Whitehouse.gov Responds to Petition to Legalize Marijuana - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Cone;33023729]We're a one-sided argument because the other side is retarded.[/QUOTE]That's very arrogant.

[QUOTE=Garik;33020921]Kinda. [editline]29th October 2011[/editline] But stoners I've met in my life were quite the fucking dicks and couldn't shut the fuck up about "Legalize it, legalize it now" I don't know about you, but people like those affect in my opinions[/QUOTE] Protip: People like that are going to be like that regardless of their consumption of Cannabis. Generally speaking, the Stoner stereotype is like that because those are the types of people likely to start smoking anyway. They represent the minority.

[QUOTE=Electrocuter;33017049][b]Smoking[/b] weed is bad for you and that's what they're talking about, vaporized weed supposedly has none of the bad shit.[/QUOTE] Alcohol is bad for your liver. Tobacco and whatever the hell is mixed with cigarettes are bad for, well, everything in your body really. The pros of marijuana really outweigh the cons. If you don't like it, don't use it. Prohibition in the 1920s was repealed because they found there was MORE crime with alcohol being criminalized.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;33017007]You still have to realise that Marijuana isn't completely harmless, regardless of whenever or not alcohol is worse or not.[/QUOTE] Is it necessary to prove that it is completely harmless or of medical value in order for it to be legalized? I will smoke it whether it's legal or not, and so would millions of other users, so why not legalize it man.

[QUOTE=FullStreak12;33024251]Alcohol is bad for your liver. Tobacco and whatever the hell is mixed with cigarettes are bad for, well, everything in your body really. [B]The pros of marijuana really outweigh the cons. If you don't like it, don't use it.[/B] Prohibition in the 1920s was repealed because they found there was MORE crime with alcohol being criminalized.[/QUOTE] You can't use the argument that marijuana shouldn't be banned because we don't know enough about it, and then turn around and say the pros outweigh the cons. It doesn't work that way. [B]We don't know enough about it[/B] and won't until it is legalized, however for all you know it can have many negative side effects.

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;33024433]You can't use the argument that marijuana shouldn't be banned because we don't know enough about it, and then turn around and say the pros outweigh the cons. It doesn't work that way. [B]We don't know enough about it[/B] and won't until it is legalized, however for all you know it can have many negative side effects.[/QUOTE] Yay long term damage!

[QUOTE=Ond kaja;33024106]That's very arrogant.[/QUOTE] Indeed. But, from where I'm standing, it seems to be the truth.

[QUOTE=Cone;33024467]Indeed. But, from where I'm standing, it seems to be the truth.[/QUOTE] And from where I'm standing I see optimistics fucking everywhere.

[QUOTE=Swilly;33024483]And from where I'm standing I see optimistics fucking everywhere.[/QUOTE] Well it's either ban it entirely or make it legal. There's little reason to ban it, and anything going against banning it goes towards legalizing it, so I only have one sensible option here.

[QUOTE=Cone;33024555]Well it's either ban it entirely or make it legal. There's little reason to ban it, and anything going against banning it goes towards legalizing it, so I only have one sensible option here.[/QUOTE] Middle ground?

So your "We the people" website won't do anything the people suggests ? I'm so fucking shocked

[QUOTE=Swilly;33024628]Middle ground?[/QUOTE] Well you can't "slightly" ban something. You can legalize it and regulate it, but that's still legalizing it; we can figure out how easily available it should be when we know we can buy it without the DEA kicking down out doors. It's either A or B, and both come with subsidiaries. There isn't a middle ground, but a different spectrum of both sides.

[QUOTE=Cone;33024757]Well you can't "slightly" ban something. You can legalize it and regulate it, but that's still legalizing it; we can figure out how easily available it should be when we know we can buy it without the DEA kicking down out doors. It's either A or B, and both come with subsidiaries. There isn't a middle ground, but a different spectrum of both sides.[/QUOTE] And thats why we get nowhere. Because people can't compromise. You say there is only A and B, but that's what we like to have is two choices. Humans in general, hate having a grey world where there are answers A to Z on how to do things. You see it in our daily lives and its kinda sad because if you pay attention to those other options we might get something that everyone is fine with.

[QUOTE=Cone;33021070]I don't really understand why everyone's saying that legalizing will fix so many problems. Sure, it'll fix some problems, we'll get to take it easy without too many negatives, and it might help out Mexico, and that's always a plus. But I don't see how making one drug legal is going to do much. I doubt its status as some miracle cure, is what I'm saying. Note, I'm not looking for a debate. I myself am pro-legalization. I simply want to be informed.[/QUOTE] Being losing ther property, being fired from their jobs, being imprisoned, etc isn't reason enough that shit needs to change?

I [I]knew[/I] this was going to happen. They ain't doin shit. Vaping weed is amazing though. You get the flavor, and you get considerably higher

If I may quote chris rock. "The government don't give a fuck about your safety they sell guns at wall-mart"

[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;33025767]Being losing ther property, being fired from their jobs, being imprisoned, etc isn't reason enough that shit needs to change?[/QUOTE] That isn't much in the grand scheme of things.

I'm tired of this fucking country. I want out.

There is absolutely no reason why weed should be illegal, the only people who have a problem with it, are pretentious assholes.

[QUOTE=Swilly;33026156]That isn't much in the grand scheme of things.[/QUOTE] Except it is. It might be a small thing, but it's happening daily, thus making it big in the long run.

[QUOTE=Mudbone;33026135]If I may quote chris rock. "The government don't give a fuck about your safety they sell guns at wall-mart"[/QUOTE] the government owns wal-mart? wow i never knew

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;33026292]the government owns wal-mart? wow i never knew[/QUOTE] The government allows them to sell weapons.

[QUOTE=Van-man;33026275]Except it is. It might be a small thing, but it's happening daily, thus making it big in the long run.[/QUOTE] You mean just like drug addicts? :v:

[QUOTE=lukepker;33026309]The government allows them to sell weapons.[/QUOTE] Oh yes that's right and then they force you to register the gun and maintain constant record of your ownership.

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;33026292]the government owns wal-mart? wow i never knew[/QUOTE] They don't own marijuana or the dealers either.

thats such bullshit

[QUOTE=Swilly;33024888]And thats why we get nowhere. Because people can't compromise. You say there is only A and B, but that's what we like to have is two choices. Humans in general, hate having a grey world where there are answers A to Z on how to do things. You see it in our daily lives and its kinda sad because if you pay attention to those other options we might get something that everyone is fine with.[/QUOTE] But there is literally no compromise. Either we ban something or not. Something can be many colors, but it can't be two at once. Either it's A or it's B, there is no C and there is no B&A nor A&B. You can't "half-ban" something, you either legalize or you ban. Everything else is just a different way of putting it.

Anyone mind sharing the negative effects of marijuana?

My father-in-law just told me about a story he heard on the news (randomly, we weren't discussing this). Two dudes in a truck ran down and killed four high school kids because they were eight times over the legal blood alcohol limit. I just shrugged, because I hear this kind of story quite often. That's okay though, alcohol has a few beneficial health properties.

[QUOTE=GodKing;33026686]My father-in-law just told me about a story he heard on the news (randomly, we weren't discussing this). Two dudes in a truck ran down and killed four high school kids because they were eight times over the legal limit. I just shrugged, because I hear this kind of story quite often. That's okay though, alcohol has a few beneficial health properties.[/QUOTE] I like how people like you use this as an argument to legalize marijuana. If anything, it's an argument to ban alcohol. It's childish to say, "but theeeeeyyyy get to do X, why can't I do Y!" I think it should be legalized, but arguments such as this only serve to hurt your side.