The soursop tree has similar effects. My mum used it in conjunction with some experimental treatments for her breast cancer and so far, so good. When you start digging around you can find many people who have been boiling down, extracting and using these trees and their leaves / fruits for cancer fighting purposes for a VERY long time. It's just all kept hush because you really don't want the big companies or the government catching on.
There are so many things in nature that can fight cancer, it's crazy. But 99% of people would never know... Just fork over all your money, take your chemo and move on.
[QUOTE=Pokeman493;46175101]I'm hoping this will one day make chemotherapy obsolete, from what I heard, shit reaches inhumane levels of painful.[/QUOTE]
Well yeah. The entire principle behind chemotherapy is that you, as an overall entity, are harder to kill than the cancer inside of you. Hopefully.
So they basically poison the crap out of you until it hopefully dies and you don't.
Pokemon was right?!
[I]10 years later[/I]
[B]"Rare cancer-fighting berry discovered to cause severe dementia and/or super AIDS[/B]
[QUOTE=zombays;46178879][I]10 years later[/I]
[B]"Rare cancer-fighting berry discovered to cause severe dementia and/or super AIDS[/B][/QUOTE]
Don't you fucking jinx this.
[QUOTE=Pokeman493;46178891]Don't you fucking jinx this.[/QUOTE]
Too late bro, I'm gonna jinx this harder than a witch on viagra
[QUOTE=Pokeman493;46178891]Don't you fucking jinx this.[/QUOTE]
This topic has been j!nx'd since the second post.
human used oran berry x1
This Miracle Fruit Will Shed Pounds of Cancer Off You in an Flash
Considering how virulent melanomas are in Australia, it's nice to find this in the backyard.
[QUOTE=ZeMole;46176698]Have one with every Winnie blue and you'll be bonza, mate. Fair dinkum[/QUOTE]
I cringed hard.
Everything in Australia will kill you. Even the berries kill cancer :v:
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;46175820]That's sorta the rule of nature. If anything destructive appears, something that's healing appears. No darkness without light and all.
Welcome to evolution, it's a wonderful thing.[/QUOTE]
I don't think that was covered in the biology curriculum when I was in school.
The berries are made to keep you alive so that some other Australian wildlife can kill you.
"I'm sorry, sir, but it seems that you have a tumor in your lungs."
"Oh god! Did you catch it in time? Do I have a chance? Will I -"
"Sir, please calm down. Usually at this stage it is, in fact, terminal. However, you are eligible to participate in a new clinical trial that involves the use of a certain kind of exotic berry."
"So you're saying, this fruit can fight my tumor?"
"It sure [U][I]can, sir[/I][/U]."
[editline]7th October 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;46179088]Everything in Australia will kill you. Even the berries kill cancer :v:[/QUOTE]
Did u just call me cancer m8
It's kinda funny, in order to get to a plant which may aid in cancer fighting you literally have to go to the country where everything can kill you
Can we change the name of the berry? I would really like the miracle berry that cures cancer to be the dingle berry.
[QUOTE=Miskav;46176083]That's... That's not how.... What...?
Are you implying nature is sentient and is actively balancing every positive with every negative?[/QUOTE]
No it's not sentient, yes it balances every positive with every negative. It's much like newton's third law, it just happens because it has no reason not to.
To elaborate, every action that takes place in nature makes perfect conditions for an appropriate reaction. This can be as simple as mosquito overgrowth attracting mosquito-eating organisms (and may even result in their temporary overgrowth), but also as complex as of cancer cells causing development of anti-carcinogens in plants. It's similar to natural immunity to diseases developing in organisms, except much more rare because most organisms die to cancer before they get to have offspring, preventing offspring from storing genetic record of the event and developing anti-carcinogen in following generations, as well as the fact that identifying the cause of cancer is even more difficult for natural organisms than it is for us (they pretty much have to use themselves and their offspring as test subjects). Developing counters to common illnesses is much easier since those are much easier to get and guess their cause. From nature's standpoint though, cancer is not more deadly than any other illness, if you don't have an immunity to it, you die, and if you don't get busy before you die, you're delaying the development of proper immune response that much longer.
[QUOTE=Sobek-;46178753]The soursop tree has similar effects. My mum used it in conjunction with some experimental treatments for her breast cancer and so far, so good. When you start digging around you can find many people who have been boiling down, extracting and using these trees and their leaves / fruits for cancer fighting purposes for a VERY long time. It's just all kept hush because you really don't want the big companies or the government catching on.
There are so many things in nature that can fight cancer, it's crazy. But 99% of people would never know... Just fork over all your money, take your chemo and move on.[/QUOTE]
And 99% of people don't try them because they aren't exactly tested to work. When big companies or governments get treatments from plants they make it into medicine - it's what medicine is.
I know chemo is a shot in the dark, but untested boiled extracted leaves/fruits is like peeing into space and expecting to hit Alpha Centauri.
Nature is so fascinating
[QUOTE=Pokeman493;46175101]I'm hoping this will one day make chemotherapy obsolete, from what I heard, shit reaches inhumane levels of painful.[/QUOTE]
The pains are bad, but nothing comes near painful labors, kidney stones and cluster headaches.
Hopefully they can figure out how to extract the compound of the berry that has cancer-killing properties soon, and hone it into a drug or some form of treatment, it takes a long time to get medicine and treatment out on the market, so the sooner the better. Even if in the end, it doesn't completely kill cancer but helps reduce it or slow it down, that's a major plus.
[quote]"There's a compound in the seed - it's a very, very complicated process to purify this compound and why it's there in the first place, we don't know," he said.
"The compound works by three ways essentially: it kills the tumour cells directly, it cuts off the blood supply and it also activates the body's own immune system to clean up the mess that's left behind."
There were no side effects, but what amazed scientists most was how fast it worked: the drug took effect within five minutes and tumours disappeared within days.[/quote]
I hope it has a similar or the same effect on humans, because this is truly stunning, and such a positive in the field of cancer research.
[QUOTE=Pokeman493;46175101]I'm hoping this will one day make chemotherapy obsolete, from what I heard, shit reaches inhumane levels of painful.[/QUOTE]
But using the berry IS chemotherapy.
[editline]8th October 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Drury;46180223]No it's not sentient, yes it balances every positive with every negative. It's much like newton's third law, it just happens because it has no reason not to.
To elaborate, every action that takes place in nature makes perfect conditions for an appropriate reaction. This can be as simple as mosquito overgrowth attracting mosquito-eating organisms (and may even result in their temporary overgrowth), but also as complex as of cancer cells causing development of anti-carcinogens in plants. It's similar to natural immunity to diseases developing in organisms, except much more rare because most organisms die to cancer before they get to have offspring, preventing offspring from storing genetic record of the event and developing anti-carcinogen in following generations, as well as the fact that identifying the cause of cancer is even more difficult for natural organisms than it is for us (they pretty much have to use themselves and their offspring as test subjects). Developing counters to common illnesses is much easier since those are much easier to get and guess their cause. From nature's standpoint though, cancer is not more deadly than any other illness, if you don't have an immunity to it, you die, and if you don't get busy before you die, you're delaying the development of proper immune response that much longer.[/QUOTE]
Except why would a plant make something that kills tumours in animals? I suspect that killing cells, preventing blood flow and causing inflammation is a good way to stop pesky animals from eating you,; or rather, stops insects from eating you.
[QUOTE=Jabberwocky;46181128]Except why would a plant make something that kills tumours in animals? I suspect that killing cells, preventing blood flow and causing inflammation is a good way to stop pesky animals from eating you,; or rather, stops insects from eating you.[/QUOTE]
Well why would fungus want to kill bacteria in animals eating it? Cancers differ in types of tissue they affect, but that doesn't mean every cancer has one unique and specific way of treatment.
[QUOTE=Drury;46181296]Well why would fungus want to kill bacteria in animals eating it? Cancers differ in types of tissue they affect, but that doesn't mean every cancer has one unique and specific way of treatment.[/QUOTE]
Fungus can produce antibiotics to kill off bacteria that are competing for resources.
My worst fear is to develop cancer before just before a massive cure is found.
[QUOTE]The berry grows on the blushwood tree, which only grows in pockets of Far North Queensland.
"The tree is very, very picky on where it will grow," Dr Boyle said.
"It's only on the Atherton Tablelands at the moment and they're trying to expand that to different places of course because it'd be nice to be able to grow it on a farm somewhere.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully we can figure out a way to replant and get some farming of these as soon as possible. Imagine what could be done if we could have these being regularly harvested
[sp]i wonder how they taste[/sp]
Also people should remember this isn't an "end to cancer". It's only effective against ones where you can readily inject it directly into the tumor.
Sequence the genome of this plant and clone the shit out of it.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46175710]cancer is from nature as well lmao[/QUOTE]
I'd call cancer a corruption of nature.
This berry will turn people into zombies, calling it
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