Democrats cling onto the Senate by not much while GOP dominates the House. Prop 19 fails. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Strider*;25839084]I am a free market libertarian. The free market can do no more wrong than government intervention. And our history of breaking away from the principles of capitalism and the free market have shown this.[/QUOTE] im laughing heartily

[QUOTE=Strider*;25839084]I am a free market libertarian. The free market can do no more wrong than government intervention. And our history of breaking away from the principles of capitalism and the free market have shown this. [editline]3rd November 2010[/editline] I'd say Ron Paul is fairly close though and libertarianism has definitely influenced his political career.[/QUOTE] i didnt know the government uses slaves to make cloths?

[QUOTE=BrickInHead;25839183]im laughing heartily[/QUOTE] Enjoy yourself. But while you're at it consider how much thought you've really put into government intrusion. It's disheartening how quick our society has begun to regard the governments of the world as the brash saviors of that "evil free market where crooks and liars benefit on the expense of others".

[QUOTE=Warhol;25838382]Libertarianism believes in a free-market, that's failure enough[/QUOTE] No not necessarily I think he's trying to draw the distinction between libertarianism and the kind of shit you get from the libertarian party which are not really the same thing. Libertarianism has a much broader definition than the ideals of the libertarian party. Noam Chomsky, for instance, is a libertarian socialist.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25839307]wait so your saying free market is worse then government help[/QUOTE] Not government help.. government intervention and regulation. And the other way around. [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;25839336]libertarian socialist.[/QUOTE] Yeah there is this.

[QUOTE=Strider*;25839321]Enjoy yourself. But while you're at it consider how much thought you've really put into government intrusion. It's disheartening how quick our society has begun to regard the governments of the world as the brash saviors of that "evil free market where crooks and liars benefit on the expense of others".[/QUOTE] That argument cuts both ways

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;25839355]That argument cuts both ways[/QUOTE] You're right and it could perhaps be applied to me as well. The difference is that I don't laugh when someone tells me they're a socialist.

since people help there society more when the society is helping them, that people on average happeir when resources are divided evenly and because scientific advances have so many times been hindered by greed i would say anything that supports cooperation is probably the best thing for us

[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25839488]because scientific advances have so many times been hindered by greed [/QUOTE] When for example? Last I recall many of the major scientific advances of the past two centuries have been accomplished from the direct result of private interest. [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25839488]that people on average happeir when resources are divided evenly [/QUOTE] You can't run a society on the idea of equal resources until we have such a large abundance that everyone has so much there is no want or need for any more. "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." - Churchill

[QUOTE=Strider*;25839545]When for example? Last I recall many of the major scientific advances of the past two centuries have been accomplished from the direct result of private interest.[/QUOTE] look up nikola tesla or the electric car also good scientists dont help the world because they want to buy a new tv

[QUOTE=Strider*;25839084]I am a free market libertarian. The free market can do no more wrong than government intervention. [/QUOTE] Somalia is an example of this

Not sure why Republicans are so excited to take the house for two years. Sure, they get their gridlock, but now they're going to get blamed for no progress, and its going to be much easier for Obama to get reelected. also jerry brown is now my governor fuck my life

[QUOTE=Amplar;25838858]now that democrats aren't in power, can someone tell me one good thing obama and his democrats have done?[/QUOTE] Healthcare reform, economic reform, pulled out of Iraq, etc

Potheads lose

[QUOTE=Strider*;25839084]I am a free market libertarian.[/quote] Sorry to hear that. Do you know your system is a total failure or are you still in the stage of denial? [quote]The free market can do no more wrong than government intervention. And our history of breaking away from the principles of capitalism and the free market have shown this.[/quote] Bush was a great capitalist, he was president about 2 years ago. So i'd say: nope.avi

Bush proved that capitalism effects how government is run and in a bad way

the republicans are all blazed as shit, now theyre just mocking us

[QUOTE=Warhol;25839896]Bush was a great capitalist, he was president about 2 years ago. So i'd say: nope.avi[/QUOTE] Bush was not a free market capitalist, he wanted less regulation but only in certain sectors. You can not compare a free market capitalist to a President with programs of medicare, farm subsidies, and no child left behind.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25839958]Bush proved that capitalism effects how government is run and in a bad way[/QUOTE] Reagan did that. Bush Jr. proved that a moron should not run a country.

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25840199]Reagan did that. Bush Jr. proved that a moron should not run a country.[/QUOTE] Yeah by getting us out of the recession of the 80's within a year and leading one of the greatest periods of American prosperity.

[QUOTE=Strider*;25840233]Yeah by getting us out of the recession of the 80's within a year and leading one of the greatest periods of American prosperity.[/QUOTE] lol wait, you're being serious?

[QUOTE=Strider*;25840233]Yeah by getting us out of the recession of the 80's within a year and leading one of the greatest periods of American prosperity.[/QUOTE] *for the rich

[QUOTE=Leon Trotsky;25840292]lol wait, you're being serious?[/QUOTE] Unemployment went down as well as inflation and interest rates.

[QUOTE=Strider*;25840350]Unemployment went down as well as inflation and interest rates.[/QUOTE] [quote]Reagan's tax policies pushed both the international transactions current account and the federal budget into deficit and led to a significant increase in public debt. National debt more than tripled from 900 billion dollars to 2.8 trillion dollars during Reagan's tenure.[/quote]

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25840320]*for the rich[/QUOTE] and straight white christians

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25840199]Reagan did that. Bush Jr. proved that a moron should not run a country.[/QUOTE] I meant in the case that government can easily get corrupted by money

[QUOTE=Strider*;25840233]Yeah by getting us out of the recession of the 80's within a year and leading one of the greatest periods of American prosperity.[/QUOTE] My god.

[QUOTE=Strider*;25840233]Yeah by getting us out of the recession of the 80's within a year and leading one of the greatest periods of American prosperity.[/QUOTE] haha whats next your going to say gays cant marry and that abortion is murder. I cant stand people that cant admit that there party has faults [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] But really i dont see why republicans think that leaving work to the rich guys will turn out better then leaving it to the government (which is funny because i believe in a form of anarchy)

[QUOTE=Leon Trotsky;25840477]and straight white christians[/QUOTE] Which tend to be rich. [editline]3rd November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Amplar;25838858]now that democrats aren't in power, can someone tell me one good thing obama and his democrats have done?[/QUOTE] [url]http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/[/url] oh wah oh

[QUOTE=Lambeth;25840712]Which tend to be rich.[/QUOTE] trying to cover all boundaries