Valve To Release L4D2 Fan Mod As Paid DLC - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Guniv;28105661]The problem is that Valve is getting lazy, and we don't like it. Either update it yourselves or don't. I wish Valve would take the DICE approach and drop everything else for Portal 2.[/QUOTE] I want my Episode 3. Its pissing me off how long it taking them, come on, they said that they would release a episode every 1-2 years, its been too long.

[QUOTE=BloodYScar;28105241]Hahaha oh god... Just when you thought L4D couldnt get worse. The L4D team can go fuck themselves, ruining valves reputation since the announcement of L4D2[/QUOTE] im sorry but could you post something good at LEAST ONCE? like seriously every post i see from you is just plain stupid. also i played the DLC campaign, it wasn't so bad I guess but i dont think it comes to a DLC "status"

[QUOTE=DasMatze;28106482]I hate how Valve can turn anything good in the reader's eyes: aka "We don't have the time to create anything new, so let's put random, non-fitting stuff into the game so it gets attention (like TF2's recent hats and weapons)." Same goes for the Mann Co. store where Gabe said something like "We wanted to experiment with the store ... bla bla bla ... the most sold item was the most expensive item ... bla bla bla ..." in an interview a few days ago. Of course it's just money whoring. If it was an experiment why would you make it that expensive? Another example is how they never mentioned that they couldn't get Jim French, the voice actor of Bill, for The Sacrifice. Again they said something about experimenting by letting Bill die but in reality they simply couldn't get Jim French to add some new lines since he's in prison. What would be a better decision than letting his character die?! I don't mind new Updates/DLCs and featured community stuff but please be the human and honest company you are known for! Otherwise you start to disappoint me.[/QUOTE] Since when was he in prison?

[QUOTE=shian;28143209]Since when was he in prison?[/QUOTE] he never WAS in prison, it was a stupid rumor, he actually hosts a radio show.

L4D is turning into TF2.

[QUOTE=JustGman;28145774]L4D is turning into TF2.[/QUOTE] Fuck off with that shit, valve has added one community map (which I still think is a pile of shit) but it's not nearing anything close to TF2

I'm surprised people are still complaining about Episode 3. Just forget about it until Valve actually announces more about it,

So no custom hats yet? I want Ellis to have a horse mask

[QUOTE=NeoTyrant;28105508]Personally I think that if they are doing a "non story" dlc, they should include another set of survivors for the cold stream campaign and future no story campaigns. Just because it wouldn't make sense to have the l4d2 survivors there to begin with. But whatever atleast I won't have to install l4d1 again everytime I feel like playing it's campaigns.[/QUOTE] This is actually a very neat suggestion. Also I'm surprised there's so much backlash to this. When I read it on the L4D blog I thought it was very Valve-like of them to involve the community in the DLC process. Also for those worried about paying on the PC, we've had similar worries with The Passing because they started using the term "DLC" instead of "update". They've also said various times before in interviews before this that they wanted to ship community maps to the Xbox 360, but that it would require them to be paid for DLC, and that they needed to iron out the money issues. Lastly, you don't pay for TF2 maps (just like you're not forced to pay for the new hats or weapons), but Valve compensated them with huge checks each time a map has been purchased, long before the Mann Co. Store even begun to exist. I'm sure the initial purchase of Cold Stream will be handled the same way, with smaller increments being paid through purchased Xbox titles. If the DLC was intended to be charged for PC users as the only means of obtaining it, Valve would have definitely mentioned it on the blog, as any major changes to the general flow of the game (mutations, community campaigns) have been mentioned, and one as big as this would have definitely been mentioned.

[QUOTE=PrSon4;28115263]more like [img_thumb]http://i54.tinypic.com/23lxxk8.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Why is it Gabe and not Robin? Also you can ignore and not eat the shitburger, like play another game or simply not buy the stuff from the store?

[QUOTE=john_frohman;28148266]Why is it Gabe and not Robin? Also you can ignore and not eat the shitburger, like play another game or simply not buy the stuff from the store?[/QUOTE] But I paid for the burger.

[QUOTE=PrSon4;28115263]more like [img_thumb]http://i54.tinypic.com/23lxxk8.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Not really, since the store is completely optional and all of the gameplay affecting items and most of the cosmetic items can be obtained the normal way. A better analogy would be receiving a ketchup packet with your plain burger, then complaining that you don't like the taste of ketchup and that your burger is ruined.

[QUOTE=Wowza!;28153198]Not really, since the store is completely optional all of the gameplay affecting items and most of the cosmetic items can be obtained the normal way. A better analogy would be receiving a ketchup packet with your plain burger, then complaining that you don't like the taste of ketchup and that your burger is ruined.[/QUOTE] Except when it comes to TF2, a lot of people complain that the hats and all that ruin the style of the game, and the way the community acts about them and the mann store in game. The ketchup analogy works better with what they're going to be doing with l4d2, where the new campaign will be entirely separate from the old ones.

[QUOTE=Pavarotti;28153634]Except when it comes to TF2, a lot of people complain that the hats and all that ruin the style of the game, and the way the community acts about them and the mann store in game. The ketchup analogy works better with what they're going to be doing with l4d2, where the new campaign will be entirely separate from the old ones.[/QUOTE] None of that really has anything to do with the actual gameplay. If the store didn't exist, people would still be obsessed with/whining about hats. Also, I think that most people aren't complaining that the campaigns will ruin the game, but more about the fact that this DLC appears to involve zero effort whatsoever.

[QUOTE=menneb;28147156]This is actually a very neat suggestion. Also I'm surprised there's so much backlash to this. When I read it on the L4D blog I thought it was very Valve-like of them to involve the community in the DLC process. Also for those worried about paying on the PC, we've had similar worries with The Passing because they started using the term "DLC" instead of "update". They've also said various times before in interviews before this that they wanted to ship community maps to the Xbox 360, but that it would require them to be paid for DLC, and that they needed to iron out the money issues. Lastly, you don't pay for TF2 maps (just like you're not forced to pay for the new hats or weapons), but Valve compensated them with huge checks each time a map has been purchased, long before the Mann Co. Store even begun to exist. I'm sure the initial purchase of Cold Stream will be handled the same way, with smaller increments being paid through purchased Xbox titles. If the DLC was intended to be charged for PC users as the only means of obtaining it, Valve would have definitely mentioned it on the blog, as any major changes to the general flow of the game (mutations, community campaigns) have been mentioned, and one as big as this would have definitely been mentioned.[/QUOTE] Don't use logic with them, they don't understand it.

[QUOTE=Wowza!;28153198]Not really, since the store is completely optional and all of the gameplay affecting items and most of the cosmetic items can be obtained the normal way. A better analogy would be receiving a ketchup packet with your plain burger, then complaining that you don't like the taste of ketchup and that your burger is ruined.[/QUOTE] If you look on the burger you can still see the original TF2 box with the update. You can just eat that part, but the rest is still there. You can try to ignore it, but I doubt you can ignore a pile of shit in your burger.

[QUOTE=ShazzyFreak0;28158386]If you look on the burger you can still see the original TF2 box with the update. You can just eat that part, but the rest is still there. You can try to ignore it, but I doubt you can ignore a pile of shit in your burger.[/QUOTE] But it's not [I]on[/I] the burger. The store doesn't have any impact on the actual gameplay. Complaining about the store just because it exists would be like getting a ketchup packet with your burger and complaining that you're being forced to eat the burger with ketchup.

Wow, this is the most incorrectly one sided headline I have ever seen.

[QUOTE=Wowza!;28172746]But it's not [I]on[/I] the burger. The store doesn't have any impact on the actual gameplay. Complaining about the store just because it exists would be like getting a ketchup packet with your burger and complaining that you're being forced to eat the burger with ketchup.[/QUOTE] You order a burger without ketchup but they jizz ketchup all over the burger anyway. You never asked for it, but you got no choice. Either eat it all or don't eat anything.

[QUOTE=Daedulas;28139715]Valve, Really? Fan-made mod for DLC :colbert:[/QUOTE] Valve, Really? Fan-made mod as game? :colbert: (Counter-Strike, Garry's Mod, etc.)

[QUOTE=Wowza!;28153811]None of that really has anything to do with the actual gameplay. If the store didn't exist, people would still be obsessed with/whining about hats. Also, I think that most people aren't complaining that the campaigns will ruin the game, but more about the fact that this DLC appears to involve zero effort whatsoever.[/QUOTE] I guess, but what annoys me more is the L4D1 campaigns. The ketchup is... being scraped out of another half-eaten burger? :v:

why is DLC's so populair nowdays

[QUOTE=blown25;28178069]why is DLC's so populair nowdays[/QUOTE] Because it's a good way to resurrect half-dead game

[QUOTE=johan_sm;28179069]Because it's [b]the only way[/b] way to resurrect half-dead game[/QUOTE] Fixed.

[QUOTE=Lordgeorge16;28179112]Fixed.[/QUOTE] Remember these things called expansions, that actually added tons of new content. Yeah these things did exist.

[QUOTE=johan_sm;28179497]Remember these things called expansions, that actually added tons of new content. Yeah these things did exist.[/QUOTE] expansions are pointless these days, and they were rather annoying to deal with anyways [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] and having a downloadable expansion is the same thing as DLC anyways

If this is anything like 2 Evil Eyes it's probably gonna blow. I don't know why people overate the fuck out of 2 Evil Eyes. I see nothing but people praise the damn thing but it was Horrible. Please tell me i'm not the only sane one here. Friend of mine said only reason it got so much praise cause the author deleted all the negative comments so it looked like everyone liked it. Figures.

[QUOTE=Lazor;28184385]expansions are pointless these days, and they were rather annoying to deal with anyways [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] and having a downloadable expansion is the same thing as DLC anyways[/QUOTE] Expansions were fucking amazing. NWN or TES expansions were very fun.

[QUOTE=SeymourGuado;28184464]If this is anything like 2 Evil Eyes it's probably gonna blow. I don't know why people overate the fuck out of 2 Evil Eyes. I see nothing but people praise the damn thing but it was Horrible. Please tell me i'm not the only sane one here.[/QUOTE] Read the thread, virtually everyone agrees with you. I can't be assed to take anyone seriously on L4DMaps.com, they have the mental capacity of YouTubers, and besides it's likely that a vast majority of the people rating the campaign 90+ are his friends and/or him creating fake accounts just to boost his rating. It's kind of sick to see that guy get so much praise and respect, normally I don't let dumb things like this get to me but it really is frustrating. [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] Oh and not to mention he deleted my review. I gave him a rating of like 35 and nicely explained to him that most things in the campaign felt out of place and bad, I gave him some constructive criticism too, but I guess he didn't want my 35 rating tainting his high 90's. [editline]21st February 2011[/editline] Also a recent comment on his campaign [QUOTE]pea green you are obviously retarded, campaigns for l4d arent about how well it looks, its mostly about gameplay. the reason valve choose don(in my opinion) is the fact that he has some really good idea's for versus campaigns, he knows where a good panic event, cruchendo event or so on should be placed, and 2ee is probably the best custom campaign to play versus on. tho there are some other better looking campaigns(dead before dawn) there are complete utter shite to play versus on and thats why kids i think they choose him ;).... all the other haters, dont piss yourself in jealousy cause he's achieved something you never will, except for me cause i am awesome![/QUOTE] Ok I admit I never played his campaign on versus, maybe that's why it's so great, and I agree looks aren't what makes the game but instead it's gameplay, that doesn't apply very well to a [i]campaign[/i] however, where looks are a very important factor. I read on though and noticed how he's pretty much just using the jealousy ass kissing thing and cringed with rage. Still can't take anyone there seriously, but like I said maybe the versus is what makes it great. Still not worth anything higher than a 70 though.

[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;28141056]You guys fail to realize that Microsoft MAKES Valve have all DLC payable. It's the reason why console TF2 doesn't get content updates.[/QUOTE] Well, that and 512MB RAM/VRAM total means they can't render all the stupid fucking hats.