Democrats cling onto the Senate by not much while GOP dominates the House. Prop 19 fails. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;25826758] Lying, backstabbing bitch. "I do not support the Iraq war however I continue to pass bills to support funding."[/QUOTE] My favorite horrifying line will always be, "You have to pass it in order to find out what's in it."

I don't understand what's the point in legalizing it. The people who smoke illegally now will *most likely* continue to smoke illegally because it is cheaper without the tax. The people who don't smoke will *most likely* continue to not smoke. Please note that while I'm stereotyping somewhat, I added "*most likely*" to show that there are exceptions to both. Yet, I feel that these exceptions would HARDLY make a dent in state revenue.

[QUOTE=Zeddy;25826604]The first and last points I agree with entirely, but if you know much of anything about the free market economy and economics in general, you'd most likely recant that part of the statement. [/QUOTE] So you don't think there should be any restrictions at all, and that all redistribution of wealth is wrong? Or are we misunderstanding each other?

Can we have these legalization of pot props in other states? California isn't responsible enough to handle serious shit like this.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;25824170]It is a big loss. It's a big loss of tax revenue, and it's a big loss for rights movements. But who cares right? pot kills, right? [editline]2nd November 2010[/editline] Oh, and the drug war costs billions a year, trillions since it's inception. You want to keep that around? Yeah, [b]THAT'S HELPING THE ECONOMY[/b].[/QUOTE] Lol oh yeah HUGE DEVASTATING LOSS OF TAX REVENUE. If it was going to make such a large change, the government would jump on it as soon as possible.

Fuck. :frown:

[QUOTE=FoxwolfJackson;25826864]I don't understand what's the point in legalizing it. The people who smoke illegally now will *most likely* continue to smoke illegally because it is cheaper without the tax. The people who don't smoke will *most likely* continue to not smoke. Please note that while I'm stereotyping somewhat, I added "*most likely*" to show that there are exceptions to both. Yet, I feel that these exceptions would HARDLY make a dent in state revenue.[/QUOTE] Ask yourself the point of keeping it illegal.

[QUOTE=sp00ks;25826288]The Constitution doesn't say shit about religion[/QUOTE] Actually, it does. Hell, I don't even live in America and I know that.

Finally, no more super majority and the Republicans have the house. Seeing as now the two parties are now forced to cooperate to pass anything, I think this is a good sign.

[QUOTE=dogmachines;25827389]Finally, no more super majority and the Republicans have the house. Seeing as now the two parties are now forced to cooperate to pass anything, I think this is a good sign.[/QUOTE] The balance of power has been restored.

[QUOTE=sp00ks;25826923]So you don't think there should be any restrictions at all, and that all redistribution of wealth is wrong? Or are we misunderstanding each other?[/QUOTE] You need to be more specific on what you are pointing at for restrictions because you may be confusing free market with free enterprise. As far as redistribution, I do believe that at the very least the income gap needs to be dramatically reduced and that the overall income of the majority of the population needs to be increased, but I don't believe in taking it to the extreme of absolutely equalizing all income by law.

[QUOTE=Zeddy;25827820]You need to be more specific on what you are pointing at for restrictions because you may be confusing free market with free enterprise. As far as redistribution, I do believe that at the very least the income gap needs to be dramatically reduced and that the overall income of the majority of the population needs to be increased, but I don't believe in taking it to the extreme of absolutely equalizing all income by law.[/QUOTE] If you rob the rich people blind through the proxy of "government" as the guise of "helping the poor", you are robbing their motivation for making more money. If they stop making that money we keep taking from them, the burden will slowly transfer more and more to the middle class to continue supporting the social programs for the lower class. You tax them enough and they may even eventually leave the country. It's similar to the way a lot of industry left New Jersey, especially South Jersey (and made it a shithole), because high taxes drove them to other states. ------------------------------ [QUOTE=Mooe94;25827285]Ask yourself the point of keeping it illegal.[/QUOTE] I personally don't care either way if it's legal or illegal... just as long as those potheads don't drive on the road when high and crash into me and kill me.

I was going to vote for Prop 19, but I sent in my registration on the day of the deadline, [i]after[/i] USPS does their final mail pick up for the day.

Well, shit.

More proof the American majority population are brainless and stupid.

[QUOTE={ABK}AbbySciuto;25826127]So you're for completely going against the Constitution, then.[/QUOTE] congratulations, I rated you tool [editline]3rd November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeddy;25826604]The first and last points I agree with entirely, but if you know much of anything about the free market economy and economics in general, you'd most likely recant that part of the statement.[/quote] republicans support it, Capitalism doesn't work welp, lets go home.

Well on the bright side at least that idiot O'Donnell didn't get elected I guess you could say....she got Tea-Bagged And as for prop 19...fuck Cali...same idiots that brought you that video game violence bill

[QUOTE=PEn1s lol;25828595]More proof the American majority population are brainless and stupid.[/QUOTE] When the majority vote to how you like, they're brilliant. When the majority vote to how you dislike, they're brainless and stupid. You DO realize that it's the [I]same majority of people[/I], right?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;25826736]When it all drags down to it... I'm happy Pelosi is out. She was one miserable bitch, regardless of politics.[/QUOTE] I've been following the facebook page for conservatives, and about 90% of the posts are about Pelosi, so i'm led to beleive this is a lovers spat. In hindsight, I honestly don't know what's so fucking bad about her. [editline]3rd November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;25826758]yes because the republicans are all evil people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go democrats![/QUOTE] Well republicans are pretty fucking disastrous.

[QUOTE=Warhol;25828680]I've been following the facebook page for conservatives, and about 90% of the posts are about Pelosi, so i'm led to beleive this is a lovers spat. In hindsight, I honestly don't know what's so fucking bad about her.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU[/media] Brilliant politician! Lets force a vote on something no one has read into so we can find out what's actually in it!

[QUOTE=Warhol;25828680]I've been following the facebook page for conservatives, and about 90% of the posts are about Pelosi, so i'm led to beleive this is a lovers spat. In hindsight, I honestly don't know what's so fucking bad about her.[/QUOTE] "I do not support the Iraq war however I continue to pass bills to support funding." "You have to pass it in order to find out what's in it."

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;25826774]My favorite horrifying line will always be, "You have to pass it in order to find out what's in it."[/QUOTE] You and every other retarded Republican- oh i'm sorry, you're pretending to be Libertarian now; keep using that lined. You've quote mined the hell out of it and you still got her point wrong

Oh great. Democrat senate and a republican house. Now everyone is going to cockblock everything from the other party. EDIT: Though on the upside, both sides are retarded. So while no progress will be made, at least they can't do much damage. EDIT2: Famous last words.

[QUOTE=FoxwolfJackson;25827880]If you rob the rich people blind through the proxy of "government" as the guise of "helping the poor", you are robbing their motivation for making more money. If they stop making that money we keep taking from them, the burden will slowly transfer more and more to the middle class to continue supporting the social programs for the lower class. You tax them enough and they may even eventually leave the country. It's similar to the way a lot of industry left New Jersey, especially South Jersey (and made it a shithole), because high taxes drove them to other states.[/quote] Uh, Eisenhower pinned them to the wall with MASSIVE taxes, and they didn't seem to mind. [quote]I personally don't care either way if it's legal or illegal... just as long as those potheads don't drive on the road when high and crash into me and kill me.[/QUOTE] More chance of them crashing into you and killing you if they were drunk on a legal substance, like alcohol. [editline]3rd November 2010[/editline] watch as Emperor Scorpious proves me wrong instead of hiding behind ratings. [editline]3rd November 2010[/editline] oh wait! [editline]3rd November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;25828720][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU[/media] Brilliant politician! Lets force a vote on something no one has read into so we can find out what's actually in it![/QUOTE] You missed the fucking point by a mile. [editline]3rd November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=starpluck;25828722]"I do not support the Iraq war however I continue to pass bills to support funding." "You have to pass it in order to find out what's in it."[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=641&q=%22I+do+not+support+the+Iraq+war+however+I+continue+to+pass+bills+to+support+funding.%22+&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=CU-Ve5nvRTMniJpDcMa6U2OAPAAAAqgQFT9CdsLg[/url] [img]http://doostang.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/george-bush-laughing.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Warhol;25828799] [URL]http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=641&q=%22I+do+not+support+the+Iraq+war+however+I+continue+to+pass+bills+to+support+funding.%22+&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=CU-Ve5nvRTMniJpDcMa6U2OAPAAAAqgQFT9CdsLg[/URL] [img_thumb]http://doostang.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/george-bush-laughing.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] It's called paraphrasing. [url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6095868[/url] [url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16057734[/url]

She can't end the war. Only thing she can do is fuck it up further So the alternative is to let them die out? “We will not cut off funding for the troops,” Pelosi said. “Absolutely not,” she said. “None of us want to fail; none of us want to see Iraq as a failure,” said incoming Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland. “Let me remove all doubt in anyone’s mind; as long as our troops are in harm’s way, Democrats will be there to support them, but… we will have oversight over that funding,” she said.

I'm actually not to unhappy about the rise of the Republicans. These new Tea Party guys will cause conflict within the party, they also might do some good when it comes to cutting spending, and the obvious failure of both parties 2 years from now might help the rise of a much needed third party (preferably libertarian) [editline]3rd November 2010[/editline] also prop 19 was a very restrictive legalization proposition, some stoners I know even argue that how we have it now with pot possession and smoking being an infraction with $100 fine without a card is almost better. [editline]3rd November 2010[/editline] then again almost all the stoners I know are in between 14 and 20 so it wouldn't be very helpful to them.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;25827304]Actually, it does. Hell, I don't even live in America and I know that.[/QUOTE] All it says is that the government should stay the fuck away from it.

[QUOTE=starpluck;25823594]Prop 19 fails and the GOP takes control of the House while losing the senate by a bit. Fuck :([/QUOTE] Yeah, because we want the democrats to continue pouring what's left of us down the drain, right? Do you have a brain, son? I'm beginning to think not. How you could [I]ever[/I] think the democrats did us any favors after the last election is a mystery.

Buck up boys, the next 2 years are gonna be rough :clint: