Flag Vandalism Mars Memorial Day in Several States
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[QUOTE=Tucks;22307993]All those saying I'm being a retard by claiming people make assumptions about the English flag and Racism - it has been used by groups like the national front as a banner & symbol - some people view all people who fly it as racists. Said people are closed minded idiots, but they still exist.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_England#Perceived_association_with_the_far_right[/url][/QUOTE]
That's really sad that people associate their national flag to a certain political party, let alone the BNP...
Mars Memorial Day
[QUOTE=Number-41;22307275]HURF DURF LETS INSULT ALLAH BY DRAWING HIM WITH A DICK IN HIS MOUTH
If you allow freedom of speech, then be prepared for stuff like this...
Don't get me wrong I also did Draw Mohammed Day[/QUOTE]
when did I ever say I support insulting any religion or anyone for that matter?
or are you simply implying that's what all americans do during their daily lives?
[QUOTE=acds;22308300]Ok they burned/ruined some flags which weren't even their property, but aren't people over-reacting to this quite a bit?[/QUOTE]
It's the day they chose to do it that really is pissing people off, it's a political message, and an insult on a day that's supposed to above politics and current events.
I'm not saying you support it, there's a shit ton of people who do though.
It's a dick move, but move on you know. Charge them for vandalism. Case closed
This is what happens when you use "DOWN WITH THE GOVERNMENT!" as your campaign slogan.
[QUOTE=Alba Meira;22308678]This is what happens when you use "DOWN WITH THE GOVERNMENT!" as your campaign slogan.[/QUOTE]
wat
[QUOTE=Alba Meira;22308678]This is what happens when you use "DOWN WITH THE GOVERNMENT!" as your campaign slogan.[/QUOTE]
I highly doubt opponents of the administration would ever consider burning the flag. You're obviously not American.
My first thought: "You can't burn flags in space."
[QUOTE=Alba Meira;22308678]This is what happens when you use "DOWN WITH THE GOVERNMENT!" as your campaign slogan.[/QUOTE]
if you're implying it's right wing people that's most likely wrong, probably just shithead kids who think they're being rebellious.
This is why I love the danish flag, burning it is the only respectful way of destroying it :v:
[QUOTE=Crimor;22309312]This is why I love the danish flag, burning it is the only respectful way of destroying it :v:[/QUOTE]
Actually, in the US, the way to destroy an old, worn flag is to burn it.
[I]but[/I]
You must must first cut the union away from the stripes so it's no longer considered "a flag". Then you burn the two pieces separately.
That's so messed up. Society...
It would have been a shame if it was the flag of a veteran that had died, but they do not usually put those out I think. Even if you do not care for a flag it is vandalism and that is not right.
This country was founded upon slavery and kicking others out. They should honor the sacrifice of the soldiers who took lives when vietnam invaded us.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;22309466]Actually, in the US, the way to destroy an old, worn flag is to burn it.
[I]but[/I]
You must must first cut the union away from the stripes so it's no longer considered "a flag". Then you burn the two pieces separately.[/QUOTE]
kinda weird
[QUOTE=IStanI;22314424]This country was founded upon slavery and kicking others out. They should honor the sacrifice of the soldiers who took lives when vietnam invaded us.[/QUOTE]
You're a douche.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;22314488]kinda weird[/QUOTE]
I suppose. But that's how the ceremony goes.
And it's done by the Veteran's Association, I believe. If you have an old, worn flag, you mail it to them and they'll take care of it, for free.
I hate patriotism and couldn't give to shits about what people do with our flag.
What I do not like, is assholes who decided it's funny to desecrate someones property.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;22314583]You're a douche.
I suppose. But that's how the ceremony goes.
And it's done by the Veteran's Association, I believe. If you have an old, worn flag, you mail it to them and they'll take care of it, for free.[/QUOTE]
There's two sides, one side only thinks of the positive side of america's establishment (ignorant patriots), the other (mine) only looks at the negative achievements, because negative achievements seem to be america's leading edge at the moment
In all the years of wars, no freedom has been defended or threatened on our own soil at the extent that would justify america's imperialism. They call them war heroes, we call them murderers.
Slightly off topic but since you were arguing about it.
In the UK a pub for instance, is no longer aloud to fly any flags.
Public servants can't wear support our troops bands or show support towards nationality.
This is a law.
Plus it's memorial day for godsake, in my mind you're respecting the men who laid down their lives who in most cases have nothing to do with the politics.
[QUOTE=IStanI;22314716]There's two sides, one side only thinks of the positive side of america's establishment (ignorant patriots), the other (mine) only looks at the negative achievements, because negative achievements seem to be america's leading edge at the moment
In all the years of wars, no freedom has been defended or threatened on our own soil at the extent that would justify america's imperialism. They call them war heroes, we call them murderers.[/QUOTE]
You're just as ignorant as the other side. You should see [I]both[/I] ends of history, not just one end or the other of your choosing.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;22314767]You're just as ignorant as the other side. You should see [I]both[/I] ends of history, not just one end or the other of your choosing.[/QUOTE]
I am looking at both sides, I'll be sure to mention a noteworthy achievement of war when I see one. Imposing "democracy" and establishing multimedia companies is not a notable achievement, rather an imperialistic one.
[QUOTE=IStanI;22314794]I am looking at both sides, I'll be sure to mention a noteworthy achievement of war when I see one. Imposing "democracy" and establishing multimedia companies is not a notable achievement, rather an imperialistic one.[/QUOTE]
You do realize that the men and women who have fought in wars have [B]nothing[/B] to do with the politics that sent them there?
[QUOTE=Tucks;22307993]All those saying I'm being a retard by claiming people make assumptions about the English flag and Racism - it has been used by groups like the national front as a banner & symbol - some people view all people who fly it as racists. Said people are closed minded idiots, but they still exist.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_England#Perceived_association_with_the_far_right[/url][/QUOTE]
I think most of us were thinking of the Union Jack.
Gee, it's just a flag, it should be deault with the same as if they had torched any other cloth, so it should be "vandalism", not some bullshit "vandalism and an insult to our country". It's hardly an insult to America to burn a flag, it's actually patriotic, since it's the right to burn a flag like that that makes the country so great.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;22314826]You do realize that the men and women who have fought in wars have [B]nothing[/B] to do with the politics that sent them there?[/QUOTE]
If your speaking about previous wars, they were drafted or they joined under willing ignorance. Today, it is pure ignorance.
There is always a choice. You cannot be forced to bomb a country, it is under your choice that you obey to do so.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;22314826]You do realize that the men and women who have fought in wars have [B]nothing[/B] to do with the politics that sent them there?[/QUOTE]
And it's a goddamn shame that people have some sort of distorted belief that they should disrespect those who have fallen for their country just because of the political decisions behind the wars they fought in.
[QUOTE=IStanI;22314865]If your speaking about previous wars, they were drafted or they joined under willing ignorance. Today, it is pure ignorance.
There is always a choice. You cannot be forced to bomb a country, it is under your choice that you obey to do so.[/QUOTE]
Well the government could target the poor, raise them on propaganda, offer the chance to change their situation, break them down and reprogram them into a killing machine, threaten to put a bullet in their head if they commit treason, and then release them back into the country with no concern over their well-being until it looks good politically.
[QUOTE=IStanI;22314865]If your speaking about previous wars, they were drafted or they joined under willing ignorance. Today, it is pure ignorance.
There is always a choice. You cannot be forced to bomb a country, it is under your choice that you obey to do so.[/QUOTE]
Let me rephrase my previous statement about you being douche.
You're an ignorant douche.
