Tomas Young, Dying Iraq War Veteran, Pens 'Last Letter' To Bush, Cheney On War's 10th Anniversary - Polidicks

[QUOTE=plunger435;39985002]Posts like these are way to self important to be taken seriously. The idea that we should seriously consider executing individuals who fail to lead our country, and make erroneous descions such as the iraq war, is the kind of pseudophilosophy that this country also doesn't need.[/QUOTE] dude look at the post i was quoting. “It is with regret that I pronounce the fatal truth: Louis ought to perish rather than a hundred thousand virtuous citizens; Louis must die that the country may live” -maximilien robespierre

yawmwen are you seriously trying to do robespierre allusions in sh come on now

i thought people would get the joke

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[QUOTE=King Tiger;39983518]Why the generals?[/QUOTE] I have to agree with this one. Why the generals? You don't get to pick and choose your fights, regardless of rank. A soldier isn't his own man, he's a government asset.

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;39985808]I have to agree with this one. Why the generals? You don't get to pick and choose your fights, regardless of rank. A soldier isn't his own man, he's a government asset.[/QUOTE] covering up crimes of war including(but not limited to) helicopters firing on unarmed people.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;39985709]i thought people would get the joke[/QUOTE] Considering how many people here make "the French are wussy" jokes, I don't they've covered the French Revolution

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39983064]or wolves in sheeps clothing[/QUOTE] Not clothing that looks like sheep, mind you, just the sort of things that sheep like to wear.

[QUOTE=NoDachi;39982972]His case also reminds me of this quote from a first world war poet Samuel Hynes:[/QUOTE] Uh, actually, general staff on all sides of the Great War were extremely intelligent, capable men faced with an enormous challenge the likes of which military minds had never seen before. Doctrine and technology rapidly evolved throughout the entire war through means of both necessity and critical thinking; by late 1917, the Western Front had become much less static in nature and by March of 1918 it had pretty much once again became a war of maneuver. Most soldiers who partook in the war, like most wars, were in generally high spirits, enjoyed soldiering to a degree, were somewhat patriotic, had no nihilistic bitter qualities, and the vast majority of them survived the war unwounded, both physically and mentally. There wasn't any widespread anti-war sentiment amongst the fighting forces. Your "first world war poet" is actually a historian born in 1924. This concept of "lions lead by donkeys" is an unfounded myth and the result of post war revisionism and literary influence from people completely disconnected from actual combat. Your average hollywood "human wave charge into machine guns" is just that, a hollywood invention for the purpose of drama. In actuality the average infantry attack on the western front involved strikingly modern patterns of fire and maneuver followed by a direct close quarters assault on the enemy trench system. Popular perception of the war, like most wars, is based more on unfounded emotion than actual fact or historical accuracy, and the further we move away from it in time the further we move away from the facts.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;39982499][IMG]http://images.dangerousminds.net/uploads/images/thioansnsnsnsn.jpg[/IMG] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/19/tomas-young-letter-iraq_n_2908335.html[/url] can't wait for the "both sides" appeasers with zero critical thinking skills to rush into this thread to poor Bush's aid[/QUOTE] [quote]"both sides" appeasers[/quote] Sorry if i read this wrong but did you say moderates are appeasers?

[QUOTE=mastermaul;39986707]Uh, actually, general staff on all sides of the Great War were extremely intelligent, capable men faced with an enormous challenge the likes of which military minds had never seen before. Doctrine and technology rapidly evolved throughout the entire war through means of both necessity and critical thinking; by late 1917, the Western Front had become much less static in nature and by March of 1918 it had pretty much once again became a war of maneuver. Most soldiers who partook in the war, like most wars, were in generally high spirits, enjoyed soldiering to a degree, were somewhat patriotic, had no nihilistic bitter qualities, and the vast majority of them survived the war unwounded, both physically and mentally. There wasn't any widespread anti-war sentiment amongst the fighting forces. Your "first world war poet" is actually a historian born in 1924. This concept of "lions lead by donkeys" is an unfounded myth and the result of post war revisionism and literary influence from people completely disconnected from actual combat. Your average hollywood "human wave charge into machine guns" is just that, a hollywood invention for the purpose of drama. In actuality the average infantry attack on the western front involved strikingly modern patterns of fire and maneuver followed by a direct close quarters assault on the enemy trench system. Popular perception of the war, like most wars, is based more on unfounded emotion than actual fact or historical accuracy, and the further we move away from it in time the further we move away from the facts.[/QUOTE] I don't think you understand what was meant "Stupid battles planned by Stupid generals". It doesn't matter if they were intelligent or good generals, that was never the point. They could have been the best military strategists in our entire history and that quote would still be correct. Millions of people died for nothing. Its the definition of stupid, to sleepwalk into that.

If no one won in the Iraq war but the lobbyists and the Arms Industry, and the Arms Industry is obviously part of our Military-Industrial complex, isn't it safe to say that wars like the Iraq War are a symptom of an inherently flawed American economic system? I mean, realistically, if you want to hit the problem on the head you need to aim higher than the puppets in government.

[QUOTE=Reimu;39989837]If no one won in the Iraq war but the lobbyists and the Arms Industry, and the Arms Industry is obviously part of our Military-Industrial complex, isn't it safe to say that wars like the Iraq War are a symptom of an inherently flawed American economic system? I mean, realistically, if you want to hit the problem on the head you need to aim higher than the puppets in government.[/QUOTE] You mean Eisenhower was right all along?

[QUOTE=The Baconator;39982499][IMG]Tomas Young, Dying Iraq War Veteran, Pens 'Last Letter' To Bush, Cheney On War's 10th Anniversary[/QUOTE] Joke's on him. George Bush can't read.

[QUOTE=NoDachi;39989889]You mean Eisenhower was right all along?[/QUOTE] He pretty much coined the term after all :v: