Australian child molester Peter Scully faces death penalty in Philippines
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Wow, never thought I'd see facepunch supporting the death penalty.
[QUOTE=Stolons;51118320]Wow, never thought I'd see facepunch supporting the death penalty.[/QUOTE]
Facepunch supports the death penalty all the time. Every week SH gets a story about someone doing something cruel and heinous and there's always the response: "wow i sure dont like the death penalty but im willing to set aside my ethical principles in service of my visceral outrage so lets get with the hanging"
If honestly hope all humans deserve life and compassion
[QUOTE=Stolons;51118320]Wow, never thought I'd see facepunch supporting the death penalty.[/QUOTE]
he killed raped and dismembered a child leg of with a fucking chainsaw so no I won't lose sleep over his death
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;51118362]he killed raped and dismembered a child leg of with a fucking chainsaw so no I won't lose sleep over his death[/QUOTE]
yeah but he had a hard life before that you know, cut him some slack...
Yeah, if something is gross enough we're allowed to drop all of our compassion and empathy
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51118411]Yeah, if something is gross enough we're allowed to drop all of our compassion and empathy[/QUOTE]
I don't think you can hear us anymore from that moral highground of yours.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51118411]Yeah, if something is gross enough we're allowed to drop all of our compassion and empathy[/QUOTE]
Sometimes there are people who need to be dead.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;51118409]yeah but he had a hard life before that you know, cut him some slack...[/QUOTE]
please, tell me this is scarsm/ I can tell by you're post but just want to make sure
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51118227]Nice psych eval
[editline]27th September 2016[/editline]
So?[/QUOTE]
I love 'Nice psych eval' when this same guy keeps using his epic psych eval to decide that something must have fucked him up in the first place and its actually not his fault
[QUOTE=Antary;51118422]I don't think you can hear us anymore from that moral highground of yours.[/QUOTE]
The same thing goes for both sides.
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;51118445]please, tell me this is scarsm/ I can tell by you're post but just want to make sure[/QUOTE]
If you'd read the thread you would have no doubt, if you've read the thread and are still in doubt then I'm not telling you.
[QUOTE=The bird Man;51118263]Cookies[/QUOTE]
You make a compelling argument sir.
[QUOTE=Teratoma;51118580]You make a compelling argument sir.[/QUOTE]
Cookies saves the world.
Are we really discussing if this freak deserves compassion and mental help? Dude raped and murdered innocent children for fucks sake. He filmed it for fun as well! It doesn't matter how bad your past was or how mentally insane you are. You still killed the innocent. If such a thing as a soul exists this man wouldn't have one, because he isn't a human. He's a fucking monster.
Jesus Christ, people are actually saying this guy is worth anything more than a bag of human shit? i mean...
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51118411]Yeah, if something is gross enough we're allowed to drop all of our compassion and empathy[/QUOTE]
what the fuck is this horse shit? it's not just because it's "ew, gross!!!" that we think this guy is human scum who's undeserving of rights, what he did involved murdering another innocent person, dimwit. let's just apply your same smug, unintelligible logic to Hitler... "so what he did some GROSS things to SOME people, he's still a person!" are you for real? do you realize how much of an under-exaggeration that is? you're saying Peter Scully just did some 'gross' things? murder and child rape is just 'eww icky!' to you? also, saying someone deserves to live just because they're human isn't an argument, it means nothing. we're all humans, what's your point? just because you exist doesn't mean you're not evil and capable of doing horrible things, some people are just a detriment to society and don't deserve to live or make their own choices. do you think he had "compassion and empathy" for those children he tortured and/or killed? please, stop using "he's a person therefore he should be showered with sympathy and respect!" as an argument because it's nonsense, make an actual point as to why this guy deserves anything more than a shot to the head for the terrible shit he's knowingly done to other people with no remorse.
let's go off topic and look at the real problem there is a market for this shit people enjoy this shit and this dipshit only got caught ([sP]I only guessing here and could be mixing it with a different story i herd on youtube [/sP]) because he was cocky and arrogant and foolish t which got him caught
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;51118082]It's laziest argument in the world to accuse someone of being strawman[/QUOTE]
Actually, in the instance of it being a strawman, all that you have to do is point out that it's a strawman because it wasn't an argument that was refutable to begin with.
That's why it's called a Logical Fallacy. You can't beat it with logic.
[QUOTE=mayo;51118672]Jesus Christ, people are actually saying this guy is worth anything more than a bag of human shit? i mean...
what the fuck is this horse shit? it's not just because it's "ew, gross!!!" that we think this guy is human scum who's undeserving of rights, what he did involved murdering another innocent person, dimwit. let's just apply your same smug, unintelligible logic to Hitler... "so what he did some GROSS things to SOME people, he's still a person!" are you for real? do you realize how much of an under-exaggeration that is? you're saying Peter Scully just did some 'gross' things? murder and child rape is just 'eww icky!' to you? also, saying someone deserves to live just because they're human isn't an argument, it means nothing. we're all humans, what's your point? just because you exist doesn't mean you're not evil and capable of doing horrible things, some people are just a detriment to society and don't deserve to live or make their own choices. do you think he had "compassion and empathy" for those children he tortured and/or killed? please, stop using "he's a person therefore he should be showered with sympathy and respect!" as an argument because it's nonsense, make an actual point as to why this guy deserves anything more than a shot to the head for the terrible shit he's knowingly done to other people with no remorse.[/QUOTE]
The amount of misrepresenting my arguments in this post is insane, it's like you guys aren't even reading them. How about you tell me why he DOESN'T deserve to live?
Sirius the only arguments I've seen you make are based on morals, emotions and nothing else.
"he's a person too!!"
[QUOTE=Araknid;51119221]Sirius the only arguments I've seen you make are based on morals, emotions and nothing else.
"he's a person too!!"[/QUOTE]
That's not emotional, that's fact. And i'm arguing against people who are [B]literally[/B] saying he isn't human (mostly figuratively). My point is simply that he is just the same as you or I but under vastly different circumstances. This OBVIOUSLY doesn't excuse his actions, and he should definitely be kept away from society as is. But I think the response of just killing him is the most ineffective band aid solution ever. It's also stooping to the level of murderers
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51119279]That's not emotional, that's fact. And i'm arguing against people who are [B]literally[/B] saying he isn't human (mostly figuratively). My point is simply that he is just the same as you or I but under vastly different circumstances. This OBVIOUSLY doesn't excuse his actions, and he should definitely be kept away from society as is. But I think the response of just killing him is the most ineffective band aid solution ever. It's also stooping to the level of murderers[/QUOTE]
These people just really want to see someone dead, man. You're not going to logic them out of a conclusion they didn't logic themselves into.
it's always entertaining to come in these threads and observe the obligatory tools that will attempt to take the moral high ground over everyone else.
[QUOTE=geel9;51119431]These people just really want to see someone dead, man. You're not going to logic them out of a conclusion they didn't logic themselves into.[/QUOTE]
Yup, really getting that feeling
[editline]28th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;51119442]it's always entertaining to come in these threads and observe the obligatory tools that will attempt to take the moral high ground over everyone else.[/QUOTE]
Taking the moral high ground on killing someone... yep
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;51119442]it's always entertaining to come in these threads and observe the obligatory tools that will attempt to take the moral high ground over everyone else.[/QUOTE]
Any time someone else disagrees with another morally they're taking the "moral high ground"
If the only argument you have is "you think you're right :((" then you have no argument.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51119279]That's not emotional, that's fact. And i'm arguing against people who are [B]literally[/B] saying he isn't human (mostly figuratively). My point is simply that he is just the same as you or I but under vastly different circumstances. This OBVIOUSLY doesn't excuse his actions, and he should definitely be kept away from society as is. But I think the response of just killing him is the most ineffective band aid solution ever. It's also stooping to the level of murderers[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=geel9;51119431]These people just really want to see someone dead, man. You're not going to logic them out of a conclusion they didn't logic themselves into.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand how you guys can try to empathise with someone who has tortured, raped, and murdered multiple children, filmed it and put it on the internet, who is laughing and joking about it at trials and in jail, treating it like a vacation of some kind, who is well into his 50's and, at this point, doesn't have any kind of empathy of his own or regret about his own actions. He knows he did it, he is reveling it in, you don't need a full fucking psych eval to see that. It's just in his actions as a person. He doesn't care. He'd do it again. He's already done it several times. Fuck him. He's had his entire life to try to help himself with his "little" problem and now, 50+ fucking years into his life, is not the time to empathise over his willing killings and rapings of innocent kids. This guy is psychotic and an actual danger to every person around him that isn't himself. Off him.
Must be really fucking hard for you guys to see this stuff being so high on your horses there.
Ummm... that's what prison is for
[QUOTE=KnightSolaire;51104835]When people get to justifying firing squads, it worries me, even when it's something this grotesque.
Most people who are paedophiles generally are molested themselves at a young age, it's a viscous cycle. The fact some people in the community are advocating death for someone who is likely a victim turned criminal is certainly a shame.
I'd rather have a better support system out there for the children of such hideous crimes and support lines for those who become unwilling (Nobody wants to be a social pariah lads, lets be honest) subjects to disgusting impulses.[/QUOTE]
It's a vicious cycle, true. How do you stop a cycle? you break it. with therapy, or bullets.
I'm thinking bullets for this one.
[QUOTE=Banned?;51119516]I don't understand how you guys can try to empathise with someone who has tortured, raped, and murdered multiple children, filmed it and put it on the internet, who is laughing and joking about it at trials and in jail, treating it like a vacation of some kind, who is well into his 50's and, at this point, doesn't have any kind of empathy of his own or regret about his own actions. He knows he did it, he is reveling it in, you don't need a full fucking psych eval to see that. It's just in his actions as a person. He doesn't care. He'd do it again. He's already done it several times. Fuck him. He's had his entire life to try to help himself with his "little" problem and now, 50+ fucking years into his life, is not the time to empathise over his willing killings and rapings of innocent kids. This guy is psychotic and an actual danger to every person around him that isn't himself. Off him.
Must be really fucking hard for you guys to see this stuff being so high on your horses there.[/QUOTE]
I don't have empathy for him, I just don't have an unreasonable desire for him to die. Get rid of the problem; put him in prison. I'd rather not compromise justice just because this guy is abominable.
[QUOTE]Empathy is not something you teach, this Scully is completely devoid of it and any other human emotion, he is beyond the point of help, he's human in body form only.
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Why is it people need to dehumanize others before punishing them? If some one did me dirty I wouldn't need to do that. I just deal with them as situation dictates.
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