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[QUOTE=srobins;49948549]Even though popular culture seems to equate Islamophobia with flat out racism, I don't think it's racist. Super ignorant, but not really racist. Islam does have a lot of tenets and beliefs that are in stark contrast to Western culture, so he's not even entirely wrong there. The ideology itself isn't very Western from what I've seen.[/QUOTE] You'd do well to inform yourself on the core tenants and beliefs of it that aren't held by extremists because it's not what you expect. Extremist christians are just as full of vile hatred as the extremists in islam.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49948553]Extremist christians are just as full of vile hatred as the extremists in islam.[/QUOTE] See, here's the thing though. Violent christian extremists are almost stastically non-existant everywhere except Africa. People are murdered every day because of the beliefs of Radicals practicing Islam. It's not the majority of peaceful people that concerns me, it's the very deadly minority that is a very real threat to not only other groups, but to that peaceful majority as well. Also the very oppressive tendencies of even that "peaceful majority" are cause for concern.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49948553]You'd do well to inform yourself on the core tenants and beliefs of it that aren't held by extremists because it's not what you expect. Extremist christians are just as full of vile hatred as the extremists in islam.[/QUOTE] Yea but the number of them is incredibly lower. ISIS is like an army of Westboro Baptist Church members. And yet, hundreds, possible thousands (I'm aiming low here) more people die from extremist Islam than extremist Christianity.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;49948587]reminder that far right sovereign citizens are america's number 1 terror threat (as rated by the fbi)[/QUOTE] Due to proximity? if 99% of Sovereign citizens lived in the third world no one here would take them seriously.

[QUOTE=wystan;49948608]Yea but the number of them is incredibly lower. ISIS is like an army of Westboro Baptist Church members. And yet, hundreds, possible thousands (I'm aiming low here) more people die from extremist Islam than extremist Christianity.[/QUOTE] When the number of terrorist attacks in the US history are more populated by christian extremists than islamists, you might want to reconsider that reality. And how many of those die in the US to those specific people? Not a statistically significant number, and you shouldn't make decisions on things that aren't statistically significant.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49948634]When the number of terrorist attacks in the US history are more populated by christian extremists than islamists, you might want to reconsider that reality. And how many of those die in the US to those specific people? Not a statistically significant number, and you shouldn't make decisions on things that aren't statistically significant.[/QUOTE] I wasn't confining my statement to just the US, globally, extremist Islam is more frequent and kills more people.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49948634]When the number of terrorist attacks in the US history are more populated by christian extremists than islamists, you might want to reconsider that reality. And how many of those die in the US to those specific people? Not a statistically significant number, and you shouldn't make decisions on things that aren't statistically significant.[/QUOTE] Muslims make up 1% of our population, compared to 62% identifying as christian. It makes sense that you'd see more christian extremists than Islamic extremists, But I highly doubt the casualty count is even close to proportional to those percentages.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49948553]You'd do well to inform yourself on the core tenants and beliefs of it that aren't held by extremists because it's not what you expect. Extremist christians are just as full of vile hatred as the extremists in islam.[/QUOTE] I understand that most Muslims, especially living in Western civilization, are moderate and selective with how they practice their belief, just like Christians.. But there's still quite a bit of backwards content in the Quran that isn't in line with how Western civilization operates. Women's rights and domestic violence is a simple example. [editline]17th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=RichyZ;49948587]and the same goes for radical islamists being mostly exclusive to the middle east and north africa reminder that far right sovereign citizens are america's number 1 terror threat (as rated by the fbi)[/QUOTE] To be fair that sounds a little ridiculous on the FBI's part. The last soverign citizen incident I can think of was the Oregon ranchers and that barely counts as it is.

[QUOTE=srobins;49948549]Even though popular culture seems to equate Islamophobia with flat out racism, I don't think it's racist. Super ignorant, but not really racist. Islam does have a lot of tenets and beliefs that are in stark contrast to Western culture, so he's not even entirely wrong there. The ideology itself isn't very Western from what I've seen.[/QUOTE] Regardless, he's built a whole campaign on the staples of "Make America great again, keep Mexicans out, keep Muslims out." It's kind of obvious how that sounds and he knows it. [editline]17th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=srobins;49948895]I understand that most Muslims, especially living in Western civilization, are moderate and selective with how they practice their belief, just like Christians.. But there's still quite a bit of backwards content in the Quran that isn't in line with how Western civilization operates. Women's rights and domestic violence is a simple example.[/QUOTE] The Bible isn't exactly squeaky clean on issues like women's rights and gay rights either. To put it like you did, it's backwards content that isn't in line with how western civilisation operates.

[QUOTE=Sableye;49948354]its not PC to treat fellow human beings as human beings instead of consistently claim they are scum and garbage[/QUOTE] What I was trying to convey was it's not unheard of for candidates pretend to be closet racists and use PC as an excuse for the closet part, or maybe they are actually racists, who knows. My point being, Trump is far from the first person to pander towards the racist demographic, all that's different is he doesn't mask it, so the general public actually noticed the tactic. [editline]17th March 2016[/editline] Islam has nothing to do with the current state of the middle east; large portions of the populations in that region, for several reasons, holds beliefs that the western world would--by in large--consider backwards. The same would be true if Christianity or Hinduism or any other religion (or no religion) was the primary religion of the region. Islam is simply the most convenient justification/scapegoat.