Study: Exposing Kids To 10 Hours Of Science A Year Makes Them Smarter
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Language and math are two subjects that play such an enormous role in science. It makes sense that when children learn science, they learn the math and language skills that go with. I think students should be induced to math from science completely. Math is fucking boring, but science is fun and learning the tools to solve scientific problems and communicate scientific ideas through math is actually fun and rewarding.
Maybe it's time our school systems decided to change their policy regarding math and science?
[QUOTE=Van-man;38135107]replace those shitty live-action shows on disney channels with something from NatGeo[/QUOTE]
Ancient Aliens.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;38135143]Maybe it's time our school systems decided to change their policy regarding math and science?[/QUOTE]
and also everything else
The title makes it sound like they expose them to science in the same way that one might get exposed to radiation.
"Right, strap little Timmy down; and fetch me that lead box of science"
[QUOTE=Kalibos;38135480]and also everything else[/QUOTE]
Science and math suffer the worst out of typical school subjects. It's really just sad that it's come to that, but it was true. I haven't met but maybe 3 people in my life who enjoy math.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;38135163]Ancient Aliens.[/QUOTE]
Still beats those vile Live-action shows on Disney.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;38135498]Your ability to spot bullshit would improve 10 fold.[/QUOTE]
Probably not. Depends on what you mean by "bible study", but if its a traditional bible study, putting bibles in front of kids doesn't make them critical of it.
[QUOTE=monkey11;38135691]Science and math suffer the worst out of typical school subjects. It's really just sad that it's come to that, but it was true. I haven't met but maybe 3 people in my life who enjoy math.[/QUOTE]
The problem with math is that it's [B]SO DAMN BORING![/B]
Same with most people who happen to be good at it.
I've only met [B]ONE[/B] teacher who happened to make math interesting and inspiring, out of a tsunami of horrible and sterile one's.
The fact that the Curriculum for math is also boring doesn't make it any better.
I always knew that reading the [B]SCIENCE[/B]-magazine every month from ever since I was able to read had a positive impact.
I'm exposed to 1200-1400 a year and I can't tie my shoelaces, I call bullshit.
Anyway all learning adds something to you, obviously learning to think logically and mathematically will develop your brain.
[QUOTE=acds;38135896]I'm exposed to 1200-1400 a year and I can't tie my shoelaces, I call bullshit.
Anyway all learning adds something to you, obviously learning to think logically and mathematically will develop your brain.[/QUOTE]
You [I]might[/I] have a mental handicap.
[QUOTE=Van-man;38135720]The problem with math is that it's [B]SO DAMN BORING![/B]
Same with most people who happen to be good at it.
I've only met [B]ONE[/B] teacher who happened to make math interesting and inspiring, out of a tsunami of horrible and sterile one's.
The fact that the Curriculum for math is also boring doesn't make it any better.[/QUOTE]
See, but we need to be able to get kids just be excited to be learning. Learning anything should be exciting, and that's what should keep math accessible. I for one found Calculus pretty awesome, because I felt like I just gained a huge skill set. Being able to find the rate at which a vase fills, the area of an oddly shaped lake, or whatever. It felt like I was actually able to figure out things that I couldn't before. That sort of mind set should be encouraged in all math and science classes. They should also be more closely related. Make basic algebra classes learn a lot of basic physics. Whatever, as long as we give every math problem an application.
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[QUOTE=acds;38135896]I'm exposed to 1200-1400 a year and I can't tie my shoelaces, I call bullshit.
Anyway all learning adds something to you, obviously learning to think logically and mathematically will develop your brain.[/QUOTE]
Couldn't Einstein not tie his shoes either?
[QUOTE=Van-man;38135720]The problem with math is that it's [B]SO DAMN BORING![/B]
Same with most people who happen to be good at it.
I've only met [B]ONE[/B] teacher who happened to make math interesting and inspiring, out of a tsunami of horrible and sterile one's.
The fact that the Curriculum for math is also boring doesn't make it any better.[/QUOTE]
Every single one of my math teachers were assholes, from elementary school to college. I have no joy at all for the subject.
[QUOTE=Irespawnoften;38133965]When people say 'I didn't know science was fun' I want to punch them in the face. Its 20-fucking-12, almost everything you use, touch, and look at is a product of science. How ignorant do you have to be to not, at the very least, appreciate science?
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Also, teaching kids through hands on and visual aids instead of feeding them condensed information for tests is the best way to do it, who'd have guessed :downs:[/QUOTE]
I have a BA in Physics and I can tell you, most scientific work is NOT fun, it's data and math grinding.
[QUOTE=Van-man;38135720]The problem with math is that it's [B]SO DAMN BORING![/B]
Same with most people who happen to be good at it.
I've only met [B]ONE[/B] teacher who happened to make math interesting and inspiring, out of a tsunami of horrible and sterile one's.
The fact that the Curriculum for math is also boring doesn't make it any better.[/QUOTE]
It could be good if math classes in school would ever so often have some time dedicated to showing examples of what all that math can be applied to.
Like giving the example that the students favorite videogames could not have been made without extensive knowledge in math.
Or their phones, or large structures or any advanced mechanics.
Watching a single natgeo/discovery science documentary per week would improve student morale AND teach them stuff
I find "How It's Made" impossibly interesting, add that one series about the Universe narrated by Morgan Freeman and some David Attenborough stuff and you're set.
[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;38135991]It could be good if math classes in school would ever so often have some time dedicated to showing examples of what all that math can be applied to.
Like giving the example that the students favorite videogames could not have been made without extensive knowledge in math.
Or their phones, or large structures or any advanced mechanics.[/QUOTE]
Problem is, everyone have different preferences and interests.
giving math examples that suits all of them is impossible without diving the classes up.
[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;38135991]It could be good if math classes in school would ever so often have some time dedicated to showing examples of what all that math can be applied to.
Like giving the example that the students favorite videogames could not have been made without extensive knowledge in math.
Or their phones, or large structures or any advanced mechanics.[/QUOTE]
I asked a teacher what an use for polynomials in everyday life or a non-math related career was, he said he'd get back to me on that
still hasn't
[QUOTE=latin_geek;38136040]Watching a single natgeo/discovery science documentary per week would improve student morale AND teach them stuff
I find "How It's Made" impossibly interesting, add that one series about the Universe narrated by Morgan Freeman and some David Attenborough stuff and you're set.[/QUOTE]
To be honest I think all these "How it's made" "documentaries" do more bad than good. They make people think they are educating themselves and millions of people feel more educated because they have seen how the machine presses twinkies into the packaging. They don't know why and what for and under what circumstances, it's redundant knowledge.
The whole edutainment deal is a double edged sword and I am not quite sure about it.
Truth of reality: "how it's made" does not answer the question "how is it made?"
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[QUOTE=latin_geek;38136073]I asked a teacher what an use for polynomials in everyday life or a non-math related career was, he said he'd get back to me on that
still hasn't[/QUOTE]
Economy, Social Studies, Art, they are all math related. Be it statistics( social studies is 1/3rd statistics) or logic theory.
The question itself is pretty redundant, you asked "what use is math in jobs where math is of no use"
[QUOTE=Falubii;38134192]I got to do some science experiments with cub scouts the other day. They seemed to enjoy it.[/QUOTE]
I need to think of some experiments to do with a bunch of scouts with no attention span. Maybe involving explosions would help.
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[QUOTE=yawmwen;38135143]Language and math are two subjects that play such an enormous role in science. It makes sense that when children learn science, they learn the math and language skills that go with. I think students should be induced to math from science completely. Math is fucking boring, but science is fun and learning the tools to solve scientific problems and communicate scientific ideas through math is actually fun and rewarding.
Maybe it's time our school systems decided to change their policy regarding math and science?[/QUOTE]
Am I the only one who enjoys maths for maths' sake? Applying it to science is fun and all, but there's no feeling like solving a hard problem, the maths I apply to science is normally data crunching.
I get two hours of chemistry every day, I'm gonna be brilliant.
[QUOTE=Killuah;38136158]To be honest I think all these "How it's made" "documentaries" do more bad than good. They make people think they are educating themselves and millions of people feel more educated because they have seen how the machine presses twinkies into the packaging. They don't know why and what for and under what circumstances, it's redundant knowledge.
The whole edutainment deal is a double edged sword and I am not quite sure about it.
Truth of reality: "how it's made" does not answer the question "how is it made?"[/QUOTE]
I think you're reading [I]way[/I] too deep into that, the question isn't "why is it made" and the show is all about how stuff is made from the raw materials to the packaged, finished product. The show does a good job at showing that, they list the materials by name most of the time and explain how every machine involved in the process works, what it does and why it is used.
At this point we're just throwing kids at science and seeing the results.
[QUOTE=Novangel;38136578]At this point we're just throwing kids at science and seeing the results.[/QUOTE]
Which is a step above sheltering them from science and fearing the results. I call it progress.
[QUOTE=Novangel;38136578]At this point we're just [B]throwing kids at science and seeing the results.[/B][/QUOTE]
Sounds like fun :v:
[QUOTE=Kingy_ME;38136199]Am I the only one who enjoys maths for maths' sake?[/QUOTE]
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While it makes them smarter, 10 hours of [b][i]science[/i][/b] a YEAR does not make one significantly smarter.
I kind of like the idea of (briefly) teaching science at like highschool or something (physics mainly, chemistry perhaps), however when I finish my degree I primarily want to go into research, so it'd be a bit difficult to do so.
While it might be slightly dangerous, I figured a fun way to engage students would be to like... walk into your first class with them with a glass of water, place your glass of water on your desk on which a lit Bunsen burner is sitting (away from the students of course), start talking, pick up your glass of water, take a sip from the water, and all of a sudden spray the water out of your mouth in mist form and into the flame of the Bunsen burner producing coloured flames (have like a small amount of potassium or lithium or something dissolved into it so the flame will turn an interesting colour).
I think one of the main issues kids have (especially in high school) is that they see science as something that weird recluses do, and not fun or exciting people (whereas my entire time at uni has shown me that it's essentially the opposite - most of my lecturers are really cool and exciting, and there's only a few of the really weird, socially awkward, recluse types). Pull a little stunt like that in your first class with students and it might be enough to grab their attention from there on out.
10 hours a YEAR? Isn't that too little?
Wait, how come this is a study? Do a lot of places not have science as a mandatory part of the curriculum?
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