Transgender teen leaves note on tumblr blaming Christian parents for suicide - Polidicks

[QUOTE=fishyfish777;46823963][QUOTE=Starlight 456;46823892]You can change your opinion, you can't change your gender or sexuality[/QUOTE] Why is that? Aren't opinions, gender and sexuality all mental processes based on one's personal experiences and brain chemistry?[/QUOTE] There's a whole entire nature-versus-nurture argument to be had, there's a lot of evidence that it's very much based on the structure of your brain at birth, prior to any "personal experiences", but the consensus among everyone who knows what they're talking about is that [B]it's super complex and no attempt can or should be made to change any of it right now[/B]

[QUOTE=Spastik2D;46824088]I genuinely hope that you're trolling.[/QUOTE] I just imagine fellas like him eventually grasping at straws and finally going "B-but two dicks/two vags can't have a baby!" SOn, we're living soon to be 2015. Artificial insemination and adoption are a thing. Unless you have something to say about the immorality of those things, I'll say nothing else.

[QUOTE=sgman91;46824094]History channel is sensationalist trash, never take it at face value. Sure, there are modern denominations that argue for homosexuality being fine in the Bible, but it goes against the long standing tradition. Since the very beginning homosexual sex (note that it doesn't say anything about desire) has been declared a sin by the church.[/QUOTE] I will never understand how you oppose homosexual sex, but not homosexuality and think that's fine. It's incredibly strange and put in practice would just cause a great great many people to feel alienated, isolated, alone, ostracized, and outcast as lesser beings for how they were made by God, supposedly.

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;46824117]More in particular the "don't take it seriously it's the History channel" thing. I mean come on, even Fox News occasionally does a story well.[/QUOTE] Eh, only said it because I actually looked up the stuff beforehand. Wait. Who are you talking to? Who are you calling stupid? I'm confused.

[QUOTE=Stockers678;46824113]Saw this on r/asktransgender - so awful! [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/2qsva5/my_best_friend_died_i_need_comfort_badly/[/url][/QUOTE] okay im so emotionally done right now im gonna go somewher else

[QUOTE=fishyfish777;46824122]Merely disagreeing with someone strongly shouldn't itself be an infringement on their personal freedoms, though I understand that direct attacks and insults are definitely infringing on someone's right to the pursuit of happiness but where do you draw the line of allowance between [I]their[/I] personal freedom to dislike things and [I]your[/I] personal freedom of not being disliked in an equal society[/QUOTE] Problem is society isn't equal. Most people in America don't give twenty-three pisses about trans rights. There is a dire need of a lot of changes in this country, and we need to do that by changing people's misguided opinions.

[QUOTE=Bobie;46824051][url]http://www.bible.ca/s-homo=sin.htm[/url] there you go. your move, buster.[/QUOTE] are you trolling bible quotes are so fucking vague, they could mean anything especially if they've been translated [quote]. Gen 19:5-8 "and they called to Lot and said to him, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them.' But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, and said, 'Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly.'"[/quote] this is about sex before marriage [quote] Lev 18:22-23 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Lev 20:13 "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death." [/quote] this is about how you shouldn't fuck another man's vagina [quote] 1 Cor 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals" [/quote] no man could inherit the kingdom of god anyways, the kingdom of god belongs to god [quote]1 Tim 1:9-10 "realizing the fact that (civil) law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers"[/quote] it uses and, not or. if you're a murderer and immoral and homosexual and a kidnapper and a liar and a perjurer then civil law isn't for them but if you're just one of them you're in the clear see i can nitpick the bible

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46824133]I will never understand how you oppose homosexual sex, but not homosexuality and think that's fine. It's incredibly strange and put in practice would just cause a great great many people to feel alienated, isolated, alone, ostracized, and outcast as lesser beings for how they were made by God, supposedly.[/QUOTE] just a lame way of trying to claim 'we totally don't hate gays' by just considering almost anything associated with being gay a sin

also your source is literally trash [url]http://www.bible.ca/s-homo-vaccine.htm[/url] a vaccine to cure homosexuality nice where do i order i think my cat might be gay

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46824133]I will never understand how you oppose homosexual sex, but not homosexuality and think that's fine. It's incredibly strange and put in practice would just cause a great great many people to feel alienated, isolated, alone, ostracized, and outcast as lesser beings for how they were made by God, supposedly.[/QUOTE] Everyone has the desire to do things that are wrong, the desire to have sex with people of the same sex as you is no different. I do agree that Christians put too much emphasis on homosexuality. The Biblical lists that include it also include things like liers in the same sentence.

[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;46824112]A better response to this argument is that pretty much nothing in our lives is natural anymore. Coca Cola, computers, guns, automobiles. Why condemn something as unnatural? Why does that matter? Are you Amish? We're not living in the 1500s anymore, we're not really all about nature like we used to be. [sp]I'm not arguing with you, just presenting an alternative counter-argument[/sp][/QUOTE] i don't even really understand the point of this 'natural' shit that people keep peddling. what makes something 'natural', the fact that it was made that way by geologic and ecological processes? gee, all the venom and poisons that nature's creatures create are natural, that must make it fantastic for my health. woops better throw that penicillin in the trash, i wasn't able to scrape it off of a rock at yellowstone, so it must be pretty awful. nevermind the fact that the human species is a product of nature and everything we ourselves create had to come from some 'natural' source.

I am so close to messaging her on facebook, but i'm not sure wether to do it.

[QUOTE=Nitro836;46824131]I just imagine fellas like him eventually grasping at straws and finally going "B-but two dicks/two vags can't have a baby!" SOn, we're living soon to be 2015. Artificial insemination and adoption are a thing. Unless you have something to say about the immorality of those things, I'll say nothing else.[/QUOTE] It's an issue I can still barely understand. We are all human beings. That's something that a lot of hipsters say, yeah, but it's still a fact. We're brains inside of a skeletal construct encased in flesh, doesn't matter the skin tone or mental differences. How is that such a difficult concept to grasp for some people?

[quote]1. How can I prevent my children from becoming homosexual? a. There is a "vaccination" for homosexuality! b. But first, you must realize that no one is born homosexual and being homosexual is a moral choice.[/quote] "homosexuality is a choice" my fat fucking asshole i wish i knew this so i could decide to stop sucking dick [quote] The vaccination for homosexuality is in fact this: Fathers, spend time with your children and hug and kiss and cuddle them and show them love and affection! [/quote] this is fucking gay just admit it

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;46824153]also your source is literally trash [url]http://www.bible.ca/s-homo-vaccine.htm[/url] a vaccine to cure homosexuality nice where do i order i think my cat might be gay[/QUOTE] he was trolling from the start bobie is not a christian fundamentalist bible-basher

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;46824153]also your source is literally trash [url]http://www.bible.ca/s-homo-vaccine.htm[/url] a vaccine to cure homosexuality nice where do i order i think my cat might be gay[/QUOTE] I can't get over the clipart they use. I mean I couldn't take the website seriously before, but the clipart really doesn't help it.

[QUOTE=sgman91;46824162]Everyone has the desire to do things that are wrong, the desire to have sex with people of the same sex as you is no different.[/QUOTE] what is wrong about it

[QUOTE=Spastik2D;46824168]It's an issue I can still barely understand. We are all human beings. That's something that a lot of hipsters say, yeah, but it's still a fact. We're brains inside of a skeletal construct encased in flesh, doesn't matter the skin tone or mental differences. How is that such a difficult concept to grasp for some people?[/QUOTE] At the end, we are all just Skeletons waiting to be drafted into the Great Skeleton War.

When I get asked these things, I have a very clear answer. Love is where you find it. Forget everything else and love who you like. As long as it's sapient, capable of consent and fully sexually mature, have at it all you want.

[QUOTE=Cone;46824181]he was trolling from the start bobie is not a christian fundamentalist bible-basher[/QUOTE] oh shit now I feel like a dumbass in my defense a lot of people who go here are batshit insane and it's a really likely scenario that posts like those are completely serious

[QUOTE=sgman91;46824162]Everyone has the desire to do things that are wrong, the desire to have sex with people of the same sex as you is no different. I do agree that Christians put too much emphasis on homosexuality. The Biblical lists that include it also include things like liers in the same sentence.[/QUOTE] You can't claim to care about homosexuals and then claim the acts they do are evil by the nature of the act. God created gay people and created the system by which they MUST be systematically oppressed away from the same things you might enjoy but deny to them. God created them with an inherit flaw. Can you explain to me how that works? Why we should believe that's true? Why we should actively oppress people because of that simple belief? And don't even go there saying you're not oppressing them. Demanding they be segregated into a class of people who aren't allowed the same carnal pleasures you are is oppression.

[QUOTE=Cone;46824196]what is wrong about it[/QUOTE] you get poop on your dick

[QUOTE=Vipes;46824185]I can't get over the clipart they use. I mean I couldn't take the website seriously before, but the clipart really doesn't help it.[/QUOTE] Don't give your kids the vaccine, this site's obviously a trick employed by Obama to implant gov'ment microchips in our kids to make them gay and vote Democrat. Illuminati confirmed. /shittyjoke

What if you gave your kid autism cuz of the gay vaccine Wooooooooa

[QUOTE=Spastik2D;46824219]Don't give your kids the vaccine, this site's obviously a trick employed by Obama to implant gov'ment microchips in our kids to make them gay and vote Democrat. Illuminati confirmed. /shittyjoke[/QUOTE] Eh, I make shitty jokes all the time. Just look at the last page when I quoted you.

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;46824225]What if you gave your kid autism cuz of the gay vaccine Wooooooooa[/QUOTE] I called it. My Knights of Columbus group leader warned me of this plot, they make these websites look like they're on our side but they're just pushing the Illuminati's agenda! You'll never make my kids into Homosexucrats, Barrack [B][I]Hussein[/I][/B] Obama!

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;46824140]Problem is society isn't equal. Most people in America don't give twenty-three pisses about trans rights. There is a dire need of a lot of changes in this country, and we need to do that by changing people's misguided opinions.[/QUOTE] As much as I support t̶r̶a̶n̶s̶ ̶r̶i̶g̶h̶t̶s̶ the right for whoever the fuck to do whatever the fuck they want as long as they don't infringe on someone else's personal liberties, if you're striving for an equal society, to to take affirmative action and say that the opinion of others is [I]misguided[/I] and has to be [I]changed[/I] is to use the opponent's argument word-for-word. You'd never get anywhere with both sides parroting a mirrored argument of each other. The question of trans-rights could be looked at in a perspective of not just trans people in specific, but a byproduct of the overall mentality that people are wrong and must be fixed because of what they are even if they don't directly affect anyone's personal freedoms.

The fact that are people in this thread (who have been mostly justifiably banned), trying to dehumanize transgender people makes me weep for humanity.

[QUOTE=fishyfish777;46824252]As much as I support t̶r̶a̶n̶s̶ ̶r̶i̶g̶h̶t̶s̶ the right for whoever the fuck to do whatever the fuck they want as long as they don't infringe on someone else's personal liberties, if you're striving for an equal society, to to take affirmative action and say that the opinion of others is [I]misguided[/I] and has to be [I]changed[/I] is to use the opponent's argument word-for-word. You'd never get anywhere with both sides parroting a mirrored argument of each other. The question of trans-rights could be looked at in a perspective of not just trans people in specific, but a byproduct of the overall mentality that people are wrong and must be fixed because of what they are.[/QUOTE] Well I don't really know any other way of describing "God says trans is bad" other than misguided. I mean I could say "dumbass" but that's just pointless flaming.

[QUOTE=Vipes;46824086]History channel, I beleive, even did a special on Homosexuality and the bible. Stating that said quotes were taken out of context, even pointing out a few homosexual couples in the bible itself.[/QUOTE] Funny how nobody noticed they were out of context all those centuries they were considered acceptable. And it's not like there isn't a cornucopia of objectionable lines on other topics. But since the Christian identity is more important than any of it's rules, it has always, and will continue to, confirm to society.