South Carolina Policeman Shoots 70 Year Old Man for Grabbing His Cane
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[QUOTE=Dr. Ocsid;44060618]Well, at least the guy was okay. I feel like the officer didn't need to fire several times, though.
...I mean, he obviously didn't need to fire at all, but still.[/QUOTE]
He shouldn't have shot the guy, but he probably panicked. When you panic you squeeze the trigger until you feel safe again.
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[QUOTE=Tetsmega;44088861]One time my parents saw a guy with an umbrella on his shoulder and they thought it was a rifle.
They even called 911 and followed the guy for a bit, but once they saw it was an umbrella they just told them never mind and left. Not really sure why that guy was carrying an umbrella over his shoulder on a sunny day.[/QUOTE]
Like a year ago Swat got called to a mall because someone called the cops on a guy with an umbrella near here....
[QUOTE=lintz;44060595]and no doubt the officer is going to get off scot free[/QUOTE]
And honestly from the sounds of things, he really shouldn't be fired for this.
For one, grabbing something that even could be mistaken as a gun is a bad move, as a cop is going to react instinctively to that due to training.
Second, cane rifles exist, so it could have been a rifle.
[editline]1st March 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Del91;44088912]He shouldn't have shot the guy, but he probably panicked. When you panic you squeeze the trigger until you feel safe again.
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Shouldn't have shot the guy, yes
But he did react as trained
[QUOTE=ridinmybike;44060625]he didn't just reach into his truck to grab something he grabbed his cane. The officer is a dumb ass[/QUOTE]
It's one of those things, you react to what you see and hope it was the right reaction. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADHoBijaqNU[/media]
Shit happens at the blink of an eye
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Shouldn't have shot the guy, yes
But he did react as trained[/QUOTE]
That's what I meant. :P
[QUOTE=RichyZ;44062056]the dinkheller video is p much mandatory for all cops in training to watch btw
mr cop correct me if im wrong tia[/QUOTE]
The only video I cant bring myself to watching anymore; even with the sound muted I can still hear his voice
Police brutality.
I'm dead serious.
[QUOTE=n0cturni;44060790]Not that I'm defending anyone when I say this, but it's generally a good idea to announce what you're doing to the officer before you just go and do it. Keep your hands visible.[/QUOTE]
Should people really have to fear for their lives like that during a traffic stop?
It's paranoia that causes these types of incidents. put yourself in the officers shoes, being a cop is a dangerous job and you have to be ready to react because someone could pull a gun and kill you in the blink of an eye. a lot of people don't like cops and you never know who you're dealing with when you make a stop.
[QUOTE=CanadianBill;44061767]I'm not saying what he did is right--but I mean, consider how awfully wrong traffic stops can go very quickly.
It's 7:30 PM, so it was probably dark (correct me here if it was still light out, but it's 7:30 right now where I am and there's no sun), and a guy goes down to grab a long item that could be mistaken for a weapon.
Warning: Very unsettling traffic stop results in officer death:
[URL]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e91_1324341647[/URL]
I mean, that video gives me chills, imagine having that in the back of your mind--the possibility of that, especially older men who, typically, aren't as willing to listen to cops, especially if they're veterans.[/QUOTE]
It's interesting how every time a cop kills or shoots someone this video comes up as though it's the shining example of why cops should continue behaving like the one in the article.
So a cop got killed on video, I could probably find you a couple videos of cops killing people during no-knock warrants or arrests.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;44095394]So a cop got killed on video, I could probably find you a couple videos of cops killing people during no-knock warrants or arrests.[/QUOTE]
Except those are completely different situations and you cant really compare them to this at all
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;44095394]It's interesting how every time a cop kills or shoots someone this video comes up as though it's the shining example of why cops should continue behaving like the one in the article.
So a cop got killed on video, I could probably find you a couple videos of cops killing people during no-knock warrants or arrests.[/QUOTE]
Could key a car being so edgy.
Theres a reason why its a no-knock warrant.
[QUOTE=CanadianBill;44061767]I'm not saying what he did is right--but I mean, consider how awfully wrong traffic stops can go very quickly.
It's 7:30 PM, so it was probably dark (correct me here if it was still light out, but it's 7:30 right now where I am and there's no sun), and a guy goes down to grab a long item that could be mistaken for a weapon.
Warning: Very unsettling traffic stop results in officer death:
[url]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e91_1324341647[/url]
I mean, that video gives me chills, imagine having that in the back of your mind--the possibility of that, especially older men who, typically, aren't as willing to listen to cops, especially if they're veterans.[/QUOTE]
holy shit why did i watch that, with the sound on :(
Update here on the trooper that shot the man:
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YORK, S.C. — The South Carolina deputy who shot a 70-year-old man during a traffic stop after mistaking his cane for a shotgun during an after-dark traffic stop broke down in tears as other officers arrived, according to dashcam video released Wednesday.
York County Deputy Terrance Knox is on administrative leave as state agents investigate the shooting last month of Bobby Canipe of North Carolina. In the video, Canipe quickly pulls over on the four-lane highway near Clover outside Charlotte after Knox puts on his blue lights and siren. Canipe's tag had expired about six weeks earlier.
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Knox begins to sob when another officer arrives a few minutes later and puts his arm around him.
"I promise to God I thought it was a shotgun," Knox said in tears.
Before showing the video, York County Sheriff Bruce Bryant urged reporters to put themselves in the moment and see how Canipe doesn't respond to the officer and pulls out the object in the dark. He said officers in South Carolina are allowed to use deadly force if they think their lives are in imminent danger.
"I would have had to take the same action he did," said Bryant, who has been in law enforcement for 42 years.
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When an ambulance arrived for Canipe, Knox breaks down even more, saying over and over again "why did he have to get out of the car?"
Knox can't been seen on the video as he fired the shots, but sheriff's office attorney Kristie Jordan said the deputy was out in the open with no cover and was trying to get behind his cruiser as he fired. She said Knox did not know the man's age, name or any other information as he pulled him over.
"This has been a very demoralizing, disturbing and disappointing time," Jordan said.
Bryant said the people insulting his officers forget they are human beings who have to work with the fear of not making it home alive every day.[/quote]
[url]http://www.policeone.com/officer-shootings/articles/6966525-Video-SC-cop-grief-stricken-after-traffic-stop-shooting/[/url]
Video
[url]http://www.wbtv.com/category/240205/video-landing-page?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=9938907[/url]
I feel bad for both of them. It's terrible the man got shot, but the officer was acting on training and instinct to a possible threat, and clearly the realization of what he had done broke him.
Its unfortunate people sometimes forget police officers aren't all cold-hearted tyrants.
[QUOTE=lintz;44060595]and no doubt the officer is going to get off scot free[/QUOTE]
even if he escapes the legal repercussions he has to live with the guilt of shooting an innocent person
unless you think cops are robots who don't have feeling or something I pretty seriously doubt he did this out of malice and he probably feels absolutely awful about it
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[QUOTE=Code3Response;44220657]YORK, S.C. — The South Carolina deputy who shot a 70-year-old man during a traffic stop after mistaking his cane for a shotgun during an after-dark traffic stop broke down in tears as other officers arrived[/QUOTE]
case in point
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