• Fukushima officially declared as bad as Chernobyl
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[QUOTE=mobrockers alt;29127279]Even we give off radiation ourself.[/QUOTE] Even house radiators give off radiation :tinfoil:
[QUOTE=lavacano;29121930]No they didn't. We got our revenge when we dropped bombs on their shit. of course back then we didn't know that an A-bomb could level an entire fucking city. We just figured "Eye for an Eye" and built a big enough bomb to take out a military base.[/QUOTE] The U.S. government was well aware that the thing would be shit. And if they didn't, why did they drop the secong bomb some time after? Not to say this post is directly stupid, but you're pretty gullible if you believe that. The bomb was simply a way for the U.S to wawe it's military power dick in the face of the USSR. Nothing else. It did save some american lives, but who are one to say that so many civilian deaths was better than the one of soldiers?
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;29128077]The U.S. government was well aware that the thing would be shit. And if they didn't, why did they drop the secong bomb some time after? Not to say this post is directly stupid, but you're pretty gullible if you believe that. The bomb was simply a way for the U.S to wawe it's military power dick in the face of the USSR. Nothing else. It did save some american lives, but who are one to say that so many civilian deaths was better than the one of soldiers?[/QUOTE]There would have been far more civilian deaths if the US continued firebombing the cities, then committed to a mainland invasion.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;29128104]There would have been far more civilian deaths if the US continued firebombing the cities, then committed to a mainland invasion.[/QUOTE] That's up for debate, and you may be right. I'm simply pointing out that it was pretty gullible to think that the U.S. government had no idea of it's power.
Whoever went into the area in that video has some serious problems.
I can't wait for STALKER: Shadow of Fukushima :allears:
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;29125212]It was hit with a huge 8.1 earthquake, dozens of aftershocks including other major ones such as yesterdays 7.1, there's only so much you can do aganst earthquakes. The plant itself if 40 years old also[/QUOTE] The OG earthquake that started this all was actually a 9.0, so yeah, the plants did pretty good considering.
Well this is bad. I dont think this has even got as worse as it is going to get. The reactor is still releasing radiation. As in, it is getting worse, and the exclusion zone is going to have to be expanded. This is awful.
chernobyl was a 7 because the scale doesn't go higher than 7 if we were doing this on a scale of nuclear material released, chernobyl would be in triple-figures
[QUOTE=Apple Pi;28836251]I wonder if Japan will turn out like Chernobyl[/QUOTE] ?????????
[QUOTE=Apple Pi;29139607]?????????[/QUOTE]Profit?
[QUOTE=lavacano;29121930]No they didn't. We got our revenge when we dropped bombs on their shit. of course back then we didn't know that an A-bomb could level an entire fucking city. We just figured "Eye for an Eye" and built a big enough bomb to take out a military base.[/QUOTE] They kind of did know that it could level an entire city, seeing as they conducted manymanymany tests before the Little Boy was dropped.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R: shadow of fukishima [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Hurr Durr Stalker" - Asaratha))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;29128156]That's up for debate, and you may be right. I'm simply pointing out that it was pretty gullible to think that the U.S. government had no idea of it's power.[/QUOTE] No. It's really not. More people died in the firebombing of Tokyo than were killed by Little Boy. Even conservative estimates of Operation Downfall were in the high hundreds of thousands, and that's just soldiers. 9 Japanese divisions, 540,000 men were entrenched on the Japanese coast, supported by 5,000 kamikaze aircraft and hundreds of coastal guns. [quote]Nearly 500,000 Purple Heart medals were manufactured in anticipation of the casualties resulting from the invasion of Japan. To the present date, all the American military casualties of the sixty years following the end of World War II—including the Korean and Vietnam Wars—have not exceeded that number. In 2003, there were still 120,000 of these Purple Heart medals in stock.There are so many in surplus that combat units in Iraq and Afghanistan are able to keep Purple Hearts on-hand for immediate award to wounded soldiers on the field.[/quote]
I'm going to donate some more
What nobody reports is that the radiation levels of Fukushima over one month is only 10% of what was released at Chernobyl in one instant. The rating scale for nuclear disasters is terribad. Also the 7 is only achieved by adding up 7 level 5 locations (the reactors themselves)
[QUOTE=Pr0vologne;29121630]Damn, can things seriously get any worse in Japan?[/QUOTE] Mutated giant lizards that breath laser beams?
What'll be really interesting to see is how Japan recovers from this incident. I think the way the ukraine handled it back with Chernobyl was pretty interesting for the time period, with the construction of the sarcophagus and an exclusion zone. But this looks like it'll be a whole different story than Chernobyl ever was, simply because Japan has better resources and information, it might be able to devise a more eco-friendly solution then to drop a big fat steel cage overtop the reactor. Then again they live on an island, and space is pretty important there from what I can image, so I think they'll be trying to reclaim some of the irradiated land in a dime or two. Who knows!
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;29128077]The U.S. government was well aware that the thing would be shit.[/quote] Where are you reading this? I'm getting my shit directly from my textbook. [quote]And if they didn't, why did they drop the second bomb some time after?[/quote] We gave them three days to surrender after that. What we didn't realize is three days isn't enough to clear out enough damage to send a simple Boolean response to the question "Do you surrender?". Especially since we didn't know that it would level [b]almost the entire fucking city[/b]. [quote]Not to say this post is directly stupid, but you're pretty gullible if you believe that.[/quote] Fuck you too, buddy. [quote]who are one to say that so many civilian deaths was better than the one of soldiers?[/QUOTE] [quote]we didn't know that it would level [b]almost the entire fucking city[/b].[/quote]
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;29128077]The U.S. government was well aware that the thing would be shit. And if they didn't, why did they drop the secong bomb some time after? Not to say this post is directly stupid, but you're pretty gullible if you believe that. The bomb was simply a way for the U.S to wawe it's military power dick in the face of the USSR. Nothing else. It did save some american lives, but who are one to say that so many civilian deaths was better than the one of soldiers?[/QUOTE] Listen. It didn't just save those soldiers. It saved us all. Nuking two cities showed two things: 1. Why you should never use nukes. Because of the unimaginable horror and destruction they cause. It was a warning, and without it someone else would have been nuked later. Could have been us. We didn't know how it would affect it. 2. The second bomb, while it wasn't exactly necessary, and was rather pointless, you'd think. But think about it. It showed the destruction again, to the world. More radiation was made, more harm was done. It also showed that the United States would do whatever it needed to do to win. It honestly made us look cold blooded, powerful and calculating. We were willing to, and we did nuke two cities of people who fucked with us. It let others know what would happen, how bad it would be. It also ensured the USSR didn't end up taking Japan, which we were against because we wanted to halt the spread of Communism as well. [editline]13th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;29141819]What nobody reports is that the radiation levels of Fukushima over one month is only 10% of what was released at Chernobyl in one instant. The rating scale for nuclear disasters is terribad. Also the 7 is only achieved by adding up 7 level 5 locations (the reactors themselves)[/QUOTE] Chernobyl turned an entire fucking forest red. I believe that explains it accurately enough. As well, the helicopters attempting to dump shit on it to cool it off, in Chernobyl? The pilots got near lethal doses of radiation before they could successfully do it. Half the time they didn't succeed. That shows you how much worse it was.
[QUOTE=SSBMX;29125585]If you read the article you will see that it states it could reach the level of Chernobyl.[/QUOTE] It is simply impossible for fukushima to go chernobyl, the thing that made chernobyl go chernobyl was the graphite shield, which was highly radioactive, catching on fire and spreading the radiation with smoke into neighboring countries. [editline]13th April 2011[/editline] I'm getting really tired of repeating myself. [editline]13th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Lamar;29126910]Looks like my predictions are becoming true [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1071018-Prepare-for-an-influx-of-Japanese-citizens[/url] I told you guys, But I guess some crap mod took it upon herself to ban me instead because apparently saying something like that is trolling.[/QUOTE] Nope, that thread was idiotic, and so are you for thinking that.
[QUOTE=Crimor;29148292]It is simply impossible for fukushima to go chernobyl, the thing that made chernobyl go chernobyl was the graphite shield, which was highly radioactive, catching on fire and spreading the radiation with smoke into neighboring countries.[/QUOTE] So you're implying that since the same design issue is not the fault at Fukushima, the same level of damage can't happen? Son, it doesn't matter what caused the fault if it's leaking radioactive garbage into the ecosystem and atmosphere.
[QUOTE=Snail562;29121996]This entire Fukushima incident is marketing propaganda to increase hype for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2.[/QUOTE] Except it will be called Desu stalker deluxe 2, so the anime guys will buy it and think they can stalk anime girls.
Damn this sucks, I hope Japan can recover from this. I have no doubt that they can, but I wonder how long it will take. Lets just hope that things don't get worse over there.
If this really was as bad as Chernobyl, there would be no more Japan.
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;29125212]It was hit with a huge 8.1 earthquake, dozens of aftershocks including other major ones such as yesterdays 7.1, there's only so much you can do aganst earthquakes. The plant itself if 40 years old also[/QUOTE] It also got hit by a big ass wave. Not a friendly Hi there wave, but a Fuck yo shit, wave
[QUOTE=Jenkem;29148655]So you're implying that since the same design issue is not the fault at Fukushima, the same level of damage can't happen? Son, it doesn't matter what caused the fault if it's leaking radioactive garbage into the ecosystem and atmosphere.[/QUOTE] Okay then, please tell me what exact part of the fukushima plant that could cause a chernobyl like spread of radiation, since it does not use a flammable shield like chernobyl did, which was the only reason the radiation spread so far.
[QUOTE=Lamar;29126910]Looks like my predictions are becoming true [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1071018-Prepare-for-an-influx-of-Japanese-citizens[/url] I told you guys, But I guess some crap mod took it upon herself to ban me instead because apparently saying something like that is trolling.[/QUOTE]Haha! He got perma'd; good riddance.
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[QUOTE=Jenkem;29148655]So you're implying that since the same design issue is not the fault at Fukushima, the same level of damage can't happen? Son, it doesn't matter what caused the fault if it's leaking radioactive garbage into the ecosystem and atmosphere.[/QUOTE]Answer me these questions 3, 'ere the truth of the devastation you seek. 1: Do the Fukushima reactors use flammable graphite moderators? 2: Did the reactor core explode (not the building around it, the actual core 3: Was the cooling deliberately shut down? The answers are no, no and no. The steam explosion inside the actual core, and the graphite moderators being set on fire were the main culprits for the radioactive material being spread as far as it did. Fukushima has neither; it's cracked and some material leaked inside the building. The vast majority of the radiation released from Fukushima comes from the steam being released from the reactor, and radioactive coolant water being dumped into the ocean.
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