• China building the world's tallest building in 90 days
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They should take their time; 90 days isn't enough to ensure safety, imo.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;38524985]90 Days? I thought a good amount of time was taken making sure the building was built right? If that shit falls it could take out a huge chunk of the city, especially if its built wrong and doesn't implode downwards.[/QUOTE] I've read about the guy who's the CEO of the company in Wired. He became disenchanted by the rampant corruption in China's Construction industry, so he devised a construction process where something like 95% of the construction takes place in the factory where the building sections are manufactured. Then started a company around it. So, pretty much the only way construction foremen could skimp on costs would be to skip sections of the building, which would be obviously rather not possible. Also, as a side effect of being put together like a modern cruise ship, these prefab skyscrapers are absurdly tough, due mostly to the fact that everything is bolted to everything else. China has a very bad rep when it comes to building quality, but this seems to be the fortunate exception to the rule.
most of china's large buildings are extremely dirty on the inside, especially if they aren't super-high-class apartments.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38551086]You get people moving into a city with not enough houses. This leads in turn to overcrowding, poor sanitation, disease, social problems, etc.[/QUOTE] I meant if the people don't move, though someone already answered that.
[QUOTE=Clavus;38524979]Imagine a whole city with buildings like that, with sky bridges between them. [/QUOTE] Kinda like this? [img]http://ahkong.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/deus-ex-human-revolution-04.jpg[/img] :tinfoil:
[QUOTE=Map in a box;38556767]Kinda like this? [img]http://ahkong.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/deus-ex-human-revolution-04.jpg[/img] :tinfoil:[/QUOTE] Not that top heavy, but I imagined something like tall buildings with skyway bridges running between them, like streets, only elevated over the ground, with more streets below. The rooftops of lower buildings serve as Plaza's and Parking lots for people above.
I want to see something like this built :v: [IMG]http://www.tdrinc.com/images/photos/large/Towers04a1.jpg[/IMG]
I wonder what system it will use to prevent building sway. Once you get so tall the building is going to sway fairly significantly.
[QUOTE=RobbL;38567104]I want to see something like this built :v: [IMG]http://www.tdrinc.com/images/photos/large/Towers04a1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Wow, the Emperor of Mankind's summer home looks sweet.
[QUOTE=GunFox;38567314]I wonder what system it will use to prevent building sway. Once you get so tall the building is going to sway fairly significantly.[/QUOTE] in the original design it looks a bit pyramid-y so that'll help
[QUOTE=GunFox;38567314]I wonder what system it will use to prevent building sway. Once you get so tall the building is going to sway fairly significantly.[/QUOTE] I'm more worried about buildings being crushed under their own weight.
Wow that's awesome. I don't know if it's already commonplace, but it'd be crazy that you could live and work in the same building and never even go outside. There would probably be loads to explore
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38568577]I'm more worried about buildings being crushed under their own weight.[/QUOTE] They are likely reasonably sturdy. The buildings aren't legitimately being produced in the time frame provided. They likely take less time than normal due to the fact that they come from a permanent facility designed to produce building sections, but ultimately are pretty normal buildings it would seem. Five floors a day seems a fairly significant speed at which to certify everything though, I'll agree. Even if the sections are produced quickly, you still need to have someone coming through and checking all of the work.
I don't think it's that sketchy safety wise potentially. The parts just have to be checked as they leave the production factory before they're put into place, and after they're put into place, and continuously from then on during construction. These parts can be constructed months before the actual construction of the building, fabricated and stored, checked regularly during the waiting period, and then moved into place, relatively sturdy individual pieces well placed together shouldn't have any serious stability or safety problems as long as the individual parts aren't flawed.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;38568995]I don't think it's that sketchy safety wise potentially. The parts just have to be checked as they leave the production factory before they're put into place, and after they're put into place, and continuously from then on during construction. These parts can be constructed months before the actual construction of the building, fabricated and stored, checked regularly during the waiting period, and then moved into place, relatively sturdy individual pieces well placed together shouldn't have any serious stability or safety problems as long as the individual parts aren't flawed.[/QUOTE] The issue is that from the time they are produced to the time that they are installed, they still need to be checked. One of my co-workers used to drive the lead car for trucks transporting pre-fabricated homes (even when broken down, they tend to be oversized loads and require a vehicle driving in front and back warning other drivers of the size) and all manner of things would go wrong from the time they left the factory to the point of arrival. They couldn't exceed 55 mph (88.5 kph), but that is still sustained winds of 55 mph on exposed construction work. Things go wrong. So you have transport issues and the possibility of mistakes made during installation. I'm not saying it impossible to do safely, I am just amazed that they are willing to spend the money necessary to safety check five floors a day. You'd need an army of fairly well educated/skilled (and thus well-paid) individuals to perform all the checks in such a short time frame.
This tower will end only one way:[IMG]http://pics.filmaffinity.com/The_Towering_Inferno-872264718-large.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=GunFox;38567314]I wonder what system it will use to prevent building sway. Once you get so tall the building is going to sway fairly significantly.[/QUOTE] I was thinking this too. The Burj Dubai had to be specially designed to prevent low pressure forming on the opposite side of the building to the wind otherwise it would have ran into problems at that hight. Where as this building does not seem to have taken that into consideration, unless they're relying on pure sturdiness.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;38569448]I was thinking this too. The Burj Dubai had to be specially designed to prevent low pressure forming on the opposite side of the building to the wind otherwise it would have ran into problems at that hight. Where as this building does not seem to have taken that into consideration, unless they're relying on pure sturdiness.[/QUOTE] Aye, plus it has a series of fairly sophisticated tuned mass dampeners to keep it in check. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuned_mass_damper#Examples_of_buildings_and_structures_with_tuned_mass_dampers[/url] On a side note, I knew a few buildings had some form of pendulum system to keep them in check, but I didn't know the name (tuned mass damper) and was surprised at how many employ some form of it. EDIT: No wait, no it doesn't. It uses something else. Mixing my buildings up here. EDIT 2: Oh no, it does use something along those lines, I just don't know what.
This thing's been in the making for months. 90 days sounds like a reasonable assembly time considering it's all modular and whatnot. [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1191920[/url]
[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;38573039]Wont this be some kind of record?[/QUOTE] I don't think building the worlds tallest building is going to break any records no.
When can we turn the Earth into Coruscant?
[QUOTE=Falubii;38576659]When can we turn the Earth into Coruscant?[/QUOTE] give it a few millennia and update me then
[QUOTE=Swebonny;38550528]That they were ugly :v: [editline]22nd November 2012[/editline] i think this pre-fab stuff is quite cool. Imagine in the future where there are loads of factories producing walls and stuff. Instead of buying a finished house, you select how you'd like it to look and they'll assemble it on spot.[/QUOTE] this already kinda exists [url]http://www.huf-haus.com/en/home.html[/url]
[QUOTE=mike;38591628]this already kinda exists [url]http://www.huf-haus.com/en/home.html[/url][/QUOTE] Yeah I remember watching Grand Designs with my mum like 7 years ago and they had stuff like this
[QUOTE=RobbL;38567104]I want to see something like this built :v: [IMG]http://www.tdrinc.com/images/photos/large/Towers04a1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] That looks like shit.
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