Whitehouse.gov Responds to Petition to Legalize Marijuana - Polidicks

[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;33017205]What perfect logic... [B]WHAT COULD GO WRONG!?[/B] :downs:[/QUOTE]people make informed decisions to use drugs that they want?

[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;33017205]What perfect logic... [B]WHAT COULD GO WRONG!?[/B] :downs:[/QUOTE] Good thing you made an informed well thought out decision, huh

Good. There's all too much evidence proving marijuana is incredibly unhealthy and dangerous. I know first hand that people using it sound, look and act like zombies. [editline]28th October 2011[/editline] stop rating me funnies I'm serious

[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;33017205]What perfect logic... [B]WHAT COULD GO WRONG!?[/B] :downs:[/QUOTE] [B][U]regulate[/U][/B] [editline]28th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=AngryChairR;33017225]Good. There's all too much evidence proving marijuana is incredibly unhealthy and dangerous.[/QUOTE] uhhhh uhhhhhhhh Seriously, I think this post just gave me an aneurysm.

[QUOTE=AngryChairR;33017225]Good. There's all too much evidence proving marijuana is incredibly unhealthy and dangerous. I know first hand that people using it sound, look and act like zombies.[/QUOTE]you're not serious are you

[quote] According to scientists at the National Institutes of Health- the world's largest source of drug abuse research - marijuana use is associated with addiction, respiratory disease, and cognitive impairment. We know from an array of treatment admission information and Federal data that marijuana use is a significant source for voluntary drug treatment admissions and visits to emergency rooms. Studies also reveal that marijuana potency has almost tripled over the past 20 years, raising serious concerns about what this means for public health – especially among young people who use the drug because research shows their brains continue to develop well into their 20's. Simply put, it is not a benign drug.[/quote] Heh, this is exactly what Lankist said would happen some time ago.

[QUOTE=AngryChairR;33017225]Good. There's all too much evidence proving marijuana is incredibly unhealthy and dangerous. I know first hand that people using it sound, look and act like zombies.[/QUOTE] PLEASE tell me your either 12 or joking.

[QUOTE=soccerskyman;33017212]The logic in it is horrible. Fuck, they said marijuana caused EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS[/QUOTE] People get high, people do stupid things, people go to emergency rooms. Not the most outlandish statement ever, though i do think that its probably exaggerated in the response, somewhat

You mean the government didn't legalize marijuana after you all clicked "sign" on an internet petition? WHOAAAAA

[QUOTE=Icedshot;33017259]People get high, people do stupid things, people go to emergency rooms. Not the most outlandish statement ever, though i do think that its probably exaggerated in the response, somewhat[/QUOTE]people get high, people eat food, people listen to pink floyd i've never known anyone high to do anything stupid (with weed, that is), and possibly go to emergency rooms for panic attacks. weed is an unknown substance to your body, sudden onset of a psychoactive drug can cause panic attacks, which can cause people to call 911 when they have no idea what a panic attack is

[QUOTE=AngryChairR;33017225]Good. There's all too much evidence proving marijuana is incredibly unhealthy and dangerous. I know first hand that people using it sound, look and act like zombies.[/QUOTE] Just because your friends are idiot stoners doesn't mean responsible adults can't use the drug safely And yes, like any smoke based inhalant, it does damage to your lungs. That's about it, as far as negative physical effects go. You know what else does that? CIGARETTES

[quote]When the President took office, he directed all of his policymakers to develop policies based on science and research, not ideology or politics. So our concern about marijuana is based on what the science tells us about the drug's effects.[/quote] the Science in question: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM_vLk1I6G4[/media]

[QUOTE=TehWhale;33017284]people get high, people eat food, people listen to pink floyd i've never known anyone high to do anything stupid (with weed, that is), and possibly go to emergency rooms for panic attacks. weed is an unknown substance to your body, sudden onset of a psychoactive drug can cause panic attacks, which can cause people to call 911 when they have no idea what a panic attack is[/QUOTE] I don't personally know anyone either to have abused alcohol in a way that might cause them to go to hospital, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that it happens. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it can't happen, i'm afraid.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;33017162]they said that to people who's brains are still developing it may be harmful, but what about everyone in the country that's over 30? fuck'em right? [editline]28th October 2011[/editline] this is answer is so fucking bullshit[/QUOTE] Can't you read, they said it's [b]especially[/b] dangerous for people under 20, as in, it's more dangerous for them.

[QUOTE=Icedshot;33017315]I don't personally know anyone either to have abused alcohol in a way that might cause them to go to hospital, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that it happens. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it can't happen, i'm afraid.[/QUOTE] So alcohol should be illegal, by your logic?

the idea shouldn't be about what causes harm, that's dumb. i don't understand how people think. how can you have guns which definitely do kill people be legal while plant stuff which has contested views of how much actual harm it causes be illegal? what the fuck is the logic in that? "guns don't harm people, pot does."

[QUOTE=Electrocuter;33017327]Can't you read, they said it's [b]especially[/b] dangerous for people under 20, as in, it's more dangerous for them.[/QUOTE]there's no proof on that. alcohol, however, causes plenty of damage to a developing brain

There absolutely isn't any reason marijuana shouldn't be readily available for medical and recreational use in a free society.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;33017289]Just because your friends are idiot stoners doesn't mean responsible adults can't use the drug safely And yes, like any smoke based inhalant, it does damage to your lungs. That's about it, as far as negative physical effects go. You know what else does that? CIGARETTES[/QUOTE] Saying that that is as far as negative physical effects go is ignoring the vast body of conflicting evidence, which uncertainly suggests that marijuana may or may not cause several other things (like various mental illness, for example). My point is, marijuana (vaporised) is still not proven to be safe. Saying it is, at the current state of medical research, is factually inaccurate. [editline]29th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Megafanx13;33017328]So alcohol should be illegal, by your logic?[/QUOTE] No. By my logic, both alcohol and marijuana can cause people to take emergency room visits at a hospital.

[QUOTE=Icedshot;33017350]Saying that that is as far as negative physical effects go is ignoring the vast body of conflicting evidence, which uncertainly suggests that marijuana may or may not cause several other things (like various mental illness, for example). My point is, marijuana (vaporised) is still not proven to be safe. Saying it is, at the current state of medical research, is factually inaccurate.[/QUOTE] It's a hell of a lot safer than the drugs that are legal in America If you're going to ban people from using natural substances that can do harm in the long run, why not ban alcohol and cigarettes too?

[QUOTE=Kybalt;33017162]they said that to people who's brains are still developing it may be harmful[/QUOTE] Seems like they're blissfully ignorant about young people's alcohol consumption.

[QUOTE=Icedshot;33017315]I don't personally know anyone either to have abused alcohol in a way that might cause them to go to hospital, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that it happens. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it can't happen, i'm afraid.[/QUOTE] Really? you must be sheltered as, since the age of like 14 Id heard of people from my school and friends going to hospital from drinking too much/getting hurt from being drunk. Also the comment about how weed has tripled in potency is bullshit, its impossible to do a proper study on that and people have been growing strong strains for much longer than 20 years.

Why do you care so much about weed? Just drink, it's legal, available, and quite entertaining.

[QUOTE=Van-man;33017405]Seems like they're blissfully ignorant about young people's alcohol consumption.[/QUOTE] Last I checked minors drinking alcohol was still illegal.

And I swear most people who go to treatment centres for marijuana addiction are doing that to make their relatives happy/get a lighter sentence.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;33017373]It's a hell of a lot safer than the drugs that are legal in America If you're going to ban people from using natural substances that can do harm in the long run, why not ban alcohol and cigarettes too?[/QUOTE] Drugs, medically, are generally licensed for curing something. Drugs that are dangerous are normally only used to treat something that has no other treatments. As of right now, marijuana has no large, non conflicting, body of evidence suggesting that it has any significant benefits in the treatment of a disease. Alcohol is illegal at the stage when it could severely damage your brain (developing etc), which makes a certain amount of sense. The long and short term dangers of alcohol are well known, and drinking alcohol in moderation will not cause you any grievous bodily harm in the long run. The dangers of marijuana smoked in moderation are unknown, and potentially dangerous, so from your question it doesn't make sense to legalise it until you are aware of the risks As to cigarettes, they can't ban them because otherwise the cigarette companies would go beserk, as well as all the people completely addicted to them

[QUOTE=Groat;33017439]Why do you care so much about weed? Just drink, it's legal, available, and quite entertaining.[/QUOTE] Because getting drunk and going to the movies is nowhere near as fun as getting high and going to movies? Ie they are for different occasions. Also many people would disagree that its quite entertaining.

[quote]We also recognize that legalizing marijuana would not provide the answer to any of the... criminal justice[/quote] Uh, it's pretty obvious that it would. It would eliminate all drug-related charges for marijuana usage. Because it would be legal. It's not exactly rocket science.

[QUOTE=Icedshot;33017443]Drugs, medically, are generally licensed for curing something. Drugs that are dangerous are normally only used to treat something that has no other treatments. As of right now, marijuana has no large, non conflicting, body of evidence suggesting that it has any significant benefits in the treatment of a disease. Alcohol is illegal at the stage when it could severely damage your brain (developing etc), which makes a certain amount of sense. The long and short term dangers of alcohol are well known, and drinking alcohol in moderation will not cause you any grievous bodily harm in the long run. The dangers of marijuana smoked in moderation are unknown, and potentially dangerous, so from your question it doesn't make sense to legalise it until you are aware of the risks As to cigarettes, they can't ban them because otherwise the cigarette companies would go beserk, as well as all the people completely addicted to them[/QUOTE] I don't even know how to reply this is literally that stupid Why not make it so marjiuana isn't available until age 18 or 21 or whatever age makes you feel like children will be safe And are you kidding or just being stupid when you say that the only reason we can't ban cigarettes is because the companies would be upset

[QUOTE=Icedshot;33017443]As of right now, marijuana has no large, non conflicting, body of evidence suggesting that it has any significant benefits in the treatment of a disease. [/QUOTE] You mean except for the research that satisfied the FDA with regard to psychoactive chemicals within cannabis in treating postop nausea, palliative care and so on?