[QUOTE=cdlink14;44343785]Tell me about it, I have an advisor meeting tomorrow and one of my goals I have to complete before meeting her is "to have an interview suit" I've mentioned to the job centre that I need one, and they refuse to give me one unless I get an interview.[/QUOTE]
I have bowel disease, and was unable to attend an appointment one day due to reasons that are pretty obvious. However, because I had missed 2 appointments on a previous claim from the previous year, they kicked me off. They neglect to inform you that you can only miss 2 appointments, even though they say you can have 2 weeks of sickness.
[QUOTE=cdlink14;44343785]Tell me about it, I have an advisor meeting tomorrow and one of my goals I have to complete before meeting her is "to have an interview suit" I've mentioned to the job centre that I need one, and they refuse to give me one unless I get an interview.[/QUOTE]
It makes me laugh that they thing you can just go out and buy a suit on the shite amount that the Jobcentre gives you, yeah go buy a suit instead of paying rent, having electricity or even food!
[QUOTE=Britishboy;44342600]Yeah I think I will. I was going to see about becoming a tank crewman. Plus, if I like it then I can go full time.[/QUOTE]
Cavalry eh.. where abouts you live? not sure whats happened to them post SDSR, but they are still around!
Supposed to be getting their hands on Challenger as well if I hear right,
[QUOTE=Matriax;44343882]Cavalry eh.. where abouts you live? not sure whats happened to them post SDSR, but they are still around!
Supposed to be getting their hands on Challenger as well if I hear right,[/QUOTE]
Mansfield Woodhouse (it's horrible), in Mansfield the Royal Engineers have a reservist centre there.
Get up off your fucking arsed and labour for a living. Your at the bottom of the chain fecking deal with it. High and mighty with your degrees and master degree. Pipe down and face reality.
I don't really have many complaints from when I was receiving JSA. Maybe I just got really lucky with my advisor.
[QUOTE=Boss;44343911]Get up off your fucking arsed and labour for a living. Your at the bottom of the chain fecking deal with it. High and mighty with your degrees and master degree. Pipe down and face reality.[/QUOTE]
Except I don't have any degree's. Heck the only experience I have in the past is one year at college studying basic office and administration then I got a job working on the docks for 2 years. Heck I'd even settle for cleaning out toilets for £8.11 per day (same amount I get on JSA) just to be away from their pathetically harsh system.
I mean did you even read the article? 1,500 people lining up to try and claim one of 40 positions in a job that is quite low on the chain. Working in a supermarket doesn't have much in the way of benefits or progression.
I've always considered these jobs to be the type that provide students a bit of spending money in college/university because the jobs themselves don't offer much in the way of progression or promotion. Not a job that 1,500 job seekers (likely from different levels of education) are lining up with a bit of hope that they'll be able to at least do something other than be stuck on JSA.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;44343869]It makes me laugh that they thing you can just go out and buy a suit on the shite amount that the Jobcentre gives you, yeah go buy a suit instead of paying rent, having electricity or even food![/QUOTE]
You don't really need to pay an arm and a leg to get a suit. I got this striped black suit (and matching pants) for only $40 at an op shop, and it was in fantastic condition. Got a tie for $5 elsewhere, and I scavenged a white collared shirt and black formal shoes from my old school uniform. It's a small investment but it can make a big difference.
Sometimes the only thing that keeps me going at my current job is the thought of someone else having to do this job instead and saving them the drudgery and pain of this job position. That and it keeps me far away from the job centre as possible - seriously fuck that place.
I dunno, I have a job, but there's similar rush here in Ireland if there's somewhere well-known that advertises that they're hiring. The basic strategy here for getting a small job is just print out a shitload of cv's, drop them into shops or wherever will accept them, ring back around a week later and ask if they're hiring. Anywhere with an online recruitment scheme, check it every day or two until a vacancy comes up. Demoralising and time-consuming, but doable.
Admittedly all this is useless if you want a job that pays above minimum wage.
My mom forced me to join that queue, after 10 minutes we both thought "fuck this". Luckily I live in walking distance of that place, some people traveled miles just to see that
[QUOTE=Boss;44343911]Get up off your fucking arsed and labour for a living. Your at the bottom of the chain fecking deal with it. High and mighty with your degrees and master degree. Pipe down and face reality.[/QUOTE]
It's almost as if you missed the OP and the picture of a mass of people, all there for those limited "labour" positions. Precisely how disconnected from reality are you? How does one "labour for a living" if there is nowhere to labour? Sounds like you're just here to get off a quick "lotta good that education did you" quip at people who are trying to achieve more than just labouring for ridiculous sums and hours with their lives. People whose ambitions and life pursuits are apparently directly related to a horrible employment and housing market.
If you aren't capable of eeking out a contribution to the discussion, don't try to discuss. So far your logic has produced a retort of the same caliber as politely asking a chronic drunk to not drink, or a bulimic to just not vomit.
[QUOTE=nuttyboffin;44342991]I would have thought all these undergraduates and graduates would have came up with some ideas and tried to start their own companies up... thats what im planning/ working on.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter how smart you are, starting your own company isn't bloody easy.
This reminded me that quite a few of the older bus-drivers here are professors. I had to ask one because he looked so much like a stereotypical professor and he actually was. So I asked some others too. And the amount was surprisingly big.
[QUOTE=Boss;44343911]Get up off your fucking arsed and labour for a living. Your at the bottom of the chain fecking deal with it. High and mighty with your degrees and master degree. Pipe down and face reality.[/QUOTE]
Who is at the bottom of the chain, people with degrees? Who the hell are you telling to pipe down about horrid jobs?
[QUOTE=Antdawg;44344421]You don't really need to pay an arm and a leg to get a suit. I got this striped black suit (and matching pants) for only $40 at an op shop, and it was in fantastic condition. Got a tie for $5 elsewhere, and I scavenged a white collared shirt and black formal shoes from my old school uniform. It's a small investment but it can make a big difference.[/QUOTE]
Even if you got a suit, tie and shirt for £25-£30 that's still around 1/4 to just under half of what they give you, and if you're living alone somewhere, its a really big chunk out of what you get, since they give you the bare minimum on what the law believes you need to survive. That £25-30 would otherwie cover food and electricity for that week.
And as for them saying you should be working 35 hours a week to find a job, as finding a job should be your job, you'd be getting approx £2.10 per hour for looking for a job, wheras the minimum wage for a job is £6 something. Hell, worse if you get put on a placement where you're expected to perform a job in the store while still getting that same £2.10 an hour, getting nothing to cover transport costs, extra food costs etc etc. .
I'm considering dropping my prospects at an IT degree and going to trade school. People in HVAC 20 years ago complained that there weren't enough young people becoming skilled technicians. Today, people in HVAC are complaining that there aren't enough young people becoming skilled technicians.
I don't understand the logic in the title. If anything it shows the fact that people are willing to go and get a job even if it means waiting for hours just to get a chance to get work. I would love to see this economy do a U turn and people there are plenty of jobs like it was in the 90's
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;44343695]Capita had my hanging for about 2 months when I tried.
Ended up signing for another year at college because I couldn't bear standing at the dole.[/QUOTE]
Yeah they run a tight ship over there at Crapita Corporate Professional Incompetence.
[QUOTE=Seriousshakey;44351549]I don't understand the logic in the title. If anything it shows the fact that people are willing to go and get a job even if it means waiting for hours just to get a chance to get work. I would love to see this economy do a U turn and people there are plenty of jobs like it was in the 90's[/QUOTE]
The title is sarcastic, there's people who genuinely believe people are unemployed because they're lazy.
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I mean, there are lazy unemployed people, but not all of them are lazy.
[QUOTE=tommyc225;44351699]The title is sarcastic, there's people who genuinely believe people are unemployed because they're lazy.
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I mean, there are lazy unemployed people, but not all of them are lazy.[/QUOTE]
I'm lazy and hold two jobs.
Funny old world.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;44349813]Even if you got a suit, tie and shirt for £25-£30 that's still around 1/4 to just under half of what they give you, and if you're living alone somewhere, its a really big chunk out of what you get, since they give you the bare minimum on what the law believes you need to survive. That £25-30 would otherwie cover food and electricity for that week.
And as for them saying you should be working 35 hours a week to find a job, as finding a job should be your job, you'd be getting approx £2.10 per hour for looking for a job, wheras the minimum wage for a job is £6 something. Hell, worse if you get put on a placement where you're expected to perform a job in the store while still getting that same £2.10 an hour, getting nothing to cover transport costs, extra food costs etc etc. .[/QUOTE]
Well gee, it's pretty much a requirement that you should wear a suit to most job interviews. It's not a written rule of course, but if you want to be taken seriously and have a better chance at that job, so the interviewer that you are serious about it.
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[QUOTE=Antdawg;44354124]Well gee, it's pretty much a requirement that you should wear a suit to most job interviews. It's not a written rule of course, but if you want to be taken seriously and have a better chance at that job, so the interviewer that you are serious about it.
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I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of the jobcentre telling people to go out and buy a suit, when they barely have enough to get by from the fuck all the JC gives you.
I'm not on Jobseekers because I am signed off of work for mental health reasons, as well as I get benefits for that reason. I have been signed off since I left college a good 2 years ago and this tiny island I have lived on since birth is ridiculous. There are no jobs here, whatsoever. I send CV's galore since two years ago, and not one reply whatsoever, whilst some people I know get job after job after job. I honestly don't know how the hell they do it. The jobs are all taken and almost everyone I know is working except for me. I am particularly sick and tired of people asking me if I have a job yet because they believe there is nothing wrong with me and think I'm lazy which I'm not, because believe me, I AM eager to work, every day. It will certainly be much better than sitting at home doing fuck all each and every day, whilst everyone else is working. Also when people tell me "I have tattoos and piercings as well, but that hasn't stopped me from getting a job!"
I give up arguing and all I say back now is "Really? Then get me a job as well while you're at it, if it's that "easy" for you."
It really is bloody depressing for me.
I would love a job at Aldi, I don't know about the UK but they pay you very well here in Australia at Aldi. I would love any job at all though, I'm 20 years old, studying full time at university and my only job experience is 3 weeks of work experience. I've been applying for jobs for 2 years just to be turned down by all of them, meanwhile people around me are finding jobs very easily.
[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;44357522]I would love a job at Aldi, I don't know about the UK but they pay you very well here in Australia at Aldi. I would love any job at all though, I'm 20 years old, studying full time at university and my only job experience is 3 weeks of work experience. I've been applying for jobs for 2 years just to be turned down by all of them, meanwhile people around me are finding jobs very easily.[/QUOTE]
If you can, DON'T study full-time and work part-time alongside of it. Because I have to do exactly that so I can meet all my bills as I live by myself (I need to study full-time so I can receive youth allowance and rent assistance, because work only guarantees me 12 hours every week).
Here is my schedule this week:
Monday: only 'free' day of the week. Work from 8PM to midnight
Tuesday: leave for uni at 11AM and get home at 5PM. Work from 8PM to midnight again
Wednesday: leave for uni at 7:30AM (after 5 hours sleep). Get home at 2PM. Night off from work
Thursday: leave for uni at 2PM, finish at 7 and rush to work for an 8PM to midnight
Friday: same as Tuesday, but get home at 6PM instead
Saturday: work from 9AM to 6PM
Sunday: yet again work from 9AM to 6PM
I don't have a choice, I need to make $450 every week so I need as many income streams as I can get. It absolutely pisses me off seeing all the rich kids at the uni who still live with their parents and drive BMWs that mummy and daddy buy them, yet they can constantly get distinctions because they only study part-time and IF they work it's only a weekend thing. I try my best to get good grades but work and looking after a home by myself get in the way.
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Plus, if you're 20 then a wage of around $22 an hour base rate is pretty standard for the large supermarkets. The only reason Aldi's pay seems good is because they don't hire young people (who would get paid less), so no one would have heard of someone at Aldi earning anything less than $20 an hour. If you're 18 and work in a supermarket you get around $14 an hour base rate, but it's not like you could apply at Aldi if you were that young because they wouldn't hire you.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;44347607]It doesn't matter how smart you are, starting your own company isn't bloody easy.[/QUOTE]
No it isn't?
I started my own company June of last year. All you need to do is register with the Comptroller for a tax number and go down to the courthouse and register your business name so nobody else can use it.
All it is from then is advertising yourself and your skills. Join the local chamber of commerce and network, pass out business cards, make a facebook page, etc. Let people know you exist.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;44358688]No it isn't?
I started my own company June of last year. All you need to do is register with the Comptroller for a tax number and go down to the courthouse and register your business name so nobody else can use it.
All it is from then is advertising yourself and your skills. Join the local chamber of commerce and network, pass out business cards, make a facebook page, etc. Let people know you exist.[/QUOTE]
I don't know where you're from, you don't have a flagdog, but here it's hard to start even a sole proprietorship, let alone a company.
Sole proprietors and partnerships need not register for an Australian Business Number, but it is strongly advised due to allowing for a business name separate from identification of the owners. Plus, an ABN is required to be registered for GST purposes (necessary when dealing with other businesses, due to the nature of value-added tax). That's not the hard part, the hard part is keeping records of all transactions for tax returns to the ATO, both for GST and personal income tax (given that sole proprietorships and partnerships are not separate legal entities).
Then you have companies, which must have an ABN, be registered as such under the Corporations Act (2001), and have things such as at least one director, and an auditor (if the company meets the criteria for being classified as a large proprietary). To ensure proper compliance with the tax code, you'd hope the owner would be knowledgable in the area of taxation, otherwise you'd need an accountant. Oh, and so you have the issues with legal compliance (in terms of areas of law such as taxation, property, contract and employment law), protecting intellectual property (registering patents and trademarks etc) and you'd need to raise capital to even begin doing what you want to do. If you just started up, don't even bother going to the bank to try to get a loan.
Might not be too difficult to register a company - but are you entirely saw that you're complying fully with the law? And up to 50% of small businesses in Australia fail after a few years, such as from the inability to budget or to create and interpret financial statements and costing models. Sounds like a headache to me.
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If you aren't capable of eeking out a contribution to the discussion, don't try to discuss. So far your logic has produced a retort of the same caliber as politely asking a chronic drunk to not drink, or a bulimic to just not vomit.[/QUOTE]
Actually it's closer to telling the guy you just shot to stop bleeding.
[QUOTE=Boss;44343911]Get up off your fucking arsed and labour for a living. Your at the bottom of the chain fecking deal with it. High and mighty with your degrees and master degree. Pipe down and face reality.[/QUOTE]
you have not read the article. It's not that your opinion conflicts with mine, it's that it's completely misinformed
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