Cologne sex attacks: Merkel disgust at New Year gang assaults - German Chancellor Angela Merkel has - Polidicks

So when is Merkel going to be tried for treason?

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49474150]No true feminist? It isnt just some fringe few people. Feminism in general is hostile towards criticisms of Islam. Ayaane Hirrsi for example, a rights activist and ex-muslim was blacklisted by Islamic groups and womens groups. They forced a university to not give her an award and have made it so that she can't speak at events without harassment.[/QUOTE] Another shining example of white feminism into play as well, you're allowed to criticise Islam and shit just like I can criticise Christianity or Mormonism without any penalty, the fact they did that is again outrageous [editline]7th January 2016[/editline] of course, criticism doesn't mean a free pass to be a dick and extremely islamophobic

[QUOTE=Flumbooze;49475109]Please, as an American, don't say you feel bad for European politicians... Besides, it seems you don't understand the situation Germany is in. I'm not agreeing with the way this is handled, but Germany has to be extremely PC because of its past. "Hue hue hue does that mean people have to get hurt." No, but it means that they'll always think about their actions longer, because they still feel sorry. A bit silly imo, since it was such a long time ago, but that's still their reasoning. (Also, Europe is fucking huge... This is one large incident in Germany and you say you feel bad for Europe? There are so many different countries in Europe...)[/QUOTE] Yeah well, how long until Germany gets over WWII, grow a spine and respect themselves as a country? Last time I checked, Germans are taught since the time they can stand that having right-wing tendencies is the absolute worst thing you could ever think of, and all they do is trying to make up for something that happened 70+ years ago, but this is fucking ridiculous. [i]"-I'm sorry I'm blonde with blue eyes! I'm sorry I'm German! Please please, come into my country! See zis? We're receiving tons of immigrants! zat shows zat we're very tolerant, very open, and definitely no longer who we used to be, amirite guise?" [/i] It pains me to see Germany, such a beautiful country, being run into the ground over ridiculous policies that stem from a seemingly never-ending and exaggerated feeling of remorse and (white) guilt over something that happened long time ago. For a country that boasts their technological, scientific and industrial prowess as one of the best in the world, it's hard to believe they could be so pants-on-head retarded to the point they end up literally opening their borders to all kinds of criminals and freeloaders, and say that things are okay... with a straight face. From outside, Germany looks literally like this: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oBx7Jg4m-o[/media]

[QUOTE=Ajacks;49473706]Was not intentional, just misremembered. I edited my post for clarity.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Ajacks;49471442]Just listened to my daily BBC world news podcast and they had a guest talking, Anne Wizorek, German author and feminist blogger and she was saying how it was "deeply racist" to talk about the issues regarding these assaults when "white men rape women in Germany and nobody talks about it." It's such a shut down to any real discussion on the topic and just chooses to ignore an issue because its sensitivity. Edited for clarification.[/QUOTE] This still isn't exactly close to what she was trying to convey, and actually said regarding the situation. (I don't exactly agree with her kind of feminism mind you, since she's one of the people who uses #rapeculture and focuses on "systemic issues" and such ([editline]edit[/editline] when talking about Germany). She does seem to differentiate between the different issues she's politically active about and calls for objectivity instead of "riding the wave" in support of her main cause though, which I think is quite respectable.)

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49475387]Yeah well, how long until Germany gets over WWII, grow a spine and respect themselves as a country? Last time I checked, Germans are taught since the time they can stand that having right-wing tendencies is the absolute worst thing you could ever think of, and all they do is trying to make up for something that happened 70+ years ago, but this is fucking ridiculous. [i]"-I'm sorry I'm blonde with blue eyes! I'm sorry I'm German! Please please, come into my country! See zis? We're receiving tons of immigrants! zat shows zat we're very tolerant, very open, and definitely no longer who we used to be, amirite guise?" [/i] It pains me to see Germany, such a beautiful country, being run into the ground over ridiculous policies that stem from a seemingly never-ending and exaggerated feeling of remorse and (white) guilt over something that happened long time ago. For a country that boasts their technological, scientific and industrial prowess as one of the best in the world, it's hard to believe they could be so pants-on-head retarded to the point they end up literally opening their borders to all kinds of criminals and freeloaders, and say that things are okay... with a straight face. From outside, Germany looks literally like this: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oBx7Jg4m-o[/media][/QUOTE] I'm not approving anything, I'm just giving information since a lot of people from the US don't see to realise why Germany is doing these weird things. It's not because they don't understand the problems or love immigrants, there's a reason behind all this.

[QUOTE=Flumbooze;49475653]I'm not approving anything, I'm just giving information since a lot of people from the US don't see to realise why Germany is doing these weird things. It's not because they don't understand the problems or love immigrants, there's a reason behind all this.[/QUOTE] A bad reason, but yeah. European politicians are too weak. These economic immigrants should've never been allowed in to the countries. Now we have absolutely no way of ridding ourselves of this plague.

[QUOTE=Tamschi;49475418]This still isn't exactly close to what she was trying to convey, and actually said regarding the situation. (I don't exactly agree with her kind of feminism mind you, since she's one of the people who uses #rapeculture and focuses on "systemic issues" and such. She does seem to differentiate between the different issues she's politically active about and calls for objectivity instead of "riding the wave" in support of her main cause though, which I think is quite respectable.)[/QUOTE] Rape culture does exist. It's just that it's not the western culture. Quite a few Islamic cultures condone rape, etc.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49476554]Rape culture does exist. It's just that it's not the western culture. Quite a few Islamic cultures condone rape, etc.[/QUOTE] I suppose I should have been more specific: Pretty sure she was tweeting/talking about Germany along those lines.

Why does Germany always have to ruin Europe

[QUOTE=opaali;49477528]Why does Germany always have to ruin Europe[/QUOTE] obviously it's in the blood, right?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49469306]In sexual assault threads for the past 2-4 years, it's been a very, very dumbable offense on facepunch to say "It's their fault for not being careful", NO MATTER THE CONTEXT. Now we have the government coming out and saying what people on Facepunch were typically dumbed to hell for.[/QUOTE] what this is literally the opposite of my experience every time someone says its victim blaming there's a 10 page argument with the people saying it was victim blaming getting called SJWs i was actually going to post in this thread saying it's amazing how popular opinion on this has entirely flipped around now that it's about refugees; it suddenly becomes victim blaming

Probably shouldn't have left so many refugees get in the country unchecked if you wanted to lower/keep the crime rates steady, Merkel.

we have warnings in the UK about areas of high theft rate, telling people to note keep things visible in their cars and to lock their doors we also have warnings about areas with recent burglaries telling people to watch out with their houses and to make sure they keep everything shut is this victim blaming?

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;49477668]we have warnings in the UK about areas of high theft rate, telling people to note keep things visible in their cars and to lock their doors we also have warnings about areas with recent burglaries telling people to watch out with their houses and to make sure they keep everything shut is this victim blaming?[/QUOTE] Surely to some people

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49477681]Surely to some people[/QUOTE] the only reason you'd ever argue this is to desperately try and avoid one of the biggest ad absurdums you've ever trodden in

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;49477668]we have warnings in the UK about areas of high theft rate, telling people to note keep things visible in their cars and to lock their doors we also have warnings about areas with recent burglaries telling people to watch out with their houses and to make sure they keep everything shut is this victim blaming?[/QUOTE] There is a difference between taking precautions and being paranoid. You can blame someone for not doing the former based on sheer common sense but if you blame someone for not doing the latter you're effectively victim blaming. For the record wearing non-revealing clothes just on the off chance that someone may take it very personally and try to rape you is not a universal precaution, maybe it applies to some contexts but on a day to day basis it's just moronic.

The Murkle Man will sort out Merkel

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;49477842]There is a difference between taking precautions and being paranoid. You can blame someone for not doing the former based on sheer common sense but if you blame someone for not doing the latter you're effectively victim blaming. For the record wearing non-revealing clothes just on the off chance that someone may take it very personally and try to rape you is not a universal precaution, maybe it applies to some contexts but on a day to day basis it's just moronic.[/QUOTE] pretty sure these guidelines are not on a day-to-day basis, this should be self evident by one of them being 'stick in a group' [editline]7th January 2016[/editline] also your first statement is questionable as hell - paranoia wouldn't make a guideline "victim blaming", it would make it an unreasonable guideline there's literally no reason to use victim blaming with regard to government guidelines

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;49475308] of course, criticism doesn't mean a free pass to be a dick and extremely islamophobic[/QUOTE] It shouldn't be considered Islamophobic to be critical of Islam or bigoted to be intolerant towards more extreme interpreters of Islam. Now, you believe that but quite a few people don't.

Not sure if this was posted already, but can I get a nice, loud "fuck the New Statesman" for [URL="http://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2016/01/how-deal-new-years-eve-sexual-assaults-cologne-and-hamburg"]making this about muh raep kultchurr[/URL], instead of actually reporting about what the fuck happened.

[QUOTE=Alsojames;49480103]Not sure if this was posted already, but can I get a nice, loud "fuck the New Statesman" for [URL="http://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2016/01/how-deal-new-years-eve-sexual-assaults-cologne-and-hamburg"]making this about muh raep kultchurr[/URL], instead of actually reporting about what the fuck happened.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]to reject with fury the suggestion that we are somehow conditioned by society forever to treat women as objects, condemned by our uncontrollable sexual desires to lunge at them as they walk past?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Fear of the unknown is a hard thing to unlearn. I am most concerned, by far, with the safety of the women who may now be more frightened than ever to enter public spaces.[/QUOTE] Its not western European men committing causing the huge increase in these sort of crimes. Also, this is not unknown. It is well known by everybody that Arab and North African cultures are extremely sexist. The above quote is exactly why women in arab countries are forced to wear the burqa, etc.

/r/Worldnews has a sticky thread of people reporting sexual harrassment on women from Cologne, Hamburg, Zürich, Salzburg, and Helsinki during NYE [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/3zxxhi/reports_of_sexual_assaults_on_women_across/[/url]

[QUOTE=Wii60;49480814]/r/Worldnews has a sticky thread of people reporting sexual harrassment on women from Cologne, Hamburg, Zürich, Salzburg, and Helsinki during NYE [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/3zxxhi/reports_of_sexual_assaults_on_women_across/[/url][/QUOTE] Way too late, instead of handling the threads in one major megathread like they should. The damage is done. That sub is a fucking joke.

Look at these intelligent "ethnic Germans" after their demonstration "against sexual violence by refugees" demonstration was ended by the police because they started throwing explosives and bottles: [media]https://twitter.com/chefreporterNRW/status/685852325106348032[/media]

[QUOTE=Killuah;49499022]Look at these intelligent "ethnic Germans" after their demonstration "against sexual violence by refugees" demonstration was ended by the police because they started throwing explosives and bottles:[/QUOTE] Can't find any source of them throwing explosives but it seems strange that they have the resources to deploy hundreds of officers to stop this protest but not the resources to prevent mass assault events. Of course crazy semi-nazi protesters being idiots doesn't somehow mean that migrants in Europe don't have problems relating to their culture, such as anti-semitism and an extreme disrespect of women.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49499054]Can't find any source of them throwing explosives but it seems strange that they have the resources to deploy hundreds of officers to stop this protest but not the resources to prevent mass assault events. Of course crazy semi-nazi protesters being idiots doesn't somehow mean that migrants in Europe don't have problems relating to their culture, such as anti-semitism and an extreme disrespect of women.[/QUOTE] And luckily I didn't say that there aren't problems. And of course mass assault prevention is not a ressource problem and noone ever said that either.

There was a major demonstration in Cologne, 1700 participants were demonstrating against violence by refugees. A counter-demonstration was also started by people opposing Pegida. Despite the large amount of people, the pegida didn't get far because they were blocked off by police. At some point the demonstrators started throwing bottles, firecrackers and other fireworks. Not really explosive but still it's a threat. You can read it up on Spiegel.

[QUOTE=Alsojames;49480103]Not sure if this was posted already, but can I get a nice, loud "fuck the New Statesman" for [URL="http://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2016/01/how-deal-new-years-eve-sexual-assaults-cologne-and-hamburg"]making this about muh raep kultchurr[/URL], instead of actually reporting about what the fuck happened.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Killuah;49499022]Look at these intelligent "ethnic Germans" after their demonstration "against sexual violence by refugees" demonstration was ended by the police because they started throwing explosives and bottles: [media]https://twitter.com/chefreporterNRW/status/685852325106348032[/media][/QUOTE] I for one think it's pretty disgusting how people on all sides are using this tragedy to push forward their political agendas, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised when this happens.

Update: The amount of criminal complaints rose to over 500, yes, FIVE HUNDRED in the fast few days. This weekend, more than 300 of them were made about what happened during New Year's Eve. Source: [url]http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article150841218/Zahl-der-Anzeigen-steigt-auf-mehr-als-500.html?wtrid=socialmedia.socialflow....socialflow_twitter[/url] (Die Welt, German Newspaper.)

[QUOTE=Jordax;49501420]Update: The amount of criminal complaints rose to over 500, yes, FIVE HUNDRED in the fast few days. This weekend, more than 300 of them were made about what happened during New Year's Eve. Source: [url]http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article150841218/Zahl-der-Anzeigen-steigt-auf-mehr-als-500.html?wtrid=socialmedia.socialflow....socialflow_twitter[/url] (Die Welt, German Newspaper.)[/QUOTE] Yeah. At least one positive side of this is that people are encouraged to report more of this stuff. Also please don't link "Die Welt", it belongs to Springer Verlag and they are assholes with no journalistic integrity.