and by extension more effective) to use. Yeah it was a pretty damn arbitrary definition, probably shouldn't have been defined as it was really. But that doesn't matter now, the term is a term, it will be used either way.[/QUOTE] If there were a substantial lobby seeking to outlaw Nintendos and referred to every game console as a 'nintendo' and people telling me I need to get rid of my PS3 and gaming PC because they're both nintendos I'd probably be justifiably pedantic about that too. It stops being just semantics when there are legal and political repercussions to people misusing terms with well-established meanings.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;45277189]gun culture in the US is a massive joke to begin with if this law had to come into effect[/QUOTE] Did you even read the article? It's Target changing their policy to not allow open carry / concealed carry weapons into their stores. It's a company policy change, not a law change.
Open carry is not a good idea. You shouldn't be open-carrying [I]any[/I] weapon, regardless of whether it's a knife, a gun, a strung bow, etc. Making people nervous for no good reason and attracting bad press against gun owners and the entire category of semi-auto rifles.
I work at Target and also live I Alabama. A lot of people here open carry handguns but usually there holstered correctly. I really don't care as long as there holstered.
[QUOTE=Telepethi;45275284]God damn it, these retarded fucking open carry activists are ruining everything. Don't open carry a rifle you fucking idiots. Open carry a goddamn pistol. The point of open carry is [i]self defense[/i] you're not gonna whip up a fucking AR-15 if you're getting mugged to stop it the ONLY thing you're doing is pissing off everything like neckbeard autists.[/QUOTE] But the naked cavemen in Rust :v:
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;45277480]Open carry is not a good idea. You shouldn't be open-carrying [I]any[/I] weapon, regardless of whether it's a knife, a gun, a strung bow, etc. Making people nervous for no good reason and attracting bad press against gun owners and the entire category of semi-auto rifles.[/QUOTE] Open carry is fine if done correctly. Scrubs with rifles slung around them is not correctly.
[QUOTE=.FLAP.JACK.DAN.;45274837]I find it hilarious how these pro-gun activists are continuing to do open carry protests in big name stores even though all it is doing is making more and more big name stores reject people from carrying guns into their stores.[/QUOTE] Which is what has some groups thinking this might be being done by antis. [editline]2nd July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=arthuro12;45276625]Who the fuck came up with naming ordinary handguns, rifles and carbines.. assault weapons?[/QUOTE] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#History_of_terminology]A California politician, of course.[/url]
There's absolutely no reason to carry a rifle into a store unless you plan on using it in the store for some reason. Like, you can bring it into a gun store to sell it/get it repaired/get tips/etc. But even then, you would have a case or bag for it. The only legitimate reason to openly carry a rifle is if you're on your way to go hunting or to an outdoor range where it would be impractical to have a case for some specific reason. If you feel the need to carry a firearm into a store, having a rifle would be the absolute worst way to defend yourself.
Completely misread the fucking article shit, but good on target open carry is ridiculous
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;45276571]thanks for informing me that i need to know what kind of round an m249 chambers to say that waving one at a class of schoolchildren on a field trip to the zoo is wrong. i'll crack open the 'ol wikipedia[/QUOTE] I think it's less of an issue that you don't know the information,and more that you choose to remain ignorant on the subject and use that ignorance as a reasoning for your position. [editline]2nd July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=hexpunK;45276681]But, like, it's the States. You've probably driven to the range, driven to your campsite, or driven to those remote-ass woods somewhere no doubt. So just, like, I dunno, leave your fucking weapons in the car? You ain't getting jumped by a grizzly in the general store. Unless it's staffed by bears or something, but that raises more questions really.[/QUOTE] Leaving your weapon unenclosed and in plain sight is considered open-carry in most situations.
Open carry an RPG
[QUOTE=Map in a box;45278197]Open carry an RPG[/QUOTE] "HEY MISTER WHATS THAT ON YOUR BACK?" "FF7, only the greatest RPG of all time"
[QUOTE=Dr.HAXXXX;45275295]I like guns as much as the next american, but its pretty ridiculous to think you need to be walking around with anything bigger than a handgun.[/QUOTE] This is considered "sane" for an American by other Americans but in any other Western country you'd sounds like a redneck. America has a shit reputation because of your gun laws, the fact you can open carry (or even concealed (?)) is really really weird. Its half the reason that 90% of people I meet will never visit America, the other half being the health system.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;45275324] generally most people who own guns will ask if it's okay they bring their side arm in or the like.[/QUOTE] What no Generally most people who own guns will concealed carry it and not tell anyone about it because it's a 'concealed carry' not 'show it off to everyone and their mom carry' [editline]2nd July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=mokkan;45278232]This is considered "sane" for an American by other Americans but in any other Western country you'd sounds like a redneck. America has a shit reputation because of your gun laws, the fact you can open carry (or even concealed (?)) is really really weird. Its half the reason that 90% of people I meet will never visit America, the other half being the health system.[/QUOTE] We can do without your negative and arrogant attitude. We don't really care if our self defense laws make it so some of you don't want to visit, because you're small-minded and panic easily apparently. If someone has a license to conceal carry a firearm for self defense they have demonstrated the ability to do so safely. You're safer around people with said license than not. As far as how weird it is, it's not that weird. What's weird is having to be 18 to buy a kitchen utensil set because it has knives in them, or how horribly high the UK's violent crime rate is per capita compared to ours.
Fucking idiot "open carry" owners giving legitimate gun owners a bad name...
[QUOTE=mokkan;45278232]Its half the reason that 90% of people I meet will never visit America, the other half being the health system.[/QUOTE] even including gang violence you are 38% more likely to die in a car crash in the UK than be shot in America but okay
[QUOTE=mokkan;45278232]This is considered "sane" for an American by other Americans but in any other Western country you'd sounds like a redneck. America has a shit reputation because of your gun laws, the fact you can open carry (or even concealed (?)) is really really weird. Its half the reason that 90% of people I meet will never visit America, the other half being the health system.[/QUOTE] No, this isn't considered sane by most Americans. I am a strong supporter of gun rights but I think people who do shit like this are morons. All they are accomplishing is making us look like assholes.
People have trouble understanding that the Second Amendment is a restriction applied to Congress. Private companies can dictate gun policy on their private property. It's almost as bad as people who scream that you're trampling their First Amendment rights when you point out that their "free speech" is bigoted. Once again, the First Amendment is a restriction applied to Congress.
I really wish these retarded gun activists wouldn't use retail stores as a political soapbox, it's really not the time or place for it (and this goes for all causes). It's private property, first and second amendments do not apply and you'd think some of the constitution worshippers would understand this. I would like to state that I otherwise fully approve of gun ownership (as anyone who has seen me in these threads no doubt knows by now) [QUOTE=mokkan;45278232]America has a shit reputation because of your gun laws, the fact you can open carry (or even concealed (?)) is really really weird. Its half the reason that 90% of people I meet will never visit America, the other half being the health system.[/QUOTE] I spend a lot of time in northen New York which has a high rate of gun ownership (lots of military and hunters) and I have never once felt unsafe. And the gun laws are not the cause of America's "insanity", that's largely due to poor education (by Western standards) and horrifically biased media. If you think guns are the cause of America's woes you have no idea what you're talking about.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;45275504] semi-auto PKM[/QUOTE] Absolutely disgusting
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45279582]And unless they use the proper signage, their "weapons ban" will be completely unenforceable. Most states require a very specific sign, with law/ordinance number on it. I highly doubt that target will take the time to actually implement the proper signage in all 50 states, especially with such wild variations in signage. That being said, i'm completely against people OC'ing on private property to "prove a point". These guys are massive douches.[/QUOTE] Signage or not its pretty easy to spot someone with a rifle strapped to their back and ask them to leave. If anything they'd have trouble not being able to enforce it. Open carry protestors seem to move in wolfpacks aiming iphones everywhere to record violations of their sacred rights and generally make themselves very obviously known.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;45277480]Open carry is not a good idea. You shouldn't be open-carrying [I]any[/I] weapon, regardless of whether it's a knife, a gun, a strung bow, etc. Making people nervous for no good reason and attracting bad press against gun owners and the entire category of semi-auto rifles.[/QUOTE]The whole point of carrying is for self-defense, so having a gun in plain view on your hip is basically saying, "please shoot me first, I will cause you all sorts of problems if you don't," to anyone who's planning some nefarious shit. I don't know why anyone does it, you're defeating the whole purpose of carrying it in the first place. :l [QUOTE=Moustacheman;45279912]Absolutely disgusting[/QUOTE]I saw one for sale online once, you could literally buy a .50 BMG rifle and a decent amount of ammo for it too at the price it was going for. I just shook my head and went back to looking for a Garand.
[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;45276969]Why would you even need a gun there anyway?[/QUOTE] Well in my particular case the local Target is in a bad side of town so I can see why people would prefer being able to defend themselves should the need arise. Pretty much the same reason anyone would concealed carry anywhere else. Don't get me wrong, these open carry "protesters" are idiots and I'd love to see them shut up, but don't punish responsible gun owners to do it.
What do people think they're proving when they open carry, it doesn't really serve any purpose than to draw attention to you in the street.
[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;45275884]I don't see how "please don't walk around in our store carrying a gun" is an unreasonable request[/QUOTE] actually target can and does have the right to kick them out of the store, open carry < private property
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