• Dragon Age 2 Removed From Steam
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[QUOTE=RichyZ;31361025]you don't need to run the program to run the game sweetcheeks, same with greenmangaming, and i'm pretty sure good old games too[/QUOTE] GoG is DRM free and many of those Ubisoft games and such don;'t have DRM on steam. [editline]27th July 2011[/editline] Wait! What the fuck is the Sony logo doing there?!
Right now it really looks like EA wants more control over what's added to their game's post release and more exclusives for their new storefront. Or maybe fewer big name titles for Steam's store. And blaming Steam's ToS is a nice cover for them to remove their big name games from Steam while keeping them on Origin.
[QUOTE=Swilly;31361015]Wow, you really think people care? You didn't see the article that BF3 preorders were beating CoD preorders did you?[/QUOTE] Uh yes? You do realize Steam is 70% of the market and that Steam's "pre-order now!" ads are what make games sell right? Lots of people won't know it exists without it on Steam.
Thank you EA for making Steam better for getting Valve to remove DA2, now I don't need to see that piece of shit whenever i open Steam again.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;31360670][IMG]http://steamunpowered.eu/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/gaming.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] For a game like Battlefield 3? Worth it
[QUOTE=Generous Feller;31361303]For a game like Battlefield 3? Worth it[/QUOTE]Not by a longshot.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;31361219]Uh yes? You do realize Steam is 70% of the market and that Steam's "pre-order now!" ads are what make games sell right? Lots of people won't know it exists without it on Steam.[/QUOTE] That's really sad....and after being told this I now support origin.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;31360670][IMG]http://steamunpowered.eu/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/gaming.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] I don't know half of those services (oh, they're fake), however I think it is safe to say that most of them don't actually require being open to run a game. For example, GFW doesn't need to be running to play a LIVE game, and Origin also does not require to be open to play any game linked to Origin. Should also be mentioned that Origin won't even be necessary for Battlefield 3 no matter where you get it (if you buy off Origin, I'm sure you can uninstall Origin afterwards). That is assuming Battlefield 3 will be like Alice: Madness Returns, which would make sense. I installed Origin for the sake of it (I purchased Alice at a retailer), and Alice does not require Origin to be open to be played (although it shows up in Origin because the installation required linking to an EA account). Also, wouldn't it seem a bit stupid to have that many programs running at once? Say if there is a game that requires a client running, why not just have the client closed when you're not actually going to be playing that game? It's like keeping Microsoft Word open all day and impacting the system performance although you aren't actually doing anything with any documents.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;31361552]I don't know half of those services, however I think it is safe to say that most of them don't actually require being open to run a game. For example, GFW doesn't need to be running to play a LIVE game, and Origin also does not require to be open to play any game linked to Origin. Should also be mentioned that Origin won't even be necessary for Battlefield 3 no matter where you get it (if you buy off Origin, I'm sure you can uninstall Origin afterwards). That is assuming Battlefield 3 will be like Alice: Madness Returns, which would make sense. I installed Origin for the sake of it (I purchased Alice at a retailer), and Alice does not require Origin to be open to be played (although it shows up in Origin because the installation required linking to an EA account). Also, wouldn't it seem a bit stupid to have that many programs running at once? Say if there is a game that requires a client running, why not just have the client closed when you're not actually going to be playing that game? It's like keeping Microsoft Word open all day and impacting the system performance although you aren't actually doing anything with any documents.[/QUOTE] They don't exist. Don't you guys get it? Damn.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;31361552]I don't know half of those services, however I think it is safe to say that most of them don't actually require being open to run a game. For example, GFW doesn't need to be running to play a LIVE game, and Origin also does not require to be open to play any game purchased off of Origin. Should also be mentioned that Origin won't even be necessary for Battlefield 3 no matter where you get it (if you buy off Origin, I'm sure you can uninstall Origin afterwards). That is assuming Battlefield 3 will be like Alice: Madness Returns, which would make sense. Also, wouldn't it seem a bit stupid to have that many programs running at once? Say if there is a game that requires a client running, why not just have the client closed when you're not actually going to be playing that game?[/QUOTE] No you can't uninstall it as you have to log in once in awhile to make sure your games don't get deleted, if logging in game doesn't count towards that then yeah, you have to keep it installed. Also those programs don't even exist, the point of that picture is that if Origin is succesful then other studios: Take 2, Sony, THQ, Ubisoft, Square Enix (Taken from that picture) and others are going to do the exact same thing where if you want to play someones game you are going to have to install their own client to play it.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;31361381]Not by a longshot.[/QUOTE] As much as I hated to do it, I preordered Battlefield 3 on Origin, simply because I want to play Battlefield 3. I'm only hurting myself ( And DICE, one of my favorite developers ) by not doing so.
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;31361603]No you can't uninstall it as you have to log in once in awhile to make sure your games don't get deleted, if logging in game doesn't count towards that then yeah, you have to keep it installed. Also those programs don't even exist, the point of that picture is that if Origin is succesful then other studios: Take 2, Sony, THQ, Ubisoft, Square Enix (Taken from that picture) and others are going to do the exact same thing where if you want to play someones game you are going to have to install their own client to play it.[/QUOTE] Origin accounts are the same as EA accounts, create one for playing EA games online and you'll be able to use the Origin client as well. Create one for Origin and you'll be able to play EA games online. I'm sure with this incident involving the two-year period and deleting content won't affect people who log on with their EA account, whether it be through an EA site or through a game. Also, maybe the other publishers are happy with Valve providing digital distribution, which is why each of those publishers don't have clients of their own. Not everyone thinks the same, same goes for publishers. EA just wants better control over their product, at least you don't actually need Origin to play the games you buy. Also, wouldn't people have said the same thing about publishers making their own clients when Valve released Steam? [editline]27th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=TheCloak;31361679]As much as I hated to do it, I preordered Battlefield 3 on Origin, simply because I want to play Battlefield 3. I'm only hurting myself ( And DICE, one of my favorite developers ) by not doing so.[/QUOTE] Why not get it through Direct2Drive, or one of the many other distribution services that offer Battlefield 3?
[QUOTE=Antdawg;31361682]at least you don't actually need Origin to play the games you buy.[/QUOTE] you forget that most of FP is too lazy to leave their houses to buy a game retail, which is why they rely on steam for every aspect of their lives
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;31361707]you forget that most of FP is too lazy to leave their houses to buy a game retail, which is why they rely on steam for every aspect of their lives[/QUOTE] I was hoping at least some people knew that there are distribution services other than Steam, Origin and Games for Windows. That doesn't seem to be the truth though sadly, look at what TheCloak said.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;31361682] Why not get it through Direct2Drive, or one of the many other distribution services that offer Battlefield 3?[/QUOTE] I felt safest getting it on Origin
I'm not buying any BF3 DLC unless it has a lot of content and is reasonably priced. BC2 Vietnam pretty good, but I fear that that's the last good DLC we'll ever see from a Battlefield game.
[QUOTE=TheCloak;31361754]I felt safest getting it on Origin[/QUOTE] What's their to lose by getting it on Direct2Drive, a trustworthy service that's been established nearly as long as Steam?
Want to tell Origin to fuck off? Buy the games retail, I'm not going to boycott EA but that's the next best thing, I'm buying TOR and BF3, uninstalling Origin once it's not necessary anymore.
They better not remove Mass Effect and DAO Ultimate from Steam.
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;31362091]Want to tell Origin to fuck off? Buy the games retail, I'm not going to boycott EA but that's the next best thing, I'm buying TOR and BF3, uninstalling Origin once it's not necessary anymore.[/QUOTE] Origin [B]isn't [/B] necessary at all. I'm sick of people not informing themselves about the subject but talking about it anyways. Alice: Madness Returns was the first EA title to be released using EA's most recent business model (and more than likely the same one Battlefield 3 will use). Origin is only required for downloading the game if purchased through Origin, that's it. With Alice; If you got it through Steam, you do not need Origin. If you got a physical copy through a retailer, the only thing you'd need to do in relation to an EA service is link the game's key to your EA account, Origin is not necessary for the installation of it. This might be an annoyance for single player games (like Alice), but with Battlefield 3 you'll be using the same EA account to play it online, so it doesn't matter.
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;31361707]you forget that most of FP is too lazy to leave their houses to buy a game retail, which is why they rely on steam for every aspect of their lives[/QUOTE] I can't really afford to buy games full price all the time and fuck gamestop to hell and back.
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;31361707]you forget that most of FP is too lazy to leave their houses to buy a game retail, which is why they rely on steam for every aspect of their lives[/QUOTE] Or maybe it's because SALES. Which, you know, are handy when the economy is in the shitter.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;31363214]Or maybe it's because SALES. Which, you know, are handy when the economy is in the shitter.[/QUOTE] Uh, other distribution services have sales too, you know. Direct2Drive is still going through its 31 days of sales, and today you can pick up 4 games for a good price, as well as general sales such as Hearts of Iron III for $4. Gamersgate also has tonnes of things on sale as well, and last weekend Napoleon: Total War was only $5.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;31363214]Or maybe it's because SALES. Which, you know, are handy when the economy is in the shitter.[/QUOTE] If the economy is so shitty, why are you wasting your money on video games? The economy isn't an excuse to be a cheap ass about games. I don't like paying $60 for games either, but I'll admit it's because I'm a tight wad.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;31360380]What I find the funniest about all of this is that people are trying to argue that BF3 on PC won't suffer any sales losses from not being on Steam. I mean hello! Tons who are playing on PC probably won't even hear of it unless it ends up on Steam. Lots will just decide to wait for a Steam version, some will boycott it, others will forget about it.[/QUOTE] Then more fool them
Now this is going to sound like an idiots question, but is the game you buy linked to your EA account, as in, you cannot play it without linking it up? That is if you buy it on Origin, and also will it be the same with upcoming releases like BF3. I don't want to have my games tied to a service where my games can be removed, and my ability to play revoked after two years of inactivity.
[QUOTE=Juggernog;31364306]Now this is going to sound like an idiots question, but is the game you buy linked to your EA account, as in, you cannot play it without linking it up? That is if you buy it on Origin, and also will it be the same with upcoming releases like BF3. I don't want to have my games tied to a service where my games can be removed, and my ability to play revoked after two years of inactivity.[/QUOTE] No matter where you buy it from, it will have to be linked to an EA account. I think their might be exceptions in some cases, I think you didn't need to link Bad Company 2 if you brought it on Steam and only played single player. Also about games being "removed": Valve has that same authority (and you agree to give them the power to do so), but no one really cares. Also, I think EA mentioned (or in the agreement thing) that only certain content such as DLC will be deleted if 2-year inactivity occurs.
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;31361707]you forget that most of FP is too lazy to leave their houses to buy a game retail, which is why they rely on steam for every aspect of their lives[/QUOTE] Or maybe because the choice of PC games in retail stores is pathetic, plus the fact they charge more than steam does?
The point of services like Steam and Origin are to have a platform where the games you play are automatically updated when you run it, ensuring that you always have the latest, most uptodate and complete version of the games you're playing. If distributors start releasing patches and updates that circumvent this system, there's no point in having the game on the download platform. Personally, I would just like to see one single, collaborated gaming platform that serves as a download centre for all digital downloadable games and updates. Unfortunately that's about as likely to happen as Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft announcing they're going to make a single nextgen console called the X-Stationcube 360i.
I remember the crushing disappointment that happened when I played this game. The main character was even using the name I put on all my RPG characters, but alas, the game was terribly shit.
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