[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;39790638]thats the problem google's engineers will have to solve. maybe it will write an ai that can detect if someone is looking at you and saying your name or some shit[/QUOTE]
Or just have/find employment records/housing records/passport/drivers liscenses
Its not that complicated really.
New technology brings with it new problems. Society will still sort itself out, even if it gets a little ugly.
[QUOTE=EnlightenDead;39790648]Or just have/find employment records/housing records/passport/drivers liscenses
Its not that complicated really.[/QUOTE]
my way is more fun
[QUOTE=Ardosos;39790611]Yeah, but I mean recording constant video of people using the glasses for the duration that they are using them, and storing all this video? Over time, that has to add up, you know?[/QUOTE]
what if there was a program that would automatically search for new faces in a "scene", then take a single frame as a picture to store for whatever purpose. then they can compress the video down and archive it somewhere.
it's certainly an incredibly massive and unfeasible thing now, but a dedicated organization could eventually create new methodologies to analyze massive amounts of data.
[QUOTE=EnlightenDead;39790648]Or just have/find employment records/housing records/passport/drivers liscenses
Its not that complicated really.[/QUOTE]
this doesn't answer my question
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39790655]what if there was a program that would automatically search for new faces in a "scene", then take a single frame as a picture to store for whatever purpose. then they can compress the video down and archive it somewhere.
it's certainly an incredibly massive and unfeasible thing now, but a dedicated organization could eventually create new methodologies to analyze massive amounts of data.[/QUOTE]
nah these cameras tend to frame blend a bit, single frames wind up being blurred messes
Come on guys.
I thought we got over throwing stones at our shadows.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;39790658]this doesn't answer my question[/QUOTE]
Actually it does. They can find your face through drivers licenses and passports, therefore they can identify your face without you needing to register with google.
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;39790624]good ol' max making quality theories[/QUOTE]
If anyone else had said it you wouldn't have complained, cut the shit.
Given Google's track record it doesn't seem all that likely that such a thing would happen, but Google definitely has an enormous collection of information that could be exploited. It may not contain quite the amount that the article suggests, and the technology isn't entirely there yet, but Google is in a unique position that could understandably make people nervous.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;39790632]how will google know that a photo of me is actually OF me if i never registered my name to my face?[/QUOTE]
someone else can register your face?
i don't imagine the worst case scenario being me being able to "google" my face or w/e, but for law enforcement or intelligence organizations to track people.
[QUOTE=EnlightenDead;39790666]Actually it does. They can find your face through drivers licenses and passports, therefore they can identify your face without you needing to register with google.[/QUOTE]
because google will have access to your drivers licenses and passports
for fuck sake dude
Could always just not buy the glasses. Or not do stupid things. A bit like now and having a Facebook account.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/iBkbfSq.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=its shortie;39790622]The amount of bandwidth/storage space this will require will be enormous. It just won't be practical. At least not for many years down the road[/QUOTE]
The problem isn't the storage, or the bandwidth on Google's side. It would be similar to what Youtube does - it's a lot, but Google has the resources. It's the user-side bandwidth that makes it impossible.
3G can barely support uploading video real-time, and heavy congestion or bad reception can kill it. Not to mention how quickly it would eat up your bandwidth cap.
And a WiFi-only Glass would be worthless. It kind of has to work everywhere you go, not just at work and home.
So the Glass has to work reasonably well with no connection. Facial recognition will have to be client-side - it might sync face data to the cloud, but it will just have a local DB of faces and data, *maybe* querying the cloud if it can't recognize one. And there's no way it will store everything you view.
[QUOTE=EnlightenDead;39790666]Actually it does. They can find your face through drivers licenses and passports, therefore they can identify your face without you needing to register with google.[/QUOTE]
is facial recognition tech not age-sensitive? ie could an old photo of you be recognized as you years later? and despite how powerful googles computers are and will become in the future, i dont think its even remotely feasible to run a facial recognition algorithm on millions of drivers licenses EACH TIME you need to identify one unidentified face in a google image. there's a fine line between speculative fear of the future and scifi paranoia
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;39790670]because google will have access to your drivers licenses and passports
for fuck sake dude[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.license.shorturl.com/[/url]
you totally can man
Doesn't glass require you to have a smartphone
AKA all it is, is an extention of your smartphone, where your smartphone is what does all the actual thinking for glass and class is basically just a specilized display for it
In this case, its not any different than the current situation? (aka, take a video and keep it on your phone, which you may or may not choose to upload to youtube or soemthing)
[QUOTE=KorJax;39790699]Doesn't glass require you to have a smartphone
AKA all it is, is an extention of your smartphone, where your smartphone is what does all the actual thinking for glass and class is basically just a specilized display for it
In this case, its not any different than the current situation? (aka, take a video and keep it on your phone, which you may or may not choose to upload to youtube or soemthing)[/QUOTE]
basically, i guess people are just worried about the likely increase in frequency of these pictures / videos being taken. if google had a plan to scan the face of every human being captured in a photo, i think they have enough data floating around already thanks to android smartphones. glass may result in more data being uploaded but in the end i don't think it means there'll be some massive transformation of society where everyone's face is cataloged for no discernible reason
[QUOTE=Kopimi;39790685]is facial recognition tech not age-sensitive? ie could an old photo of you be recognized as you years later? and despite how powerful googles computers are and will become in the future, i dont think its even remotely feasible to run a facial recognition algorithm on millions of drivers licenses EACH TIME you need to identify one unidentified face in a google image. there's a fine line between speculative fear of the future and scifi paranoia[/QUOTE]
I've never once said anything about being worried about Glass or future technology, in fact I hope it turns out great. I'm just saying its quite easy to get info about someone, nothing more, nothing less.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;39790685]is facial recognition tech not age-sensitive? ie could an old photo of you be recognized as you years later? and despite how powerful googles computers are and will become in the future, i dont think its even remotely feasible to run a facial recognition algorithm on millions of drivers licenses EACH TIME you need to identify one unidentified face in a google image. there's a fine line between speculative fear of the future and scifi paranoia[/QUOTE]
you can already search through millions of objects with search engines dude. the difference is developing facial recognition software that can recognize a face, assign a value to it, then search the database for other similar values is going to be a much tougher job.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;39790690][url]http://www.license.shorturl.com/[/url]
you totally can man[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://www.license.shorturl.com/license_genAs.php?&name=John+Doe[/IMG]
uhm
What almost everyone in this thread is thinking Google can do:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk[/media]
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39790669]someone else can register your face?
i don't imagine the worst case scenario being me being able to "google" my face or w/e, but for law enforcement or intelligence organizations to track people.[/QUOTE]
yeah but then people could just register anyone's face with false information. the entire scheme could be quickly corrupted by a couple thousand people combing through some photos labeling everyone as spongebob squarepants or something
[QUOTE=EnlightenDead;39790715]I've never once said anything about being worried about Glass or future technology, in fact I hope it turns out great. I'm just saying its quite easy to get info about someone, nothing more, nothing less.[/QUOTE]
yeah sorry i wasn't trying to be accusative
[QUOTE=EnlightenDead;39790718][IMG]http://www.license.shorturl.com/license_genAs.php?&name=John+Doe[/IMG]
uhm[/QUOTE]
im not sorry
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;39790690][url]http://www.license.shorturl.com/[/url]
you totally can man[/QUOTE]I feel retarded for actually falling for that.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;39790723]
yeah sorry i wasn't trying to be accusative[/QUOTE]
It's okay I still love you and your great avatar.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;39790723]yeah but then people could just register anyone's face with false information. the entire scheme could be quickly corrupted by a couple thousand people combing through some photos labeling everyone as spongebob squarepants or something
yeah sorry i wasn't trying to be accusative[/QUOTE]
that's not what i'm saying. let's say, for the sake of maximum dramatic effect, the cia wants to track mr. john doe because he may be associated with a criminal organization. they take john doe's driver's license picture(along with every other picture they have), put it in the database, and up comes videos of everything that glass has caught john doe doing.
of course this is totally dramatic and not currently a real risk, but these things need to be thought about now because people are genuinely trying to work out how to feasibly do this.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39790741]that's not what i'm saying. let's say, for the sake of maximum dramatic effect, the cia wants to track mr. john doe because he may be associated with a criminal organization. they take john doe's driver's license picture(along with every other picture they have), put it in the database, and up comes videos of everything that glass has caught john doe doing.
of course this is totally dramatic and not currently a real risk, but these things need to be thought about now because people are genuinely trying to work out how to feasibly do this.[/QUOTE]
yeah i guess, but whats stopping them from doing that now? people take videos and pics of stuff constantly so they already have a huge pool of data to comb through in looking for info about people, with CCTV and smartphones and things like that. plus i guess i just can't get riled up about this sort of thing because its rather inevitable. its like, even if we acknowledge its a confirmed issue that will be taking place, what can we really do about it?
Getting a job interview is going to be like having a meeting with S. R. Hadden from Contact.
This is all just a bunch of fear mongering. They're saying a ton of stuff that, while [I]technically[/I] possible, nobody is even thinking of implementing. First off, it wouldn't be 'within earshot of the device', it would be 'within earshot of a [B]recording[/B] google glass device.' They're not going to be recording all the time, and when they are, it's all user controlled. Right now people throw a shit fit because google stores their search info to better predict future search results for that person. Imagine what kind of riot there would be if google said, "Glass will always be recording, anytime it's on, and sent to our servers."
And that's assuming that every video recorded is sent to google. Because I'm pretty sure it's not at the moment, and it would be stupid to implement because it would waste tons of data and battery power.
And how would they know who said it? If you take a video, and you know that a specific person speaks in it, it's fairly feasible to extract their voice. But people sound alike. When you're searching a repository of 1 Billion+ people based on someone's voice, you're going to get millions upon millions of false positives.
This article is just fear mongering, nothing to worry about, move along.
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