[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;26513932]no, but the lesser evil will lead to the greater evil, it doesn't alleviate the problem, it exacerbates it.
the "it's the lesser evil" argument only works when you [b]have[/b] to choose between the lesser and greater evil.[/QUOTE]
Current evidence shows the lesser evils leads to more of the lesser evil and actually less of the greater evil if the lesser evil isn't made illegal.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;26513932]no, but the lesser evil will lead to the greater evil, it doesn't alleviate the problem, it exacerbates it.
the "it's the lesser evil" argument only works when you [B]have[/B] to choose between the lesser and greater evil.[/QUOTE]
In this case, choosing the lesser evil delays and/or lessens the chance of the greater evil, and you can't really lose anything by choosing the lesser evil.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;26513951]Say what you will, but I simply cannot condone giving warm, rose-colored acceptance to people who think of men as sexual objects, and this is a position I will not budge on.[/QUOTE]
Pity how you feel that way of most females.
[quote=imasillypiggy;26514025]but silly is my middle name[/quote]
HOLY FUCKBALLS :psyboom:
[QUOTE=CAPSMAN!;26513997]Did you seriously just compare fucking underage children to blacks marrying whites?
You can go fuck all the underage children you want, but don't bitch at me when "SHES MUTCH BRIGHTER THAN A 21 YEAR OLD" doesn't work in court.[/QUOTE]
do you understand what im saying? yes I know its illegal but I dont see that much wrong (or at least to the point were it should be illegal) with a person dating an older person, even if the other person is over 18
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;26513902]Yeah, I'm clearly in the wrong here. I'll change my stance to adhere to the popular argument: pedophilia rocks, everybody should get off to child porn.
I'm sorry, I try my best to be open-minded, and to extend social liberties to everybody, but I will never be able to tolerate pedophilia. Say what you will, but I simply cannot condone giving warm, rose-colored acceptance to people who think of children as sexual objects, and this is a position I will not budge on.[/QUOTE]
Who said anything about warm acceptance? Who is advocating 'Hug a misunderstood paedophile' day here? All we're trying to do is drill a bit of common sense in people who're overwhelmed with what the media and popular culture say - restoring a bit of cold, hard science and logic.
No offence, but people who plainly refuse to budge even though they cannot argue against the motion in any way apart from 'Well I think it's wrong!' is the reason homosexuality has taken hundreds of generations to become acceptable in society. Do we want paedophiles molesting our children? No. That is why child molestation will always be illegal. I just believe you should be able to fantasize about what you wish, and not be penalised for being an honest citizen - who's never harmed anyone -, the freedom to think and look at naked Japanese loli's.
[QUOTE=imadaman;26514041]Pity how you feel that way of most females.[/QUOTE]
wat? I like females
[QUOTE=CAPSMAN!;26513615]Let's consider the thought that 21 year old dumfucks have had 7 years more than 14 year old dumbfucks to stop being dumbfucks. It's a considerable amount of time.[/QUOTE]
Which is why age is used in consent laws. The older a person is, optimistically they should be more likely to have grown out of being dumbfucks.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;26514062]do you understand what im saying? yes I know its illegal but I dont see that much wrong (or at least to the point were it should be illegal) with a person dating an older person, even if the other person is over 18[/QUOTE]
Okay. You don't see what's wrong with it.
I find that idea disgusting, and troublesome, as you put doubt to a law that is generally accepted by civilized countries and their population.
[QUOTE=CAPSMAN!;26514115]Okay. You don't see what's wrong with it.
I find that idea disgusting, and troublesome, as you put doubt to a law that is generally accepted by civilized countries and their population.[/QUOTE]
being accepted doesnt make it right or else weed would be evil.
I do find a 18 and a 14 year old having sex nasty the same as I do seeing 2 guys having sex but if both want to do it then I dont care
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;26513902]Yeah, I'm clearly in the wrong here. I'll change my stance to adhere to the popular argument: pedophilia rocks, everybody should get off to child porn.
I'm sorry, I try my best to be open-minded, and to extend social liberties to everybody, but I will never be able to tolerate pedophilia. Say what you will, but I simply cannot condone giving warm, rose-colored acceptance to people who think of children as sexual objects, and this is a position I will not budge on.[/QUOTE]
You do realise there's a difference between a paedophile and a child rapist, right? Infact most child rapists are nutters who get off on dominating people and have no real attraction to children.
No one's saying "Oh, look at the poor paedos, they're so misunderstood." We're saying, isn't it better that a paedo jacks it to a drawing of a little girl rather than pictures of actual little girls getting raped.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;26514157]being accepted doesnt make it right or else weed would be evil.
I do find a 18 and a 14 year old having sex nasty the same as I do seeing 2 guys having sex but if both want to do it then I dont care[/QUOTE]
How the fuck did homosexuality come into the picture?
[QUOTE=CAPSMAN!;26514037]In this case, choosing the lesser evil delays and/or lessens the chance of the greater evil,[/QUOTE]
no, it doesn't. That's the point I'm making. Indulging in fantasies simply makes them stronger, it won't make them go away, just like any other addiction.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;26514164]You do realise there's a difference between a paedophile and a child rapist, right?[/QUOTE]
Most people don't. It's inbred in society. You'know, like how wrong it is to get excited about a gun you want to buy, or thinking that Communism might be a good idea, or having a fetish for cars, or loving computers and games. It's all 'wrong' for dumb reasons.
[QUOTE=CAPSMAN!;26514202]How the fuck did homosexuality come into the picture?[/QUOTE]
because they are both things that involve a sexual fetish that people see as wrong
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[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;26514218]no, it doesn't. That's the point I'm making. Indulging in fantasies simply makes them stronger, it won't make them go away, just like any other addiction.[/QUOTE]
people who watch tentical porn will then grow tenticals and rape people. but srsly I liuke shooting people in videogames but I dont do it in real life even though it could be fun
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;26514218]no, it doesn't. That's the point I'm making. Indulging in fantasies simply makes them stronger, it won't make them go away, just like any other addiction.[/QUOTE]
No it doesn't. Indulging in fantasies is fun, but most people don't live inside fantasies. When you last had sex, did you want to have sex more and more and more with each passing session? Did you end up having sex all month without thinking "You'know, sex is great and all, but I don't feel like it right now". Millions of people watch lesbians on Youporn, do you keep watching lesbians until it controls your life?
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;26514084]wat? I like females[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;26513951]I simply cannot condone giving warm, rose-colored acceptance to people who think of men as sexual objects, and this is a position I will not budge on.[/QUOTE]
:raisebrow:
[QUOTE=imadaman;26514279]:raisebrow:[/QUOTE]
It was a response/joke to someone and i dont see what your getting at
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;26514238]because they are both things that involve a sexual fetish that people see as wrong[/QUOTE]
One person having sex with a mentally, physically and age wise inferior person. | Two persons of the same sex engaging in sexual activities/showing attraction.
Sorry, I don't see the connection.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;26514238]
people who watch tentical porn will then grow tenticals and rape people[/QUOTE]
Japan is already doing this. :v:
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;26514273]No it doesn't. Indulging in fantasies is fun, but most people don't live inside fantasies. When you last had sex, did you want to have sex more and more and more with each passing session? Did you end up having sex all month without thinking "You'know, sex is great and all, but I don't feel like it right now". Millions of people watch lesbians on Youporn, do you keep watching lesbians until it controls your life?[/QUOTE]
Lesbians ruined my life.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;26514218]no, it doesn't. That's the point I'm making. Indulging in fantasies simply makes them stronger, it won't make them go away, just like any other addiction.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, except the STATISTICS sya otherwise. Stop using your opinions as the final word. It isn't.
[QUOTE=CAPSMAN!;26514305]One person having sex with a mentally, physically and age wise inferior person. | Two person of the same sex engaging in sexual activities/showing attraction.
Sorry, I don't see the connection.
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so it should be illegal to have sex with dumb midgets
[QUOTE=CAPSMAN!;26514305]Lesbians ruined my life.[/QUOTE]
I can't see your reply, a video of lesbians is playing. Please repeat.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;26514348]so it should be illegal to have sex with dumb midgets[/QUOTE]
Dumb, underage midgets :eng101:
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;26514273]No it doesn't. Indulging in fantasies is fun, but most people don't live inside fantasies. When you last had sex, did you want to have sex more and more and more with each passing session? Did you end up having sex all month without thinking "You'know, sex is great and all, but I don't feel like it right now"[/QUOTE]
It most definitely is that way for some people. For a pedophile, indulging in fake child pornography triggers the reward centers of the brain and simply amplifies their desires by associating a psychological reward with it. It doesn't suppress their desire any more than beer suppresses the desire to drink more in an alcoholic.
It's videogame violence all over again.
[QUOTE=CAPSMAN!;26514305]Lesbians ruined my life.[/QUOTE]
Feminists! :argh:
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;26514345]Yeah, except the STATISTICS sya otherwise. Stop using your opinions as the final word. It isn't.[/QUOTE]
point me to these statistics i am certain they exist and mean what they think you mean
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;26514375]It most definitely is that way for some people. For a pedophile, indulging in fake child pornography triggers the reward centers of the brain and simply amplifies their desires by associating a psychological reward with it. It doesn't suppress their desire any more than beer suppresses the desire to drink more in an alcoholic.[/QUOTE]
Do you have a psychology degree? If not, your argument is moot.
[QUOTE=CAPSMAN!;26514373]Dumb, underage midgets :eng101:[/QUOTE]
but isnt the midget physically and mentally inferior? and does that mean dumb midgets can rape all they want because they are the inferior ones?
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;26514375]It most definitely is that way for some people. For a pedophile, indulging in fake child pornography triggers the reward centers of the brain and simply amplifies their desires by associating a psychological reward with it. It doesn't suppress their desire any more than beer suppresses the desire to drink more in an alcoholic.[/QUOTE]
Your observation is incorrect, drinking beer to relieve your urge for wanting to drink beer is not similar to fapping to lolicon to relieve the urge to have sex with children.
How about this analogy, you fucking love beer. But beer is illegal.
So you go and binge on lager instead.
Or you love being intoxicated, and your favourite way of becoming that way is crack cocaine, but it's illegal, so you have a choice between beer and lager, beer brewers are harmed in the making of beer for some reason, so it's banned, lager production has no victims so it's made legal to sate the desires of people who want cocaine.
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