• Australian child molester Peter Scully faces death penalty in Philippines
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[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51119531]Ummm... that's what prison is for[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=geel9;51119557]I don't have empathy for him, I just don't have an unreasonable desire for him to die. Get rid of the problem; put him in prison. I'd rather not compromise justice just because this guy is abominable.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but he is enjoying his time there. He doesn't care. It's to the point where it's not a punishment for him, it's another vacation. No one has a right to literally enjoy their time in prison, be it for punishment or rehab. It's certainly not for rehab in this case. If he is enjoying him punishment, fuck him. Remove him. He's clearly not going to be missed and he is just going to be a burden on whatever facility he is placed in anyway.
Prison won't bring back those whose lives he destroyed. Prison isn't going to take back the pain he caused them. Prison isn't going to reform him in any way, shape, or form. The only thing prison is gonna do is give him a roof on his head, food to eat, and water to drink. He gets to use resources and continue to live. Those children he murdered won't get that chance. Those children he murdered won't live to be 50. They will never know love. They will never have kids of their own. He stripped these people of their lives for his own entertainment. At this point I don't care if he is a human being. I don't care if morals get in the way. I don't give a shit if killing him will make us stoop to his level. Nothing we do will ever bring back those children who were tortured, dismembered, raped, and murdered. Far as I'm concerned an eye for an eye is more than just. At least his corpse can fertilize the fucking ground and feed the damn worms. Then he can be a productive member of society. Fuck this piece of human garbage.
[QUOTE=Banned?;51119565]Yeah, but he is enjoying his time there. He doesn't care. It's to the point where it's not a punishment for him, it's another vacation. No one has a right to literally enjoy their time in prison, be it for punishment or rehab. It's certainly not for rehab in this case. If he is enjoying him punishment, fuck him. Remove him. He's clearly not going to be missed and he is just going to be a burden on whatever facility he is placed in anyway.[/QUOTE] The point is to keep him away from society, not to satisfy peoples sadism [editline]28th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51119577][B]Prison won't bring back those whose lives he destroyed[/B]. Prison isn't going to take back the pain he caused them. Prison isn't going to reform him in any way, shape, or form. The only thing prison is gonna do is give him a roof on his head, food to eat, and water to drink. He gets to use resources and continue to live. Those children he murdered won't get that chance. Those children he murdered won't live to be 50. They will never know love. They will never have kids of their own. He stripped these people of their lives for his own entertainment. At this point I don't care if he is a human being. I don't care if morals get in the way. I don't give a shit if killing him will make us stoop to his level. Nothing we do will ever bring back those children who were tortured, dismembered, raped, and murdered. Far as I'm concerned an eye for an eye is more than just. At least his corpse can fertilize the fucking ground and feed the damn worms. Then he can be a productive member of society. Fuck this piece of human garbage.[/QUOTE] But murder will?
[QUOTE=Banned?;51119565]Yeah, but he is enjoying his time there. He doesn't care. It's to the point where it's not a punishment for him, it's another vacation. No one has a right to literally enjoy their time in prison, be it for punishment or rehab. It's certainly not for rehab in this case. If he is enjoying him punishment, fuck him. Remove him. He's clearly not going to be missed and he is just going to be a burden on whatever facility he is placed in anyway.[/QUOTE] ...Why the fuck does it matter if he's enjoying himself? Don't fucking worry about it. As long as he's not in a position to harm other people, I don't give a shit whether or not he's having a grand old time. My aim isn't to just cause as much harm as possible; that's a scary fucking prospect.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51119596]The point is to keep him away from society, not to satisfy peoples sadism [editline]28th September 2016[/editline] But murder will?[/QUOTE] It's obvious that this dude enjoys living. Like I said nothing will bring them back, but he isn't gonna suffer in jail. He's gonna brag about his past "victories" and carry on like he always has. He'll have the time of his life in solitary while he thinks about all those crimes he's committed, and he won't regret a single action. For this man prison isn't a punishment. It's paradise.
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51119639]It's obvious that this dude enjoys living. Like I said nothing will bring them back, but he isn't gonna suffer in jail. He's gonna brag about his past "victories" and carry on like he always has. He'll have the time of his life in solitary while he thinks about all those crimes he's committed, and he won't regret a single action. For this man prison isn't a punishment. It's paradise.[/QUOTE] So what?
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51119639]It's obvious that this dude enjoys living. Like I said nothing will bring them back, but he isn't gonna suffer in jail. He's gonna brag about his past "victories" and carry on like he always has. He'll have the time of his life in solitary while he thinks about all those crimes he's committed, and he won't regret a single action. For this man prison isn't a punishment. It's paradise.[/QUOTE] So what? Why is punishment necessary? How will it help?
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51119644]So what?[/QUOTE] So it's fine for a man to enjoy his punishment? It's fine for him to like being locked away? When you go to prison you are supposed to either suffer or reform. If he doesn't do either than what's the point? Sure you keep him off the streets, but knowing that there is always the smallest chance he might escape is unacceptable. At least dead there is zero chance he could ever hurt anyone ever again.
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51119675]So it's fine for a man to enjoy his punishment? It's fine for him to like being locked away? When you go to prison you are supposed to either suffer or reform. If he doesn't do either than what's the point? Sure you keep him off the streets, but knowing that there is always the smallest chance he might escape is unacceptable. At least dead there is zero chance he could ever hurt anyone ever again.[/QUOTE] No dude, prison's purpose is to either reform or, if they can't reform, keep them away from society. Punishment isn't relevant; it's why we don't have torture chambers in prisons anymore.
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51119675]So it's fine for a man to enjoy his punishment? It's fine for him to like being locked away? When you go to prison you are supposed to either suffer or reform. If he doesn't do either than what's the point? Sure you keep him off the streets, but knowing that there is always the smallest chance he might escape is unacceptable. At least dead there is zero chance he could ever hurt anyone ever again.[/QUOTE] Well i'd hope for reform tbh
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51119702]Well i'd hope for reform tbh[/QUOTE] Good luck with this fucker.
This is not someone who can be reasoned with he will say what it takes ( maybe even fake crying to get out of dodge )
It makes the justice system look like a soft joke if criminals are rewarded/enjoy the sentence they get for such a crime. [editline]28th September 2016[/editline] I'd like to see what the opinions of the victims families are tbh.
[QUOTE=geel9;51119456]Any time someone else disagrees with another morally they're taking the "moral high ground" If the only argument you have is "you think you're right :((" then you have no argument.[/QUOTE] people have given arguments for executing him that aren't "you think you're right" [editline]27th September 2016[/editline] personally i don't think there is any contribution to society by keeping him imprisoned or executing him. he would be better used in scientific research
Dude listen to yourself
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51119798]Dude listen to yourself[/QUOTE] would you rather he sit in prison with nobody looking into what caused him to be the way he is? so that the cycle you talk about continues as we just don't know why it happens? this is not an argument, but an appeal to emotion, exactly what you are chastising others in this thread about.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51119802]would you rather he sit in prison with nobody looking into what caused him to be the way he is? this is not an argument, but an appeal to emotion, exactly what you are chastising others in this thread about.[/QUOTE] What?
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51119802]would you rather he sit in prison with nobody looking into what caused him to be the way he is? so that the cycle you talk about continues as we just don't know why it happens? this is not an argument, but an appeal to emotion, exactly what you are chastising others in this thread about.[/QUOTE] No, I don't think forced human experimentation is just.
[QUOTE=geel9;51119825]No, I don't think forced human experimentation is just.[/QUOTE] Neither is execution. At least there is a profit with the experimentation route.
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51119844]Neither is execution. At least there is a profit with the experimentation route.[/QUOTE] I agree that execution is unjust. My concern isn't profits.
[QUOTE=geel9;51119825]No, I don't think forced human experimentation is just.[/QUOTE] who says that research has to entail experimenting on him? it could be examining his life story, psychological inquiry, genetic sequencing to see if perhaps that has a component to why he did what he did. if we can discover what caused him to do this, we may be able to better prevent people in the future from doing the same. it would be a far better use than having him sit in a cell for the rest of his life.
[QUOTE=geel9;51119825]No, I don't think forced human experimentation is just.[/QUOTE] I doubt it'd be mengele style mutilation
[QUOTE=geel9;51119851]I agree that execution is unjust. My concern isn't profits.[/QUOTE] Profit means a gain of any sort. For example yesterday I almost got hit by a car. The profit? I am now situational aware when I cross the street.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51119702]Well i'd hope for reform tbh[/QUOTE] Perfect, we'll reform him, and then he can go and play with kids at his new job as a junior high teacher, who knows, maybe he'll even have the privilege of teaching your daughter, or maybe your little cousins :)
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51120464]Perfect, we'll reform him, and then he can go and play with kids at his new job as a junior high teacher, who knows, maybe he'll even have the privilege of teaching your daughter, or maybe your little cousins :)[/QUOTE] It's going to be so beautiful [img]http://wikipunch.com/images/2/20/2011rating_Friendly.png[/img]. What a wonderful human being he could become! /s
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51120464]Perfect, we'll reform him, and then he can go and play with kids at his new job as a junior high teacher, who knows, maybe he'll even have the privilege of teaching your daughter, or maybe your little cousins :)[/QUOTE] If succesfully reformed... sure
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51120495]If succesfully reformed... sure[/QUOTE] We're 98% sure!
well obviously keep him in prison until you're 100 percent
[QUOTE=geel9;51119688]No dude, prison's purpose is to either reform or, if they can't reform, keep them away from society. Punishment isn't relevant; it's why we don't have torture chambers in prisons anymore.[/QUOTE] here's something for you to read so you can get more learned on the definition, intent, and different types of "Punishment." [url]http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/legal-punishment/[/url] and [url]http://criminal.lawyers.com/criminal-law-basics/punishment-of-crime.html[/url]
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51120517]well obviously keep him in prison until you're 100 percent[/QUOTE] How are you supposed to be 100% sure? Think about it dude, come on.
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