Democrats cling onto the Senate by not much while GOP dominates the House. Prop 19 fails. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Warhol;25844295]unless they're poor, cuz that's icky[/QUOTE] Yeah because I completely hate the lower class I was born into. You know nothing about me stop being such a tool. [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Lambeth;25844338]Well they gave stem cell research funding again.[/QUOTE] I thought the Bush administration also made it illegal and then the Obama administration repealed that. If so that's one of decisions by Obama I approve of.

Fuck we're [b]REALLY[/B] gonna be poor now :(

[QUOTE=Warhol;25838382]uh... my avatar? Libertarianism believes in a free-market, that's failure enough[/QUOTE] No the other guy's hammer and sickle avatar and your post history. And as you've clearly stated you think the free market is bad which means it won't matter what I tell you because you're ideas of how a market should work contrast heavily with mine.

Oh god. Democrats aren't fixing shit, vote Republican. A FEW YEARS LATER... Oh god. Republicans aren't fixing shit, vote Democrat. Such is life in America.

[QUOTE=Warhol;25839896]Sorry to hear that. Do you know your system is a total failure or are you still in the stage of denial? Bush was a great capitalist, he was president about 2 years ago. So i'd say: nope.avi[/QUOTE] Bush was a terrible capitalist, at least in the eyes of a Libertarian like me. His administration gave benefits to the biggest corporations, and had lobbyists left and right. Most Libertarians I know (including me) know that a free market cannot exist when there is intervention from a government that is heavily influenced by lobbyists.

[QUOTE=Strider*;25843326] In my view life is life and I sometimes feel that I consider it more valuable than even the religious do.[/QUOTE] I guess you're extremely pro-healthcare and spend lots of money on charity then.

[QUOTE=sp00ks;25845661]I guess you're extremely pro-healthcare and spend lots of money on charity then.[/QUOTE] Charity yes. Health care.. nope.avi.

You think that private health care is better for people? [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] How much do you give to charity?

[QUOTE=Strider*;25844930]Yeah because I completely hate the lower class I was born into. You know nothing about me stop being such a tool. [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] I thought the Bush administration also made it illegal and then the Obama administration repealed that. If so that's one of decisions by Obama I approve of.[/QUOTE] Interesting...you're against abortion, but support embryonic stem cell research? Isn't there a contradiction there?

[QUOTE=Strider*;25844930]Yeah because I completely hate the lower class I was born into. You know nothing about me stop being such a tool.[/QUOTE] I always find it funny when Capitalists are poor. You're obviously in denial that your system is an out right fucking failure [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=SM0K3 B4N4N4;25845466]No the other guy's hammer and sickle avatar and your post history. And as you've clearly stated you think the free market is bad which means it won't matter what I tell you because you're ideas of how a market should work contrast heavily with mine.[/QUOTE] It's basic history, it just doesn't work. No manner of pretending is going to change that

[QUOTE=Warhol;25849104]It's basic history, it just doesn't work. No manner of pretending is going to change that[/QUOTE] As opposed to communism? I think we all know how well that turned out.

[QUOTE=SM0K3 B4N4N4;25845571]Bush was a terrible capitalist, at least in the eyes of a Libertarian like me. His administration gave benefits to the biggest corporations, and had lobbyists left and right. Most Libertarians I know (including me) know that a free market cannot exist when there is intervention from a government that is heavily influenced by lobbyists.[/QUOTE] of course in your eyes. because he FAILED at it. Like the system he used. And he used it pretty well [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Gentlemanne;25849160]As opposed to communism? I think we all know how well that turned out.[/QUOTE] Who the fuck said anything about communism. And communism has never been implemented [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=sp00ks;25846987]You think that private health care is better for people? [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] How much do you give to charity?[/QUOTE] Well he gave some spare change to the Ayn Rand institute... That's a charity... right? [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr_Funk;25847243]Interesting...you're against abortion, but support embryonic stem cell research? Isn't there a contradiction there?[/QUOTE] he's a lolbertarian, what else do you expect?

[QUOTE=Warhol;25849173]Who the fuck said anything about communism. And communism has never been implemented[/QUOTE] So, you're argumenting against capitalism, we've established that, what are you argumenting FOR?

Socialism.

Honestly what the fuck. Prop 19 fails? The people who voted no obviously didn't even look at the facts before they voted.

The people who voted no are old people, and old people suck balls.

[QUOTE=Warhol;25849823]Socialism.[/QUOTE] Well, that explains where you come from on that. Good to see you vote straight down the democrat party line. Also: I find it hilarious that people who are SO for governmental intervention in the markets (socialism) that they support this proposition. I mean, this would legalize marijuana and make the government have LESS control over the people. This baffles me... someone explain?

I don't understand. Are you saying that the government can't control high people, and that socialists want the government to control them?

[QUOTE=Warhol;25849104]I always find it funny when Capitalists are poor. You're obviously in denial that your system is an out right fucking failure[/QUOTE] The job market is a failure. Sorry that the market wont bow down and hand us their money so we have more to spend on their stuff.

[QUOTE=sp00ks;25850162]The people who voted no are old people, and old people suck balls.[/QUOTE] Or you know, pretty much everyone who wasn't a stoner in high school. I don't think you realize how widespread the tobacco companies propaganda is.

[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;25852972]Or you know, pretty much everyone who wasn't a stoner in high school. I don't think you realize how widespread the tobacco companies propaganda is.[/QUOTE] The bill was nearly 50/50 pro/against. More time and better marketing and something like it [i]will[/i] pass.

[QUOTE=FoxwolfJackson;25850426]Well, that explains where you come from on that. Good to see you vote straight down the democrat party line. Also: I find it hilarious that people who are SO for governmental intervention in the markets (socialism) that they support this proposition. I mean, this would legalize marijuana and make the government have LESS control over the people. This baffles me... someone explain?[/QUOTE] I was under the impression that Socialism was about control of businesses, not control of people's private lives.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;25854134]I was under the impression that Socialism was about control of businesses, not control of people's private lives.[/QUOTE] Banning smoking in public spaces sure is socially libertarian.

[QUOTE=FoxwolfJackson;25850426]Well, that explains where you come from on that. Good to see you vote straight down the democrat party line.[/quote] We don't have a democratic party in Ireland [quote]I find it hilarious that people who are SO for governmental intervention in the markets (socialism) that they support this proposition. I mean, this would legalize marijuana and make the government have LESS control over the people. This baffles me... someone explain?[/QUOTE] How do you divide political opinion? Fiscal and social. It doesn't take a genius too realise MARKETS are not fucking social. [editline]4th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Ridge;25852943]The job market is a failure. Sorry that the market wont bow down and hand us their money so we have more to spend on their stuff.[/QUOTE] You conservatives have conflicting market opinions, and you don't realise it. I find it funny.

socoolism

[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;25854318]Banning smoking in public spaces sure is socially libertarian.[/QUOTE] Socialism is a term that refers to economics. Banning smoking has nothing to do with whether a government is socialist or not.

[QUOTE=Warhol;25849104]I always find it funny when Capitalists are poor. You're obviously in denial that your system is an out right fucking failure[/QUOTE] Who said I was poor? I said I was born into the lower class that doesn't mean I'm still there. No system of economy has more benefited the overall well being of the poor than capitalism.

[QUOTE=Strider*;25858121]Who said I was poor? I said I was born into the lower class that doesn't mean I'm still there. No system of economy has more benefited the overall well being of the poor than capitalism.[/QUOTE] LOL That's so funny you have no idea. You obviously don't have any clue about what true capitalism has done to the poor historically.

[QUOTE=Strider*;25858121] No system of economy has more benefited the overall well being of the poor than capitalism.[/QUOTE] All other economic systems either make the poor richer or keep them where they are. Capitalism is the only economic system in history that can actually make them poorer.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;25858233]LOL That's so funny you have no idea. You obviously don't have any clue about what true capitalism has done to the poor historically.[/QUOTE] Doesn't him going from poor to not poor kinda support the idea that poor people can become...not poor?