• Transgender teen leaves note on tumblr blaming Christian parents for suicide
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[QUOTE=Wii60;46835878][URL]http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/31/us/ohio-transgender-teen-suicide/index.html?hpt=hp_t2[/URL][/QUOTE] Holy shit the mom's comments are infuriating, still refuses to believe she was transgender and even has the audacity to say "we love you unconditionally, but we're gonna do fuck all to help you or accept you".
She is so stubborn, she still refuses to call her with the correct pronouns!
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;46835963]Holy shit the mom's comments are infuriating, still refuses to believe she was transgender and even has the audacity to say "we love you unconditionally, but we're gonna do fuck all to help you or accept you".[/QUOTE] people can still love you while not agreeing with major decisions you make in your life. i know this from experience.
he was satan tho [t]http://i.imgur.com/W7F3XBQ.png[/t] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Why reply?" - SteveUK))[/highlight]
Oh my god, those parents are seriously huge bitches and they should've died in this place. There are too many transphobes, and the lesser the better. I hope one day we can progress to a society where everyone can be whatever they want to be, but for that to happen these negative people who indoctrinate their children need to seriously die. Sometimes I wish there were people with big balls who would start militant groups who killed intolerant people like the parents. Maybe I would join if it was big enough.
[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46836306]Oh my god, those parents are seriously huge bitches and they should've died in this place. There are too many transphobes, and the lesser the better. I hope one day we can progress to a society where everyone can be whatever they want to be, but for that to happen these negative people who indoctrinate their children need to seriously die. Sometimes I wish there were people with big balls who would start militant groups who killed intolerant people like the parents. Maybe I would join if it was big enough.[/QUOTE] I agree in the hope for a society like that but murdering people is absolutely insane
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;46836315]I agree in the hope for a society like that but murdering people is absolutely insane[/QUOTE] Yeah okay maybe something a little less extreme, I'm just very upset right now.
[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46836306]but for that to happen these negative people who indoctrinate their children need to seriously die. Sometimes I wish there were people with big balls who would start militant groups who killed intolerant people like the parents. Maybe I would join if it was big enough.[/QUOTE] Jesus christ is this satire? Get help.
[QUOTE=Deng;46836326]Jesus christ is this satire? Get help.[/QUOTE] I had just read the letter and was upset. It is explained above.
[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46836349]I had just read the letter and was upset. It is explained above.[/QUOTE] I can understand being angry at the parents, but it's difficult to wave this away when you said you were wanting to join a terrorist group and then go around killing people. Transphobes have a right to life to, you can't just go around killing people, that's not how civilized society works.
[QUOTE=Deng;46836366]I can understand being angry at the parents, but it's difficult to wave this away when you said you were wanting to join a terrorist group and then go around killing people.[/QUOTE] It was just my emotions spiraling out of control. Of course I still want them all to die, in fact I think they NEED to die for a better society, but I would of course not actually kill them because that's not my judgement to make. Like I want all rapists and murderers to die, but I let the law system take care of that. You can't control what I think.
[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46836376]It was just my emotions spiraling out of control. Of course I still want them all to die, in fact I think they NEED to die for a better society, but I would of course not actually kill them because that's not my judgement to make. Like I want all rapists and murderers to die, but I let the law system take care of that. You can't control what I think.[/QUOTE] When your emotions are stable(r), yet you still think that a group of people in society [b]need[/b] to die in order to improve, that is really not healthy. I'm serious. Wanting a group of people to die in order to create a "better" society is indicative of sociopathy.
I live with a terribly Christian grandmother who tries the same type of shit on me. She kicked me out after learning I was transgender (in a rainstorm, had to sleep in a park and got bronchitis) and that's just one example. She forced me to attend religious "therapy" where I was bashed with the Bible and she paid heavily out of pocket for me to basically be put into panic attacks from the combined pressure. We don't get physical often but she is very emotionally abusive and this leads to me generally feeling quite depressed and suicidal some days, however I self medicate with various substances so most of the time I try to be too high to care about the abuse.
[QUOTE=Nifae;46836428]I live with a terribly Christian grandmother who tries the same type of shit on me. She kicked me out after learning I was transgender (in a rainstorm, had to sleep in a park and got bronchitis) and that's just one example. She forced me to attend religious "therapy" where I was bashed with the Bible and she paid heavily out of pocket for me to basically be put into panic attacks from the combined pressure. We don't get physical often but she is very emotionally abusive and this leads to me generally feeling quite depressed and suicidal some days, however I self medicate with various substances so most of the time I try to be too high to care about the abuse.[/QUOTE] Wow....that's just awful. See, its this kind of shit that puzzles me. How can you love somebody as one gender, but not the other when it is in essence the same person you loved? Perhaps I'm getting ahead of myself, I can only hope things improve for you in the future. Hell, I feel that way for transgender in general. I find it abhorrent that people can justify this kind of abuse bigotry, and hatred.
[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46836376]It was just my emotions spiraling out of control. Of course I still want them all to die, in fact I think they NEED to die for a better society, but I would of course not actually kill them because that's not my judgement to make. Like I want all rapists and murderers to die, but I let the law system take care of that. You can't control what I think.[/QUOTE] you are metaphorically hitler
Wanting to kill a group of people in belief it will make society better is pretty uh yeah that's pretty germany á 1939
[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46836376]It was just my emotions spiraling out of control. Of course I still want them all to die, in fact I think they NEED to die for a better society, but I would of course not actually kill them because that's not my judgement to make. Like I want all rapists and murderers to die, but I let the law system take care of that. You can't control what I think.[/QUOTE] No.
[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46836376]It was just my emotions spiraling out of control. Of course I still want them all to die, in fact I think they NEED to die for a better society, but I would of course not actually kill them because that's not my judgement to make. Like I want all rapists and murderers to die, but I let the law system take care of that. You can't control what I think.[/QUOTE] I'm genuinely curious, have you ever made a post that wasn't slammed on Facepunch?
[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46836376]It was just my emotions spiraling out of control. Of course I still want them all to die, in fact I think they NEED to die for a better society, but I would of course not actually kill them because that's not my judgement to make. Like I want all rapists and murderers to die, but I let the law system take care of that. You can't control what I think.[/QUOTE] You might want to look for a therapist.
[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46836376]It was just my emotions spiraling out of control. Of course I still want them all to die, in fact I think they NEED to die for a better society, but I would of course not actually kill them because that's not my judgement to make. Like I want all rapists and murderers to die, but I let the law system take care of that. You can't control what I think.[/QUOTE] i hope you re-consider what you just said soon and learn to be more tolerant because thinking people need to die is never a good thing.
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[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;46832041]Honestly, you may think you do, but if you haven't been through depression, you'll have little to no idea what is feels like.[/QUOTE] if you had read the conversation, then you'd know what i was talking about. i'm saying that someone who is detached from all feeling but worthlessness will not experience feelings like intimacy, connection or love for others. it has nothing to do with the person and everything to do with the depression. my point was that if you had a basic understanding of depression, you should be able to understand just why arguments such as jealousy or 'just manning up' are ridiculous.
[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46836306]Oh my god, those parents are seriously huge bitches and they should've died in this place. There are too many transphobes, and the lesser the better. I hope one day we can progress to a society where everyone can be whatever they want to be, but for that to happen these negative people who indoctrinate their children need to seriously die. Sometimes I wish there were people with big balls who would start militant groups who killed intolerant people like the parents. Maybe I would join if it was big enough.[/QUOTE] The weaklings must die. Only the strong will survive. Swedish masterrace [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Awful post" - Craptasket))[/highlight]
I wanna see this on Dr. Phil.
[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46836306]Oh my god, those parents are seriously huge bitches and they should've died in this place. There are too many transphobes, and the lesser the better. I hope one day we can progress to a society where everyone can be whatever they want to be, but for that to happen these negative people who indoctrinate their children need to seriously die. Sometimes I wish there were people with big balls who would start militant groups who killed intolerant people like the parents. Maybe I would join if it was big enough.[/QUOTE] You're insane. Seek help.
While it's a tragic event, it's also disgusting how there's people who send abuse to or wish pain on two complete strangers whose child just died.
[QUOTE=Solo Wing;46836590]Wow....that's just awful. See, its this kind of shit that puzzles me. How can you love somebody as one gender, but not the other when it is in essence the same person you loved? Perhaps I'm getting ahead of myself, I can only hope things improve for you in the future. Hell, I feel that way for transgender in general. I find it abhorrent that people can justify this kind of abuse bigotry, and hatred.[/QUOTE] Whilst I've never had to deal with anything as bad as what Nifae's describing there, my Dad seems to take it as a personal attack on him, and a loss. I don't really get how it can possibly be a loss since it's literally just making his child happier, but I don't know how the minds of (unfortunately) ignorant people work. [editline]2nd January 2015[/editline] On a side note, I'm appalled that not only are this girl's parents [I]still[/I] not accepting her as a girl even after her own death and intense desire to be referred to as one, but that her mother, from what I've seen, has been unbelievably transphobic and even blamed transgender people for Leelah's death. Absolutely unbelievable.
[QUOTE=Deng;46838260]While it's a tragic event, it's also disgusting how there's people who send abuse to or wish pain on two complete strangers whose child just died.[/QUOTE] She died because of their abuse. They are directly responsible for her death. The anger towards them is 100% understandable.
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;46838365]She died because of their abuse. They are directly responsible for her death. The anger towards them is 100% understandable.[/QUOTE] Perhaps understandable, but the parents aren't emotionless automatons either. The child they spent 16 years raising is dead, and I don't think they acted out of malice when the suicide happened. People who send and wish abuse on those that are mourning their dead child are still disgusting.
[QUOTE=Deng;46838443]Perhaps understandable, but the parents aren't emotionless automatons either. The child they spent 16 years raising is dead, and I don't think they acted out of malice when the suicide happened.[/QUOTE] Not malice; they acted out of ignorance. However regardless of their intentions they still should be held responsible.
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