[QUOTE=danharibo;38433569]But of course Microsoft want you to use the Metro UI so that you're more comfortable with Windows RT where they can take away your rights to run what you like.[/QUOTE]
From what I've read, Windows RT is the phone/tab (AKA ARM) version of windows 8. Why you'd expect desktop features in a mobile/portable OS meant for weak and low power devices is beyond me.
[QUOTE=danharibo;38433569]makes turning off the computer a bit of an odd interaction.[/quote]
Or you can just push the power button on the computer :downs:
Windoze 8 looks like a pile of horse shite, and I'm not letting it anywhere near my hard drive.
Can't they do something more sensible like limiting it to pcie 3.0 motherboards.
[QUOTE=Civil;38433711]Can't they do something more sensible like limiting it to pcie 3.0 motherboards.[/QUOTE]
These are the people that shat out Vista and now want to force this new turd down our throats; what is this 'sensible' you speak of?
[QUOTE=Fenrisulfr;38433725]These are the people that shat out Vista and now want to force this new turd down our throats; what is this 'sensible' you speak of?[/QUOTE]
Have you used Windows 8?
[QUOTE=TonyP;38433596]From what I've read, Windows RT is the phone/tab version of windows 8. Why you'd expect desktop features in a mobile OS is beyond me.
Or you can just push the power button on the computer :downs:[/QUOTE]
No, Windows RT is the ARM version of Windows 8.
[QUOTE=TonyP;38433741]Have you used Windows 8?[/QUOTE]
It is great for tablets/laptops
Well.. That is the only thing I can say about it that is good.
Realize now that the "Windows 8 hate bandwagon" is bigger than the "Windows 8 like bandwagon" when talking about a desktop OS.
[QUOTE=danharibo;38433747]No, Windows RT is the ARM version of Windows 8.[/QUOTE]
Uh-huh thats what I was saying.
[QUOTE=TonyP;38433761]Uh-huh thats what I was saying.[/QUOTE]
No, you said it's the "Phone/tablet version" (which it isn't, Windows Phone 8 is based on NT but it's not Windows RT), It is /just/ windows on ARM, and it's locked into the Metro UI.
Stop talking out of your ass.
[QUOTE=Civil;38433755]It is great for tablets/laptops
Well.. That is the only thing I can say about it that is good.
Realize now that the "Windows 8 hate bandwagon" is bigger than the "Windows 8 like bandwagon" when talking about a desktop OS.[/QUOTE]
Okay, and why exactly do you find Windows 8 bad? It's Windows 7 with improved performance, a new skin, new task manager, and a new start menu.
By your/bandwagons logic, the only thing good about Windows 7 was the start menu and skin since those are the only obvious changes.
And you still haven't told me if you have tried Windows 8 yet. Wiggling the mouse for 2 seconds at a demo station in Best Buy doesn't count.
[editline]13th November 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=danharibo;38433772]No, you said it's the "Phone/tablet version" (which it isn't, Windows Phone 8 is based on NT but it's not Windows RT), It is /just/ windows on ARM, and it's locked into the Metro UI.
Stop talking out of your ass.[/QUOTE]
Mhm, and what do phones and tablet use, ARM processors. I googled Windows RT and saw it was the ARM version, which is why I said a "phone/tablet version". What else uses ARM? Not much. Smart TVs?
Anything using an ARM cpu is too weak to have any need for the traditional explorer program, and they wont be able to run regular Windows x86 programs anyway, only programs made for Windows ARM systems..
[QUOTE=TonyP;38433774]
Mhm, and what do phones and tablet use, ARM processors. I googled Windows RT and saw it was the ARM version, which is why I said "phone/tablet version". What else uses ARM? Not much. Smart TVs?[/QUOTE]
Are you for real? I just said that Windows Phone is [i]not[/i] Windows RT (you can even [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Phone_8]read it on Wikipedia[/url] if you don't believe me).
And of course, you are wrong again, There are several netbooks that utilize the ARM architecture, which means that you could be hypothetically sitting next to someone who's got a netbook just like yours, except they can run whatever they like, while you're stuck with the list of Metro Applications approved by Microsoft.
[QUOTE=danharibo;38433818]Are you for real? I just said that Windows Phone is [i]not[/i] Windows RT (you can even [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Phone_8]read it on Wikipedia[/url] if you don't believe me).
And of course, you are wrong again, There are several netbooks that utilize the ARM architecture, which means that you could be hypothetically sitting next to someone who's got a netbook just like yours, except they can run whatever they like, while you're stuck with the list of Metro Applications approved by Microsoft.[/QUOTE]
A 'few netbooks' would fall under "not much".
Never said (or thought) Windows RT was Windows Phone. You are making a fool of yourself by arguing at me over a point I never claimed, and exists only in your head. Now please shut up, and stop arguing over nothing. Thanks.
[QUOTE=TonyP;38433822]Never said Windows RT was Windows phone. Shut up please.[/QUOTE]
No, you said it was the phone version AKA Windows Phone 8.
[QUOTE=TonyP;38433774]And you still haven't told me if you have tried Windows 8 yet. Wiggling the mouse for 2 seconds at a demo station in Best Buy doesn't count.[/QUOTE]
You must be one of the many that went directly from windows xp to windows 8.
So I must ask, have you tried Windows 7? Looking at it being used on you-tube doesn't count.
One more question: Is that guy in your avatar you?
[QUOTE=TonyP;38433741]Have you used Windows 8?[/QUOTE]
I tried it on the floor model when I was buying laptops two weeks ago. If my sentiment is not clear by now, it was a piece of shite. I eventually purchased a used floor model at 10% off that had Windows 7.
Hahaha and i'm still using XP....
[QUOTE=Blu_ninja;38434004]Hahaha and i'm still using XP....[/QUOTE]
That is splendid; the only reason I upgraded was to play Civilisation 5, otherwise I would have saved the $99.
So why is it a 'piece of shite'? Other than the start menu, it's the same as Windows 7 (except with a new skin and some optimizations) Were you using one of the RT netbooks or did you just not notice you could click the desktop and it'd be just like Windows 7?
It's nothing like Vista. People hated because it was horribly bloated, glitchy, crashy, and slow. All good reasons. Windows 8 isn't bloated, glitchy, crashy or slow. It runs about the same as or in some cases faster than 7. The only reasons you ever hear somebody say that they hate it is because of the new start menu that you only use for 2 seconds here and there (unless you're using the RT version)
So, in what way do [I]you[/I] find Windows 8 to be a 'piece of shite'?
[QUOTE=Fenrisulfr;38434018]That is splendid; the only reason I upgraded was to play Civilisation 5, otherwise I would have saved the $99.[/QUOTE]
The reason I got windows 7 was because my old windows xp machine was about to die, all parts stopping to work. So I got a new pc with the waaaay better windows 7 installed on it.
That switch was a little more than 2 years ago. It is pointless to switch now to windows 8 because I don't like all it includes and I don't even have all the parts in my pc upgraded yet to match my gpu.
[QUOTE=TonyP;38434052]It's nothing like Vista. People hated because it was horribly bloated, glitchy, crashy, and slow. All good reasons. Windows 8 isn't bloated, glitchy, crashy or slow.[/QUOTE]
You seem very educated about vista. There was nothing wrong with it when the service packs started coming out for it.
[QUOTE=Civil;38433987]You must be one of the many that went directly from windows xp to windows 8.
So I must ask, have you tried Windows 7? Looking at it being used on you-tube doesn't count.
One more question: Is that guy in your avatar you?[/QUOTE]
What? I went from XP to Vista, then back to XP because Vista was bloated and ran poorly. Then I went to Windows 7, used that since the Beta. I went to Windows 8 last month when it was 15 dollars. I hardly even notice the change, unless I have to go to the start screen for 1 second to open a program. I prefer the new and (imo) improved start menu/screen anyway. I've had zero crashes, driver issues, or anything like that. The only compatibility issue I've had is with Xpadder which I fixed in 2 minutes by googling it.
Whether or not the child in my avatar is me is irrelevant straw-man, not sure where you were going with that.
[editline]13th November 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Civil;38434056]You seem very educated about vista. There was nothing wrong with it when the service packs started coming out for it.[/QUOTE]
Sure, the service packs fixed a lot of the issues, but Windows 7 was still an improvement.
[QUOTE=TonyP;38434052]So, in what way do [I]you[/I] find Windows 8 to be a 'piece of shite'?[/QUOTE]
It was more graphics intensive, even when I clicked the desktop thingy. On laptops, this means that everything else runs much more slowly because graphics are run from the processors. By that criterion alone, I pronounced it shite.
Ever since Vista, Microsoft must earn my trust with each product. I only considered W7 after was out for a year.
[QUOTE=Fenrisulfr;38433995]I tried it on the floor model when I was buying laptops two weeks ago. If my sentiment is not clear by now, it was a piece of shite. I eventually purchased a used floor model at 10% off that had Windows 7.[/QUOTE]
So my assumption was right. You used it for 30 seconds and dismissed it thanks to your preconceptions from the hate bandwagon.
If I only gave 30 seconds to try [I]anything[/I], I'd probably hate everything ever.
[editline]13th November 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Fenrisulfr;38434131]It was more graphics intensive.[/QUOTE]
No it's not? There's little to no change at all in how it performs compared to 7. I'd wager it was a placebo effect thanks to your preconceptions. Or you just tested a shitty, weak device with tons of bloatware pre-installed.
[QUOTE=TonyP;38434144]So my assumption was right. You used it for 30 seconds and dismissed it thanks to your preconceptions from the hate bandwagon.
If I only gave 30 seconds to try [I]any [/I]device, I'd hate everything.[/QUOTE]
Argumenta ad populum do not fool me; try again.
That wasn't "Argumenta ad populum", I stated quite clearly several potential reasons why the opinions you've developed about W8 are probably uninformed.
Several reasons:
- only used it for 2 seconds
- tried it on a weak/slow computer
- tried it on a good computer but one with a bunch of shitty bloatware slowing it down
- biased preconceptions implanted by the bandwagoners causing a placebo effect
- trying it on an in store unit in the first place (in my experience, they've always ran crappy compared to my own computers even when out-specced)
[QUOTE=TonyP;38434192]That wasn't "Argumenta ad populum", I stated quite clearly several reasons why the opinions you've formed about W8 are probably uninformed. (only using it for 5 seconds, trying it on a weak/slow computer, trying it on a good computer but one with a bunch of shitty bloatware slowing it down, biased preconceptions implanted by the bandwagoners causing a placebo effect, etc)[/QUOTE]
Brush up on your Latin; 'argumenta' is the plural, 'argumentum' is the singular.
Nice way to completely dodge my point and address something entirely irrelevant.
Are you really going to act arrogant because somebody doesn't know the grammar of a dead language. (and I was just quoting the phrase directly. I had to google it since I have never even heard of that before)
[QUOTE=TonyP;38434224]Nice way to completely dodge my point and address something entirely irrelevant.
No need to act arrogant because somebody doesn't know the grammar of a dead language.[/QUOTE]
It does not please me to address your fallacy-ridden banter, but it amuses me to correct your Latin, so the latter came to pass, but not the former.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;38414667]XP is completely dead why should they support such an old OS?[/QUOTE]
It is still used A LOT in work environments. that is because it is easy to manage for domain administrators and people are used to the OS.
[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;38434234]It is still used A LOT in work environments. that is because it is easy to manage for domain administrators and people are used to the OS.[/QUOTE]
TehWhale didn't know that Halo 2 was released as vista only in 2004-5.
When xp was 99% of pcs.
That is why he collected millions of boxes.
I dislike Windows 8... It's great for tablets and ARM devices (even though I prefer debian for ARM). But it just feels awkward on desktops.
Now quick everyone jump on the bandwagon!
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