Barack Obama vows to pursue gun measures in wake of latest massacre - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Squarebob;36956029]"KNIVES AREN'T WEAPONS" Meanwhile combat knives, boot knives, bayonets. You're all a bunch of ill-informed hypocrites.[/QUOTE] ok dude but ridge kinda kicked off the argument with kitchen appliances that can served as improvised weapons, not military-grade ones

[QUOTE=Squarebob;36956029]"KNIVES AREN'T WEAPONS" Meanwhile combat knives, boot knives, bayonets. You're all a bunch of ill-informed hypocrites.[/QUOTE] Nobody should own any of those either unless they're in the military or a similar position. And even the best knives don't hold a candle to all the gun deaths.

[QUOTE=Ridge;36956025][video=youtube;WsiQ1bm6IvI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsiQ1bm6IvI[/video][/QUOTE] hey ridge is cars are such great weapons why not just use those for self-defense? checkmate, gun proponents :smug:

[QUOTE=Kopimi;36956021]i can't tell whether its amusing or just sad how desperate you guys are to use the "WHY DONT WE BAN CARS AND PEOPLES HANDS AND HAMMERS LOL" argument seriously[/QUOTE] Nobody is actually serious about banning cars. Just pointing out that there are far more dangerous things out there than guns owned by law abiding citizens.

[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36956048]But the only argument you guys can present is, "guns were made to be weapons, therefor ban them".[/QUOTE] yeah except for all the OTHER shit ive said like how guns cause 2/3 of murders in USA

[QUOTE=Squarebob;36956029]"KNIVES AREN'T WEAPONS" Meanwhile combat knives, boot knives, bayonets. You're all a bunch of ill-informed hypocrites.[/QUOTE] you cant blindly throw a knife into a crowd and kill 10 people you stupid idiot

[QUOTE=Kopimi;36956044]ok even though thats not backed up by any logic or evidence even if we assume people will just kill regardless of an access to guns, at least without guns they would statistically do significantly less damage[/QUOTE] Guns do a lot less damage when compared to other weapons really. Seriously, getting up on someone with a knife will fuck them up infinitely more then a bullet.

[QUOTE=Ridge;36956055]Nobody is actually serious about banning cars. Just pointing out that there are far more dangerous things out there than guns owned by law abiding citizens.[/QUOTE] it's a dumb analogy and you're a dumb person for continually defending it

[QUOTE=Cheesemonkey;36956061]you cant blindly throw a knife into a crowd and kill 10 people you stupid idiot[/QUOTE] Can with a cheap home-made bomb

[QUOTE=Ridge;36956025][video=youtube;WsiQ1bm6IvI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsiQ1bm6IvI[/video][/QUOTE] Wow, you showed me by showing one freak incident where a car burst through an extremely wide glass door. Can you bring that car up an elevator or through a normal door?

[QUOTE=Ridge;36956055]Nobody is actually serious about banning cars. Just pointing out that there are far more dangerous things out there than guns owned by law abiding citizens.[/QUOTE] wow thanks for clarifying clearly i thought you were advocating banning cars seriously rather than just trying to desperately compare the killing capacity of a gun to a car (which failed anyway)

[QUOTE=Cheesemonkey;36956061]you cant blindly throw a knife into a crowd and kill 10 people you stupid idiot[/QUOTE] i got a multi kill in cod doing that

[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36956062]Guns do a lot less damage when compared to other weapons really. Seriously, getting up on someone with a knife will fuck them up infinitely more then a bullet.[/QUOTE] yeah a knife will clearly handle a crowd better instead of an shotgun with aftermarket components to make it more comfortable and swift to use

[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36956062]Guns do a lot less damage when compared to other weapons really. Seriously, getting up on someone with a knife will fuck them up infinitely more then a bullet.[/QUOTE] oh fuck off literally nobody is talking about mutilation we're talking about the scale of an event and the number/severity of injuries sustained

[QUOTE=Rusty100;36956050]Nobody should own any of those either unless they're in the military or a similar position. And even the best knives don't hold a candle to all the gun deaths.[/QUOTE] Why should only the military be allowed the use of weapons?

[QUOTE=Cheesemonkey;36956061]you cant blindly throw a knife into a crowd and kill 10 people you stupid idiot[/QUOTE] Yeah because that isn't how you use a knife.

[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36956066]Can with a cheap home-made bomb[/QUOTE] yep because homemade bombs are such a popular choice for killings, i heard in the inner city people are afraid to leave their neighborhoods at night because of all the bombings that take place

[QUOTE=Kopimi;36956084]oh fuck off literally nobody is talking about mutilation we're talking about the scale of an event and the number/severity of injuries sustained[/QUOTE] Oh I would say the injuries from a knife attack, or most other weapons besides a gun are usually a lot worse.

[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36956066]Can with a cheap home-made bomb[/QUOTE] successful homemade bomb attacks: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre[/url] [editline]27th July 2012[/editline] oh wait

[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36956085]Why should only the military be allowed the use of weapons?[/QUOTE] because their job is to fight other militaries?

[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36956085]Why should only the military be allowed the use of weapons?[/QUOTE] ... are you being serious (i was including police btw)

[QUOTE=Kopimi;36956094]yep because homemade bombs are such a popular choice for killings, i heard in the inner city people are afraid to leave their neighborhoods at night because of all the bombings that take place[/QUOTE] Hey, just saying, it takes jack shit to whip one up. All it takes is for people to realize that.

[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36956062]Guns do a lot less damage when compared to other weapons really. Seriously, getting up on someone with a knife will fuck them up infinitely more then a bullet.[/QUOTE] Why does it only have to be one bullet? Are they using muskets?

[QUOTE=Rusty100;36956107]... are you being serious (i was including police btw)[/QUOTE] Yes I am. The only thing sepereating a military person, from a civilian is a couple months of training, that is [B]IT.[/B]

[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36956108]Hey, just saying, it takes jack shit to whip one up. All it takes is for people to realize that.[/QUOTE] i would suggest we work on making them less accessible but then i worry god fearing bomb-owners might get upset because their hobby is being threatened

[QUOTE=Falubii;36956069]Wow, you showed me by showing one freak incident where a car burst through an extremely wide glass door. Can you bring that car up an elevator or through a normal door?[/QUOTE] Fine, here is another. Using a police-style assault car [video=youtube;IIdGxR-aU6o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIdGxR-aU6o[/video]

Like I said, if knifes and cars and fuck it, tomatoes, are equally deadly, why aren't soldiers equipped with only those when they go into battle.

[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36956114]Yes I am. The only thing sepereating a military person, from a civilian is a couple months of training, that is [B]IT.[/B][/QUOTE] yep just a couple of months of training ...

[QUOTE=Rusty100;36956107]... are you being serious (i was including police btw)[/QUOTE] You know police are just citizens right

[QUOTE=Ridge;36956120]Fine, here is another. Using a police-style car [video=youtube;IIdGxR-aU6o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIdGxR-aU6o[/video][/QUOTE] you fuckin serious