[QUOTE=Reds;34189986]Is there some kind of intelligence test that you have to take to be a Republican, and if you pass it, they don't let you in?[/QUOTE]
What's sad is that there are some actually-intelligent Republicans that exist in this country and have valid points against the Democrats' main positions, but they're overshadowed by the dipshit Republican, American populous.
A populous that favours a man who defines courage as saying you're Christian in a nation that is 85 percent Christian, a crazy women whose stare could kill moose without a helicopter and is so isolated from mainstream America she could just be Russian this time looking over her fence into Sarah Palin's house, a young person that seems to have escaped from a mental institution that only broadcasted Ayn Rand quotations on the PA system, a man that looks like he might die at any moment now (and looks like he could be John McCain's grandfather) and despite being so well-read on history missed the part where the US tried all his policies and they didn't work; a guy that tries to hide the real, actually-happening class war by turning it into a talking point for his party, and a dude that no one liked in the 90s who bitched about every little fucking thing and was always pompous and immature, even when he finally fucking resigned.
[QUOTE=Reds;34189986]Is there some kind of intelligence test that you have to take to be a Republican, and if you pass it, they don't let you in?[/QUOTE]
Plenty of smart Republicans, they say dumb things to get dumber voters. Smart enough to exploit a system that force-feeds people garbage information. It's no coincidence that Fox News is the #1 news channel in America and also the most conservative.
Right when I read 'envy', I snapped a little.
[QUOTE=GlebGuy;34191101]Right when I read 'envy', I snapped a little.[/QUOTE]
How do you snap a little?
I drove off a cliff a little bit yesterday. Not enough to like, fall off a cliff, but enough to fall off a cliff.
[quote]merit-based society, rather than an entitlement society[/quote]
so i take it he is for a 100% inheritance tax, wouldn't want people feeling entitled to their ancestor's wealth
[editline]13th January 2012[/editline]
yes mitt romney, son of a CEO, gained all his wealth through merit alone
Oh look, a republican spouting insane nonsense.
Moving on.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34191561]How do you snap a little?
I drove off a cliff a little bit yesterday. Not enough to like, fall off a cliff, but enough to fall off a cliff.[/QUOTE]
You drive off a little cliff.
[QUOTE=Spooter;34187910]Guys, remember he probably doesn't really think this. He'll flip flop to supporting the little man within the month.[/QUOTE]
I think this IS him supporting the little man.
[editline]13th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34191561]How do you snap a little?
I drove off a cliff a little bit yesterday. Not enough to like, fall off a cliff, but enough to fall off a cliff.[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing he snapped for a brief period of time.. Shorter than how long one usually stays snapped.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;34188028]Education requires a lot of money. If you don't have money, you won't go to college, and you probably won't be as successful as someone like Mitt Romney because of it.[/QUOTE]
In the Netherlands we have a saying that essentially states that '[i]if you are born a dime, you'll never be a dollar[/i]'.
George Carlin said it best. "It's called the American dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it."
The fundemental flaw in giving out bonuses is that economists still think bonuses are nessesairy to improve or by this point maintain the level of competence. They think people need incentives or they won't do their job properly. It's pretty obvious bonuses do the opposite (find creative ways to get the bonus with the least effort ).
We need more people like this guy:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4vTiYM4m24[/media]
[QUOTE=James*;34191899]so i take it he is for a 100% inheritance tax, wouldn't want people feeling entitled to their ancestor's wealth
[editline]13th January 2012[/editline]
yes mitt romney, son of a CEO, gained all his wealth through merit alone[/QUOTE]
Nonono thats not what he is talking about. He's talking about the supposed entitlement mentality of those that expect the government to provide housing, jobs, money, etc. to the people of the country.
[QUOTE=sami-elite;34192423]The fundemental flaw in giving out bonuses is that economists still think bonuses are nessesairy to improve or by this point maintain the level of competence. They think people need incentives or they won't do their job properly. It's pretty obvious bonuses do the opposite (find creative ways to get the bonus with the least effort ).[/QUOTE]
Well, that's some backwards thinking right there. Incentives should go to the worker to increase output. High pay is nice for the man who plans everything but a bigger carrot doesn't make a smarter horse.
Watch this video and you'll see what I mean. It explains it far better than I ever could.
[video=youtube;u6XAPnuFjJc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc[/video]
[QUOTE=sami-elite;34192423]The fundemental flaw in giving out bonuses is that economists still think bonuses are nessesairy to improve or by this point maintain the level of competence. They think people need incentives or they won't do their job properly. It's pretty obvious bonuses do the opposite (find creative ways to get the bonus with the least effort ).[/QUOTE]
In reality it should be like "Here's an incentive, do your job or you're fired."
[QUOTE=thisispain;34189816]pff we're on the same forum that rides Ron "Reaganomics 2.0" Paul's dick.[/QUOTE]
Actually you and facepunch like to ride Obama's "Shittynomics 2.0" Dick
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34192440]Nonono thats not what he is talking about. He's talking about the supposed entitlement mentality of those that expect the government to provide housing, jobs, money, etc. to the people of the country.[/QUOTE]
That's a harsh generalization. The government should provide, first and foremost, equal opportunity to succeed. The greatest equality a nation can achieve is not Harrison Bergeron-esque total equality nor equality under the law. It is the equality of opportunity to succeed. One of the largest parts of the American Dream is the idea that even if your parents are poor, if you work hard you'll make enough to live a happy, comfortable life.
Unfortunately, the opposite is going on right now and it seems most Republican candidates want to exacerbate this.
[editline]13th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;34192512]In reality it should be like "Here's an incentive, do your job or you're fired."[/QUOTE]
See the above video.
[editline]13th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=supercopter;34192572]Actually you and facepunch like to ride Obama's "Shittynomics 2.0" Dick[/QUOTE]
Explain yourself or suffer a box storm the likes of which UPS has never seen.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;34192617]That's a harsh generalization. The government should provide, first and foremost, equal opportunity to succeed. The greatest equality a nation can achieve is not Harrison Bergeron-esque total equality nor equality under the law. It is the equality of opportunity to succeed. One of the largest parts of the American Dream is the idea that even if your parents are poor, if you work hard you'll make enough to live a happy, comfortable life.
Unfortunately, the opposite is going on right now and it seems most Republican candidates want to exacerbate this.[/quote]
Yup, and thats pretty fucked up.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;34192617]
Explain yourself or suffer a box storm the likes which UPS has never seen.[/QUOTE]
He could try, but he'd get boxed anyway and get replies like "its all the republicans fault" anyway, so there really isn't any point in trying.
Even if he could provide hard numbers showing that it isn't working, its still "all the republicans fault" because "they want to destroy the country" and "they're subhuman scum" and on and on and on.
Mmmm... when there is low income inequality hes marginally right I guess. But right now hes as wrong as wrong can be.
[QUOTE=Dysgalt;34192794]Mmmm... when there is low income inequality hes marginally right I guess. But right now hes as wrong as wrong can be.[/QUOTE]
I remember reading about an Italian man who did research on income inequality and found that it's unavoidable in society, but the amount can vary. Can't find him or his research again though. :(
[QUOTE=wizardsbane;34190098]a young person that seems to have escaped from a mental institution that only broadcasted Ayn Rand quotations on the PA system[/QUOTE]
my first thought was RON PAUL ISNT YOUNG
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34192440]Nonono thats not what he is talking about. He's talking about the supposed entitlement mentality of those that expect the government to provide housing, jobs, money, etc. to the people of the country.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqJhY9-qziU[/media]
what else is the government good for?
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy16;34187985]There's a difference between breaking down someone's campaign strategy to emotion appeal and saying people who are suffering and complaining are just jealous[/QUOTE]
I think you read it wrong. Clearly he's attacking both Obama's campaign strategy AND the idea itself.
Also thanks for that RSA video on incentives, I saw another RSA video recently about education and it's got me interested in thinking what our education systems and the current incentivized business model have in common. One of the big problems in both school and workplaces is the lack of autonomy. Having managers or teachers driving you, with stick OR carrot, isn't very fun. Definitely something I'd like to discuss more but this thread isn't the place to do it.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;34192819]I remember reading about an Italian man who did research on income inequality and found that it's unavoidable in society, but the amount can vary. Can't find him or his research again though. :([/QUOTE]
Its like an unwritten law for economics though, income inequality must exist in a modern society, no matter how disliked or appalling to some people it is. Someone must always be on the bottom rung, be that manual workers like immigrants working fields, or the cashier at a super-market. And there has to be someone that is sitting on the top. But if the distance between the rungs is so great a major problem starts to form, its next to impossible to close the gap in that situation. That's the problem we have on our hands right now; a massive gap in income inequality, it should be much smaller than it is right now...
[QUOTE=thisispain;34194528]what else is the government good for?[/QUOTE]
Deargod that explains everything. I'm gonna go ahead and bail on this thread before I get stuck in another stupid circular argument with you.
you're just scared of being humiliated.
again
[QUOTE=thisispain;34195491]you're just scared of being humiliated.
again[/QUOTE]
Wow badass alert
it's not always me that humiliates him
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34192440]Nonono thats not what he is talking about. He's talking about the supposed entitlement mentality of those that expect the government to provide housing, jobs, money, etc. to the people of the country.[/QUOTE]
pretty easy to say coming from a position of privilege
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy16;34187816]Misleading title, he's actually saying Obama is using feelings of envy for class warfare and to garner support[/QUOTE]
Implying the warfare wasn't started against the lower and middle classes long ago.
So a huge segment of the population on the fast track to complete poverty because they can't find any employment and can't rely on flimsy safety nets is just 'envy'?
[h2]FUCK. YOU.[/h2]
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