Ron Paul Signs Personhood Pledge - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33917537]Going by this, killing a plant should be classified as murder, because it too is made up of cells.[/QUOTE] Not human cells, you doofus [editline]27th December 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Helix Alioth;33919882]If you were to argue for that I can argue that sperm is life. BAN FAPPING.[/QUOTE] Sperm isn't human life though, so it's not protected under law. It only has half the DNA required to be human. Although you'd be correct in saying it's alive

[QUOTE=yawmwen;33923254]Good job not reading my post. Also trying to equate an issue that is completely subjective(abortion) with an issue completely objective(algebra), you show that you have no interest in a rational argument.[/QUOTE] Your post is an exercise in being vague and not actually confronting the situation at hand. Try again, scooter.

[QUOTE=notxmania;33923279]regardless of how you feel about the morality of abortion can't you realize that making it illegal generally leads to a lot more unwanted children, which has to proven to be [i]very, very bad[/i] for society in almost every way?[/QUOTE] Well the societal effects of abortion aren't very well understood. Some think it might have a positive effect on crime and poverty while others would (rightfully) say there isn't enough evidence to make that claim. However, I would also say that none of those things really matter that much on an individual level. I acknowledge that abortion is killing a human life, but I also acknowledge it is irresponsible and cruel in its own right to raise a child when you are not financially or emotionally ready for. So I feel fortunate that I am a man and will never have the possibility of making that decision for myself.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;33923858]Well the societal effects of abortion aren't very well understood. Some think it might have a positive effect on crime and poverty while others would (rightfully) say there isn't enough evidence to make that claim.[/QUOTE] Who? Who are these people, and why are they ignoring all the evidence of, like, everything that happened before 1973?

[QUOTE=TH89;33923932]Who? Who are these people, and why are they ignoring all the evidence of, like, everything that happened before 1973?[/QUOTE] The fuck are you even talking about?

[QUOTE=yawmwen;33924440]The fuck are you even talking about?[/QUOTE] i think hes referring to the people who don't think there's enough evidence to say abortion would be positive for society, and mentioning that in 1973 a large event happened which changed society for the better, and that this event was related to abortion [url=http://learn-to-read.idiot/]source[/url]

[QUOTE=Kopimi;33924550]i think hes referring to the people who don't think there's enough evidence to say abortion would be positive for society, and mentioning that in 1973 a large event happened which changed society for the better, and that this event was related to abortion [url=http://learn-to-read.idiot/]source[/url][/QUOTE] LBJ died?

All of you internet fan boys spouting viva la revolution and legalize marijuana wouldn't listen to me when I said that he was a conservative christian asshole just like the rest of the Republican candidates

[QUOTE=Kopimi;33924550]i think hes referring to the people who don't think there's enough evidence to say abortion would be positive for society, and mentioning that in 1973 a large event happened which changed society for the better, and that this event was related to abortion [url=http://learn-to-read.idiot/]source[/url][/QUOTE] The fuck are you even talking about?

How about you consider what happens when abortion is made illegal. Think about it. People will get abortions regardless of whether or not they're legal, the matter in question is how safe they are. It's the same deal with drugs. In the end, you'll have a far greater mortality rate of low-income women because they had to go to a backalley "surgeon" to get an abortion. and when these backalley abortions occur, you end up having [I]two[/I] people dying instead of just one. Not even considering where the money made by the backalley abortion doctor might go. So tell me conservatives. Lose one "life", or one "life" and a functioning, living, breathing human being?

[QUOTE=yawmwen;33924750]The fuck are you even talking about?[/QUOTE] Repetition! YAY!!

[QUOTE=Sanius;33920427]The "sanctity of life" is completely hypocritical bullshit. If the life of a parasite, bug, or germ is not sacred, no life is sacred. People end practically millions of "lives" every day without even realising or caring.[/QUOTE] Have you been watching George Carlin? [editline]27th December 2011[/editline] [video=youtube;AvF1Q3UidWM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvF1Q3UidWM[/video]

[QUOTE=yawmwen;33924750]The fuck are you even talking about?[/QUOTE] lol! pwnd~!!!! im beginning to think maybe you really are incapable of basic reading comprehension rather than just awkwardly attempting to zing everyone by pretending whatever argument they provide is nonsense

[QUOTE=yawmwen;33924440]The fuck are you even talking about?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=yawmwen;33924750]The fuck are you even talking about?[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v_wade[/url]

[QUOTE=znk666;33916867]Why did Obama agreed to NDAA? Now this guy is going to be in the office...[/QUOTE] For the love of--HE DIDN'T!

[QUOTE=joes33431;33924786]How about you consider what happens when abortion is made illegal. Think about it. People will get abortions regardless of whether or not they're legal, the matter in question is how safe they are. It's the same deal with drugs. In the end, you'll have a far greater mortality rate of low-income women because they had to go to a backalley "surgeon" to get an abortion. and when these backalley abortions occur, you end up having [I]two[/I] people dying instead of just one. Not even considering where the money made by the backalley abortion doctor might go. So tell me conservatives. Lose one "life", or one "life" and a functioning, living, breathing human being?[/QUOTE] I think that was the sound of a nail being hit on the head. Not to mention the whole choice aspect of abortion, plus how frequently religious zeal comes into it.

[QUOTE=TH89;33924873][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v_wade[/url][/QUOTE] Roe v Wade has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. Roe v Wade didn't lower crime or poverty rates, or more accurately, there isn't sufficient evidence that it did in any meaningful way. Purely on a moral standpoint, Roe v Wade is good for society to people who are pro abortion, and bad for society to people who are anti abortion.

Of course he's going to sign things like this. Votes are votes folks, and the pro-lifers can vote like the rest of America. On his website he states his religious views something similar to: "My faith is a deeply private issue, but I can say I accept Jesus Christ as my savior". While it says he's most-likely Christian, it says nothing towards the intensity to which he is religious or to which specific beliefs, a Pentacost is a lot different than your average Protestant; its vague. So Okay, he's a white male in his older years shooting for the position of U.S. President over a country riddled with insecurities and internal shuffling. The U.S. is a very diverse populous, so politicians in the position of Ron Paul's and the other potentials are essentially shooting shotguns into a barrel of targets to win; the goal is to hit as many as you can before the timer runs out. The article on his website is vague in its self to be honest, it says he holds to the sanctity of life and praises his OB-GYN past but it doesn't lay much in the way of facts. What this boils down to is that we shouldn't exactly focus on what issues these candidates are signing up for "[i]pre-office[/i]" (and outside of the big ones like our Economy and that) but how they plan to approach these topics in general. As we all know in today's politics; probably 75% of what is promised will never happen once that person enters office. So instead of focusing on whether or not Ron Paul signs a pledge on Personhood, figure out if he's got a plan for changing the way America views the born or un-born and if it ties into any other radical ideas. [b]*cough*[/b]Obama[b]*cough[/b]. If Ron paul signed for conception at insemination, had a grudge on Planned Parenthood, was an extremist pro-lifer, and signed this petition. Yes i might be worried, but only then. The dude is sharp as a [b][i]fucking diamond[/b][/i] however. He seems like a good choice for this next election. I'm losing faith in my country.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;33925140]Roe v Wade has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. Roe v Wade didn't lower crime or poverty rates, or more accurately, there isn't sufficient evidence that it did in any meaningful way. Purely on a moral standpoint, Roe v Wade is good for society to people who are pro abortion, and bad for society to people who are anti abortion.[/QUOTE] I know, I was just telling you what happened in 1973 since you seemed to be getting pretty upset about not knowing?

what the fuck he's calling himself pro-life now? [video=youtube;irx_QXsJiao]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irx_QXsJiao[/video] make up your fucking [I]mind[/I] edit cause my automerge is destroyed by th89 the destroyer "This whole idea that you have to take care of everybody" he implies it is a bad thing, but isn't that the point of the government? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????? hellooooooo wake up

[QUOTE=Keys;33925276]Of course he's going to sign things like this. Votes are votes folks, and the pro-lifers can vote like the rest of America. On his website he states his religious views something similar to: "My faith is a deeply private issue, but I can say I accept Jesus Christ as my savior". While it says he's most-likely Christian, it says nothing towards the intensity to which he is religious or to which specific beliefs, a Pentacost is a lot different than your average Protestant; its vague. So Okay, he's a white male in his older years shooting for the position of U.S. President over a country riddled with insecurities and internal shuffling. The U.S. is a very diverse populous, so politicians in the position of Ron Paul's and the other potentials are essentially shooting shotguns into a barrel of targets to win; the goal is to hit as many as you can before the timer runs out. The article on his website is vague in its self to be honest, it says he holds to the sanctity of life and praises his OB-GYN past but it doesn't lay much in the way of facts. What this boils down to is that we shouldn't exactly focus on what issues these candidates are signing up for "[i]pre-office[/i]" (and outside of the big ones like our Economy and that) but how they plan to approach these topics in general. As we all know in today's politics; probably 75% of what is promised will never happen once that person enters office. So instead of focusing on whether or not Ron Paul signs a pledge on Personhood, figure out if he's got a plan for changing the way America views the born or un-born and if it ties into any other radical ideas. [b]*cough*[/b]Obama[b]*cough[/b]. If Ron paul signed for conception at insemination, had a grudge on Planned Parenthood, was an extremist pro-lifer, and signed this petition. Yes i might be worried, but only then. The dude is sharp as a [b][i]fucking diamond[/b][/i] however. He seems like a good choice for this next election. I'm losing faith in my country.[/QUOTE] One of Ron Paul's campaign's strongest points is that Ron Paul is a straight-talker and an honest guy who doesn't "play politics" and mislead voters. Now you're defending his extremist views with "well, he's probably lying, that's fine, he's just trying to get votes."

Pissing this automerge piss /'

[QUOTE=Kung Fu Jew;33925341]what the fuck he's calling himself pro-life now?[/QUOTE] The government should not interven- Oh shit need to pander to the religious folk otherwise I'll never win

rick perrys already got them...ron paul is chanceless in this champagne.

Good thing I'm ok with this.

[QUOTE=TH89;33925347]One of Ron Paul's campaign's strongest points is that Ron Paul is a straight-talker and an honest guy who doesn't "play politics" and mislead voters. Now you're defending his extremist views with "well, he's probably lying, that's fine, he's just trying to get votes."[/QUOTE] Don't twist my words. Every politician touts that they are an honest guy who doesn't "play politics". Paul [i]does[/i] seems pretty damn legit in light of all the other candidates, but i'm saying all of them lie. [b]All of them[/b], if they told the 100% truth they'd all get half the votes they would get if they did. What i'm saying is we need to start looking past that, only because our society has bred it into the whole ordeal. I never defended his 'extremist' views, i said they all sound extremist when they're bidding for your and everyone elses' votes. Most any politician shooting for a spot like the Commander in Chief would tell you they're all on-board for going to war with China because they eat dogs if they they figured it would mean you'd vote for them. I am saying is that instead of looking at these "extremist views", which every candidate running always seems to have (Obama's Church pastor anyone?) but rather start looking at the quality of the person. Rick Perry for instance, i'm sure he's a nice guy with good intentions.. but i seriously don't think he's cut out for the position.

considering the racist shit he's said i think the quality of ron paul is pretty low.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;33924913]For the love of--HE DIDN'T![/QUOTE] What the fuck are you talking about yes he did

[QUOTE=Keys;33926282]I am saying is that instead of looking at these "extremist views", which every candidate running always seems to have (Obama's Church pastor anyone?)[/QUOTE] Haha yeah because attending a church whose pastor has said crazy shit is equivalent to personally signing a pledge to DO crazy shit.

[QUOTE=TH89;33925311]I know, I was just telling you what happened in 1973 since you seemed to be getting pretty upset about not knowing?[/QUOTE] You used 1973 as a rebuttal against what I said.