[QUOTE=Aznsniper911;32808850]Older hardware generally becomes more polished as time goes, SE and Nokia had a bunch of time to polish their phone's camera apple just threw out a higher MP camera to throw everyone off.[/QUOTE]
i can't even tell what you're getting at. But no, you're wrong, apple changed the optics, and the sensor, and the aperture. Basically, it's totally different.
[QUOTE=Aznsniper911;32808850]Older hardware generally becomes more polished as time goes, SE and Nokia had a bunch of time to polish their phone's camera apple just threw out a higher MP camera to throw everyone off.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.apple.com/iphone/built-in-apps/camera.html[/url]
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if you don't want to contaminate your vista pc, here, ill choose the best bits
[quote]The iPhone 4S camera gives you 8 megapixels — that’s 60 percent more pixels than the camera on iPhone 4. They’re engineered with a higher, full-well capacity to collect even more light. With more megapixels and more light, you’ll see a dramatic difference in the resolution and details of your images. [/quote]
[quote]Great photography isn’t just about megapixels — it’s about light, too. The all-new, advanced optics in this camera work together to make sure whatever light you have gives you the best image possible. The custom lens uses five precision elements to shape incoming light, which makes the entire image sharper. The larger f/2.4 aperture lets in more light, so photos look brighter and better. And the advanced hybrid infrared filter keeps out harmful IR light, so you’ll see more accurate and uniform colors.[/quote]
[quote] iPhone captures low-light and lots-of-light moods beautifully. So darks aren’t too dark and lights aren’t too light. Even action shots are less blurry. The next-generation backside illumination sensor is engineered with increased sensitivity and a shorter exposure time to achieve the same scene brightness — colors are less saturated and you’ll see more details. And the LED flash automatically kicks in when it’s needed (but you can always turn it off).[/quote]
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i highly doubt that's just "a few more megapixels to throw everybody off"
just like my phone. it's 5MP but it takes some alright quality photos once you shrink them down from a huge resolution.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;32786730]They always have something to bitch about, iDevices are just fine in hardware and software and there always will be hate, but there are lots of proof screen showing that the iPhone 4S (iPad 2) are faster then the Samsung Galaxy 2 but they don't care about this of course...[/QUOTE]
Those are GPU benchmarks you dumbass. The A5 uses Orion cores running at 1GHz, therefore it's impossible for it to be faster on the CPU front than the SGS II because the SGS II uses Orion cores running at 1.2GHz.
I'm looking to buy an iPhone 4S because it's a good phone. But my god, you guys are fucking stupid if you can't even comprehend how it can't possibly be faster on the CPU side.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;32813906]Those are GPU benchmarks you dumbass. The A5 uses Orion cores running at 1GHz, therefore it's impossible for it to be faster on the CPU front than the SGS II because the SGS II uses Orion cores running at 1.2GHz.[/QUOTE]
From a raw hardware perspective yes, but the software does have a role in how efficient the CPU is as well. To what extent it affects either or I'm not sure but I'm just saying it could be a factor.
[QUOTE=Protocol7_2;32813934]From a raw hardware perspective yes, but the software does have a role in how efficient the CPU is as well. To what extent it affects either or I'm not sure but I'm just saying it could be a factor.[/QUOTE]
Oh I agree entirely, good hardware can't shine if it has bad software(not saying Android is bad or anything). But the CPU itself in the SGS II is superior, it's a fact, get over it guys. Now the Mali-400 vs the SGX543MP2 is a different story. I think we've seen that the powerVR chip is much faster.
Maybe the CPU is better, but if the software can't take full advantage of it, it's not worth it.
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;32814009]Maybe the CPU is better, but if the software can't take full advantage of it, it's not worth it.[/QUOTE]
I was simply commenting on the claims that the 4S had superior hardware. I'm jumping ship from android specifically because of the stutter issues and the stupid ass manufacturer UIs, I'm well aware of how bad software cripples hardware.
It's essentially compensating for having an inefficient software platform.
I AM NOT ATTACKING ANDROID HERE, BEAR WITH ME
It's a flaw with any OS designed to run on multiple processors and platforms, it gets bogged down by itself. Same is true of Windows Phone, it would be significantly more efficient if it was written for a specific processor.
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;32814067]It's essentially compensating for having an inefficient software platform.
I AM NOT ATTACKING ANDROID HERE, BEAR WITH ME
It's a flaw with any OS designed to run on multiple processors and platforms, it gets bogged down by itself. Same is true of Windows Phone, it would be significantly more efficient if it was written for a specific processor.[/QUOTE]
Well windows phone is written for a specific processor now. WP7 only has phones using the QSD8250 SoC. And it's amazingly smooth.
I can attest that WP7 is lightning fast. Can't say anything about 3d performance since apps are pricy but everything else is nice. Far better than my 4G iPod and any Droid I've used (but I haven't used any new-gen dual core phones so that's why :v:)
I meant the older windows phone. That ran like a nans cunt.
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;32815138]I meant the older windows phone. That ran like a nans cunt.[/QUOTE]
oh yes
and it's UI was atrocious, nobody liked it whatsoever
i had 3 phones running both 2003 and 6
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;32815138]I meant the older windows phone. That ran like a nans cunt.[/QUOTE]
My old 2003 dell axim actualy ran faster than my ZTE Blade before I reflashed it.
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I liked the UI, it was familiar :(
I want one
[QUOTE=garrynohome;32813906]Those are GPU benchmarks you dumbass. The A5 uses Orion cores running at 1GHz, therefore it's impossible for it to be faster on the CPU front than the SGS II because the SGS II uses Orion cores running at 1.2GHz.
I'm looking to buy an iPhone 4S because it's a good phone. But my god, you guys are fucking stupid if you can't even comprehend how it can't possibly be faster on the CPU side.[/QUOTE]
Woah you're just as wrong as the MORE MP = better quality guy.
You cannot compare 2 CPU's performance by their Hz.
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Actually, take a look on this:
[url]http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/x86-core-performance-comparison/WinZip-14,2778.html[/url]
A comparison between a good number of processors, which runs at 3 Ghz and only one core enabled.
It is proven tho that the dual core in the iPhone 4S does a better job then the Galaxy S 2
[QUOTE=AGMadsAG;32819816]Woah you're just as wrong as the MORE MP = better quality guy.
You cannot compare 2 CPU's performance by their Hz.
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Actually, take a look on this:
[url]http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/x86-core-performance-comparison/WinZip-14,2778.html[/url]
A comparison between a good number of processors, which runs at 3 Ghz and only one core enabled.[/QUOTE]
Buddy. You don't understand what you're talking about. THEY'RE THE SAME PROCESSOR. They use Samsung designed Orion cores used in both the Exynos 4210 and the A5. The only difference is the clock speed and the GPU.
Jesus christ, did you even read my post? It even states the processors use the same damn cores.
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[QUOTE=darth-veger;32820550]It is proven tho that the dual core in the iPhone 4S does a better job then the Galaxy S 2[/QUOTE]
My god, is everyone here illiterate or are you guys choosing not to read? The Exynos is faster CPU wise. Because the A5 and the exynos are exactly the same except for the A5 being clocked lower and the GPUs being different.
The SGSII is not faster than the 4S, because Android doesn't take advantage of it. The performance of a phone using certain software in no way reflects the actual performance of the chip.
How long until the siri location data is updated for australia? It seems all the location answers given by siri only work for the US. Also, what are the differences between the 4 and 4S other than siri and the improved camera?
[QUOTE=Pace.;32823753]How long until the siri location data is updated for australia? It seems all the location answers given by sirionly work for the US. Also, what are the differences between the 4 and 4S other than siri and the improved camera?[/QUOTE]
Faster CPU and GPU.
Louder speakers.
New antenna design (no more deathgrip).
Possibly more.
[QUOTE=Nathax;32770214]Ahh the Nerds... *puffs cigar* Siri tell android fans they are gay and owned. 'Yes sir"[/QUOTE]
Best post I've seen in weeks.
i went to the apple store to see the difference between the 4 and 4S, there was a fucking line with at least 100 people waiting to buy a 4S.
Seriously I barely noticed any obvious differences other than the new camera and voice technology.
[QUOTE=mjbrooks194;32824711]i went to the apple store to see the difference between the 4 and 4S, there was a fucking line with at least 100 people waiting to buy a 4S.
Seriously I barely noticed any obvious differences other than the new camera and voice technology.[/QUOTE]
Dude, you could have done a quick google search to do that. And I hope you're not trying to make it like Apple's at fault for not allowing attending to your question. Just making sure about that part.
I've read the differences now, I hadn't really been online much for a week.
I just went into the store to actually try out the one they had on display.
The iPhone 5 is just going to come out in a few months, so I don't see the point in buying the 4S, I say iPhone 5 will be out around Christmas time, personally.
[QUOTE=Cyberpew;32826116]The iPhone 5 is just going to come out in a few months, so I don't see the point in buying the 4S, I say iPhone 5 will be out around Christmas time, personally.[/QUOTE]
then you know jack shit about the apple release schedule
[QUOTE=Cyberpew;32826116]The iPhone 5 is just going to come out in a few months, so I don't see the point in buying the 4S, I say iPhone 5 will be out around Christmas time, personally.[/QUOTE]
People have ended their 3GS contracts after the 2 years and need a replacement, hence they buy the 4S, when the 5 comes out everyone will want one so they won't need the push of contracts ending for people to buy it
[QUOTE=cueballv2themax;32826198]then you know jack shit about the apple release schedule[/QUOTE]
Well, I don't like I said, "personally" meaning, from my mind and what I think. I would make sense to release it then for sales purposes.
I have a feeling this thread will never end..
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