A Series of Isolated Incidents - Baltimore Cops Kill Black Man; Spine 'Virtually' Severed
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[QUOTE=agentfazexx;47566103]Don't run from the police, or commit felonies for that matter. Stop sympathizing.[/QUOTE]
Lol you seem pretty convinced this guy is guilty and deserved what he got despite no trial taking place. Not even a reason why the police arrested him lmao.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;47566277]Lol you seem pretty convinced this guy is guilty and deserved what he got despite no trial taking place. Not even a reason why the police arrested him lmao.[/QUOTE]
He still ran.
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;47563209]WHY do titles of EXTREME ARTICLES have to CONSTANTLY CAPITALIZE WORDS, is it meant to MAKE IT MORE HARD HITTING and SCARY?[/QUOTE]
I paid more attention to your comment that the others.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;47566326]He still ran.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't excuse the possibility of police beating the living fuck out of him nor does it make his death justified and not the fault of the Officers.
[del]I'd also probably run if some polis officer was like STOP RIGHT THERE but that's just me[/del]
[QUOTE=willtheoct;47563264]
Why does it matter what race the victim was? That shouldn't be an important detail.
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I keep seeing people post this in threads like this and I think it's very ignorant. Considering recent events and massive racial tension that has been bringing these stories to attention and shedding light on them, race is not an unimportant detail. The way you are wording it almost makes it seem as if you want any mention of race to be entirely removed from the article.
Am I the only one who thinks that this guys spine could have been damaged by the tackle, but a sharp pressure, like one someone would suffer from sitting in the back of a van going over a pothole, could have dealt the proverbial "final blow" to his spinal chord? Seems like the most logical explanation without assuming the cops are racist people who want to beat black people.
[QUOTE=arbio22;47567419]I keep seeing people post this in threads like this and I think it's very ignorant. Considering recent events and massive racial tension that has been bringing these stories to attention and shedding light on them, race is not an unimportant detail. The way you are wording it almost makes it seem as if you want any mention of race to be entirely removed from the article.[/QUOTE]
Because attributing it to a "race issue" before all evidence is out throws out any rational discussion on the topic. Whereas people would normally use devices like Hanlon's razor to come to a rational conclusion, you're amplifying a detail which encourages people to throw rational thought out of the window.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;47566326]He still ran.[/QUOTE]
Being terrified and/or running, regardless of what he did or did not do, should not be a death sentence.
[QUOTE=Dalndox;47568565]Being terrified and/or running, regardless of what he did or did not do, should not be a death sentence.[/QUOTE]
Not saying it's deserving of it. But if you run from the police and get hurt or something from being tackled, it's your own fault. If you die because you get tackled wrong, well that ain't the cops fault. You ran.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;47563054]Lovely news from where I live.[/QUOTE]
Aye. It's even getting difficult to take out the trash at night.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47567824]Because attributing it to a "race issue" before all evidence is out throws out any rational discussion on the topic.[/QUOTE]
Discussing race relations in regards to police treatment of minorities is not at all irrational or unjustified, especially in the wake of the Ferguson report, which proved, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that nearly the entire police department was specifically and maliciously targeting minorities for profit. Given that the narrative in Ferguson prior to this report (and even prior to the Brown shooting) was much the same as it is in nearly every major city, I think that ignoring the possibility of systemic racism (especially in cases where minorities are badly injured or killed by officers under suspicious circumstances) is deeply irresponsible at best.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;47564057]I know he didn't run because he "feared for his life", that excuse is in the same category as "god made me do it".[/QUOTE]
I dunno dogg, if the Baltimore PD tried to stop me on the street I might fear for my life - [URL=http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-freddie-gray-20150419-story.html#page=1]they did literally kill this one guy I read about.[/URL]
I think people tend to forget that if your law enforcement has the reputation of killing people at the slightest provocation, it can be hard not to get scared and run. After all, you might get killed anyway just because.
[QUOTE=Dalndox;47568812]I think people tend to forget that if your law enforcement has the reputation of killing people at the slightest provocation, it can be hard not to get scared and run. After all, you might get killed anyway just because.[/QUOTE]
Baltimore City cops don't have that reputation. They're just assholes. Doesn't mean you should run though.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;47568716]Discussing race relations in regards to police treatment of minorities is not at all irrational or unjustified, especially in the wake of the Ferguson report, which proved, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that nearly the entire police department was specifically and maliciously targeting minorities for profit. Given that the narrative in Ferguson prior to this report (and even prior to the Brown shooting) was much the same as it is in nearly every major city, I think that ignoring the possibility of systemic racism (especially in cases where minorities are badly injured or killed by officers under suspicious circumstances) is deeply irresponsible at best.[/QUOTE]
I agree. I never said the discussions shouldn't happen. But at the same time, there is a difference between discussing race relations and attributing something to race without any facts to justify it. There is a difference between saying something is a possibility, and accusing someone of something with no evidence. Talks about race relations should absolutely happen, but we shouldn't jump the gun and say a situation is racially motivated if it hasn't been proven. That leads to ruining someone's life over false allegations.
[url]http://www.seattlepi.com/news/crime/article/Latest-on-Baltimore-police-custody-death-Group-6219548.php[/url]
Why is it that every time a black person dies around white people, this happens? The reverse of this would never happen. And if it did, they would all be racist
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;47568575]Not saying it's deserving of it. But if you run from the police and get hurt or something from being tackled, it's your own fault. If you die because you get tackled wrong, well that ain't the cops fault. You ran.[/QUOTE]
Well, what point are you trying to make by saying that it's his fault his spine broke if it isn't that he doesn't deserve empathy for his broken spine?
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;47587087][url]http://www.seattlepi.com/news/crime/article/Latest-on-Baltimore-police-custody-death-Group-6219548.php[/url]
Why is it that every time a black person dies around white people, this happens? The reverse of this would never happen. And if it did, they would all be racist[/QUOTE]
They're motivated by systematic injustice. Incidents like these prompt and motivate people to take action to vocalize anger that has built up over a lifetime of unfair treatment. Asking why people don't react the same way when the races are changed completely ignores the social context of the situation and looks intentionally ignorant.
[QUOTE=willtheoct;47563264]Why did you put 'virtually' in quotes?
[B]Why does it matter what race the victim was? That shouldn't be an important detail[/B].
Why is there so much not-shocking bold text in your quotes?
Why are the gory words in that video capitalized, but not "beating"?
[B]I keep seeing these over and over from US news, it's as if you're all trying to create and escalate race/police issues.... Have you considered not doing that?[/B][/QUOTE]
It's apathetic attitudes like this that enables police to get away with this shit. You're literally asking people to ignore that there is a race issue with the police in America.
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