I like how people are acting like minimum wage drops just kinda drop from trees :v:
[QUOTE=The Baconator;38414770]So apparently a developer at DICE likes DX11.1 allot, and requested some of the changes DX11.1 has
His tweet about it:
[url]https://twitter.com/repi/status/114017754201325569[/url][/QUOTE]BF4 could be W8 only.
But then again, they pulled that with BF3 and it's only two years between it and BF4 so I doubt they'll pull it now.
Repi's frostbite programmer though, so Frostbite 3 will def. be W8 only.
Hopefully by that time W9 will be released and be amazing or absolute shit.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;38414667]XP is completely dead why should they support such an old OS?[/QUOTE]
it wasn't when halo 2 came out
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;38414753]XP was still preferred over Vista at the time of the port to Windows (which was in 2007). Now if we're talking Halo 4 (if it ever gets a PC port), then that statement would make more sense.[/QUOTE]
God, those were the dark days of PCs.
huh well that is interesting, I can use OpenGL 4.2 on my current GPU on my OS of choice.
Funny that.
[QUOTE=Dori;38415222]I can run 7 on midrange hardware from 2006[/QUOTE]
While the minimum system requirements for Windows 7 may dictate it can run on older hardware, the problem is that tons of manufacturers never made drivers for NT 6+. So you're either forced to use generic terrible drivers that have no acceleration, or shit just doesn't work.
Another block to installing on old hardware is that many older motherboards have buggy ACPI implementations (ASUS is notorious for this), in which case Windows Vista/7/8 will refuse to install.
If DX11.1 is Windows 8 exclusive they can just simply keep it. I don't want to use Windows 8 since I'm fine with 7. Maybe I'll change to Linux.
[QUOTE=KILLTHIS;38419976]If DX11.1 is Windows 8 exclusive they can just simply keep it. I don't want to use Windows 8 since I'm fine with 7. Maybe I'll change to Linux.[/QUOTE]
I don't want to use 7 since I'm fine with Vista.
I don't want to use Vista since I'm fine with XP.
I don't want to use 2000 since I'm fine with 3.1.
I mean I agree right now there's not much incentive to go out of your way to switch to 8 from 7, but if you get the chance, why not?
I hate DirectX
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;38420031]I don't want to use 7 since I'm fine with Vista.
I don't want to use Vista since I'm fine with XP.
I don't want to use 2000 since I'm fine with 3.1.
I mean I agree right now there's not much incentive to go out of your way to switch to 8 from 7, but if you get the chance, why not?[/QUOTE]
Ok, how about:
I don't want to use 8 because I don't like it.
[QUOTE=MIPS;38416300]If Mirrors Edge 2 was a Windows 8 exclusive game I would fucking kill myself.
Edited: Lets put that on the record for possible An Hero status.[/QUOTE]
Mirrors edge kind of sucked, I don't know why people loved it so much. I found it overly boring and its story was meh.
[editline]12th November 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Stopper;38420225]Ok, how about:
I don't want to use 8 because I don't like it.[/QUOTE]
Then don't complain when companies start dishing out DX11.1 exclusives and you can't play because you 'dont like it', I'm not defending the decision I'm simply stating the reality.
[QUOTE=laserguided;38420231]Mirrors edge kind of sucked, I don't know why people loved it so much. I found it overly boring and its story was meh.
[editline]12th November 2012[/editline]
Then don't complain when companies start dishing out DX11.1 exclusives and you can't play because you 'dont like it', I'm not defending the decision I'm simply stating the reality.[/QUOTE]
I don't see myself complaining.
[QUOTE=laserguided;38420231]Mirrors edge kind of sucked, I don't know why people loved it so much. I found it overly boring and its story was meh.
[editline]12th November 2012[/editline]
Then don't complain when companies start dishing out DX11.1 exclusives and you can't play because you 'dont like it', I'm not defending the decision I'm simply stating the reality.[/QUOTE]
It's going to be a long time before we start seeing DX11.1 [U]exclusives[/U].
The problem with Windows 8 is that it is designed for touch screens and overall seems quite bad.
[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;38420508]It's going to be a long time before we start seeing DX11.1 [U]exclusives[/U].
The problem with Windows 8 is that it is designed for touch screens and overall seems quite bad.[/QUOTE]
Nah, it's pretty good in my opinion. If we take the start screen (which is better or worse depending on who you talk to) out of the equation, I'll say that Windows 8 is quite a bit better compared to Windows 7, no matter who you talk to. With the start screen in there, it depends on who you talk to. Personally I like it, it's better in some respects, has more functionality, and the only downside I can really think of doesn't really concern me. Overall Windows 8 is a solid OS, in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Stopper;38420225]Ok, how about:
I don't want to use 8 because I don't like it.[/QUOTE]
But why?
It's literally the exact same in almost every way except improved where it is not.
i hate linux
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;38420634]Nah, it's pretty good in my opinion. If we take the start screen (which is better or worse depending on who you talk to) out of the equation, I'll say that Windows 8 is quite a bit better compared to Windows 7, no matter who you talk to. With the start screen in there, it depends on who you talk to. Personally I like it, it's better in some respects, has more functionality, and the only downside I can really think of doesn't really concern me. Overall Windows 8 is a solid OS, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
You say "with the start screen out of the equation", but you can't really subtract metro from windows 8. It's featured heavily in the settings, you have to use the sidebar thing to even shut down, and not to mention the insane limitation like not being able to use the desktop in the RT version.
In my opinion, Windows 8 (especially the RT edition) is a disaster.
[QUOTE=showtek;38420993]i hate linux[/QUOTE]
Why
Not going to change from 7 until the equivalent of what 7 was to xp.
I fucking hated vista and I don't see a reason to change seeing as how I just switched from xp less than a year ago; fuck off microsoft.
Vista was fine though, people just had shit hardware and hardware vendors were late on drivers.
I had like no problems.
[QUOTE=showtek;38420993]i hate linux[/QUOTE]
Please do go in to detail
Well I guess no one will be using DX 11.1 then.
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;38420988]But why?
It's literally the exact same in almost every way except improved where it is not.[/QUOTE]
You people are so fucking backwards. When did it become so that personal opinion stopped meaning anything?
Because I cannot get used to the interface, because I find it less functional albeit a slight bit faster than Windows 7. Because I don't want to use it.
The thing is (and I've said this a couple of times already) if I don't want to use it because I don't like it, I'm either:
a) a fucking retard
b) haven't tried it
c) haven't given it enough time to like ergo, I'm a)
Why can't people just get used to the fact that [B]right now[/B] it's a matter of taste and preference.
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;38420031]I don't want to use 7 since I'm fine with Vista.
I don't want to use Vista since I'm fine with XP.
I don't want to use 2000 since I'm fine with 3.1.
I mean I agree right now there's not much incentive to go out of your way to switch to 8 from 7, but if you get the chance, why not?[/QUOTE]
I do see your point, but since I use it almost on a daily basis for our machines at work... it's horrible. Even though you can get used to it I still can't really get to like it. It seems to be fucked up intentionally just for the stupid design, which isn't that great for mouse and keyboard.
A engine supporting newer features of DirectX doesn't mean it will be restricted to that version only. There are a few engines out there that have support for DX11 features, while still supporting DX9 for compatibility reasons. If a developer got their requests into the API, then they are probably going to use it, but that doesn't write the whole engine off the every user, especially seeing as 11.1 isn't a milestone release. If anything it will probably be like 9.0c was to earlier versions, mostly similar as it's the same milestone, just newer hardware/ OS can use better features.
Why the [B]fuck[/B] are you lot getting so pissed off at this? Think about it for a god damned second and you'd see you are massively overreacting.
[QUOTE=usa;38418241]OpenGL is getting better but man its had such a screwed-up-the-fucking-ass-so-badly planning and development at points.
Maybe next time I might be convinced OpenGL is "better" than DirectX, but at the moment the most compatible version of OpenGL is definitely not better. It doesn't even compare to some of the things DirectX 11 has.
[editline]12th November 2012[/editline]
you are pretty terrible should i go back to oify too???
[editline]12th November 2012[/editline]
Pretty damn good rendering platform to be locked down onto tbh.
[editline]12th November 2012[/editline]
Im not saying OPENGL IS HORRID ASGHAHSG DIRECTX MASTER RACE, but ever since DX reached 10/11, it seems to be miles ahead of anything OpenGL does.
OpenGL is catching up however, and I look forward to the minute it does.[/QUOTE]
You have no clue what you're on about. OpenGL supports all the same shit dude.
I can't even get DirectX 11 to function properly on my Win7 computer (Radeon HD 6970. Should function out of the box but I've never been able to enable it on any games that support it). Soo, I guess I don't give a shit.
Push comes to shove someone will just enable it on Win7 like they did with DX10 on XP and DX11 on Vista.
Well, all those linux distro's torrent jokes soon will be actually true
[QUOTE=Stopper;38420225]Ok, how about:
I don't want to use 8 because I don't like it.[/QUOTE]
Windows 8 is great. Runs just as good if not better than 7, is basically identical in every way (except it has a new flat skin instead of the glassy one in 7) but has a few new shortcuts to speed up productivity.
Most people seem to think that you're stuck in the metro UI and that they've done away with explorer. That's false. You simply click desktop and poof, classic windows! That tile window you see is just the new start menu. It's actually a little better than the old one, looks prettier, and has some useful dynamic icons for email/weather/etc.
Instead of clicking start>all programs>autodesk>3dsmax 2012, just just hit start and click the 3dsmax icon. When you install programs, the shortcuts still go in the start menu and you can arrange them like shown below.
Using optional Metro apps, you get live tiles that show you weather/email/etc. Or place traditional shortcuts like shown.
[img]http://imageshack.us/a/img842/2715/17848582.jpg[/img]
Tada! just like windows 7 - but with a flat, modern color scheme. Clicking at the bottom left, or physically pushing the windows key next to the ctrl/alt keys opens the start screen.
[img]http://imageshack.us/a/img7/4187/34150562.jpg[/img]
Putting the mouse at the top right brings up this as a skinny bar on the right side.
[img]http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1712/84675020.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=TonyP;38433532]Windows 8 is great. Runs just as good if not better than 7, is basically identical in every way (except it has a new flat skin instead of the glassy one in 7) but has a few new shortcuts to speed up productivity.
Most people seem to think that you're stuck in the metro UI and that they've done away with explorer. That's false. You simply click desktop and poof, classic windows! That tile window you see is just the new start menu. It's actually a little better than the old one, looks prettier, and has some useful dynamic icons for email/weather/etc.[/QUOTE]
The start is just about functionally the same if you use the keyboard to interact with it, and the fact it's flat instead of a tree should make it easier for people who are new computers to use it.
The problem is that you have to use the touch gestures to open the menus if you're not using the keyboard, which makes turning off the computer a bit of an odd interaction.
Edit: But of course Microsoft want you to use the Metro UI so that you're more comfortable with Windows RT where they can take away your rights to run what you like.
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