Microsoft Finally Gets Around to Fixing 17-Year Old Windows Bug - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Fables;19776740]Macs all the way man. :banjo:[/QUOTE] At my uni we have a specialised computing labs for the computer science school, we have a desk of 10 brand new, 27" iMac computers and about 100 other Windows and Linux machines, even when every other computer is taken I've only ever seen a maximum of two people using one, and then just to check their email.

[QUOTE=Hivemind;19784854]Oh yes, linux, the totally 100% bug free OS that can never have bugs or security issues ever because it was coded by a team of angels.[/QUOTE] It has less bugs and is therefore better.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;19784990]Not really angels, but a pretty strong community -most of the time-. Not even Haschefrosh can beat that. Although, when it comes to gaming... well... we could use some divine help :/[/QUOTE] I'm guessing you didn't get the sarcasm? [editline]08:32PM[/editline] [QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;19785022]It has less bugs and is therefore better.[/QUOTE] Perhaps, but that fact is debatable, especially since most bugs are unknown. And it's not just the number of bugs, it is the severity. Don't get me wrong, I like linux, but I also like windows, and it is a far better OS than some idiots give it credit for.

Windows XP will still be the greatest, and you all know that.

I'm sure this hasn't affected [B]that[/B] many people.

[QUOTE=Hivemind;19785028]I'm guessing you didn't get the sarcasm?[/QUOTE] Yes, I've got it ;) I know all OSes are imperfect and have bugs, it's just that, in Linux, they're fixed way faster.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;19785332]Yes, I've got it ;) I know all OSes are imperfect and have bugs, it's just that, in Linux, they're fixed way faster.[/QUOTE] Fair enough :P That's the problem I have with OSX, Apple takes forever to patch anything, at least MS patch their stuff quickly once they know the bugs exist (as in this case.)

My view: Windows suck, but unfortunately, there are things that can't be fully done on other platforms.

[QUOTE=Hivemind;19785375]Fair enough :P That's the problem I have with OSX, Apple takes forever to patch anything, at least MS patch their stuff quickly [b]once _They_ know the bugs exist[/b] (as in this case.)[/QUOTE] That's the thing... in Linux, once the user runs into a bug, the bug reporting tool is automatically triggered (in my case, openSUSE) and all you have to do is follow a pretty simple wizard to report the bug. Wait a few days and Presto, "update available". Too bad Haschefrosh never considered using a tool like that... it'd be pretty useful actually... :/

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;19785635]That's the thing... in Linux, once the user runs into a bug, the bug reporting tool is automatically triggered (in my case, openSUSE) and all you have to do is follow a pretty simple wizard to report the bug. Wait a few days and Presto, "update available". Too bad Haschefrosh never considered using a tool like that... it'd be pretty useful actually... :/[/QUOTE] What the heck is Haschefrosh, google seems to know nothing? Windows 7 has a tool somewhat like that I believe (not run into obvious OS bugs much), not sure how quickly things are patched though. The most problematic bugs would be those behind the scenes though, things like security vulnerabilities, where that tool is going to be pretty useless, which is where the open source thing comes in useful I guess.

[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;19772321]Actually it doesn't but noone wants to take the time to rewrite their programs and games for Linux at this point. Windows became the dominant platform and it will stay that way for a long time.[/QUOTE] Postal 2 is made for Linux, Mac and Windows. Doesn't that count for something? [editline]04:36PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Hivemind;19785375]Fair enough :P That's the problem I have with OSX, Apple takes forever to patch anything, at least MS patch their stuff quickly once they know the bugs exist (as in this case.)[/QUOTE] Apple just sits there and laughs, saying "lololololo their lyin cuz osx dont get viyruses".

[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;19769550]that really depends on what you're planning to do with your computer[/QUOTE] :q:

Linux (I only have experience with Ubuntu though) is a [I]lot[/I] easier to break than Windows. I know you are supposed to "know what you're doing", but I never managed to make it impossible install new program within 2 hours of use or completely disabling xserver accidently or getting a kernel panic everytime I boot or it just freezes while booting. I like Linux for what it is, a very customizable free system that's perfect for servers, but Windows is far superior as a desktop operating system.

All effort invested into Windows is done to give Micr$oft money. Nothing more, nothing less. The primary target is gain. The actual usefulness for the customer is only secondary, and needs to be fulfilled only to the degree, to sustain the primary target. Even, to a degree, it's unwanted to fulfill the customer needs completely and flawlessly, as it actually makes coming with anything new and useful harder. Most of Linux developers don't get paid for their work, so their only aim is to make it as good as possible. There is no point in doing things half-assed, when they can be done properly (oppositely to Microsoft's strategy). From not long time ago, starts Microsoft to be [b]forced[/b] into making actually good shit, instead of just repackaging the old one. Vista [b]was[/b] a flop, even through most of Facepunch disagrees, and in first time in history, new windows (7) were less resource demanding than their predecessor. No. It doesn't mean that Microsoft actually started caring about their customers. It means they are slowly starting to sink into deep shit. [editline]10:53PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Robber;19786418]Linux (I only have experience with Ubuntu though) is a [I]lot[/I] easier to break than Windows. I know you are supposed to "know what you're doing", but I never managed to make it impossible install new program within 2 hours of use or completely disabling xserver accidently or getting a kernel panic everytime I boot or it just freezes while booting. I like Linux for what it is, a very customizable free system that's perfect for servers, but Windows is far superior as a desktop operating system.[/QUOTE] You don't need to know what you are doing. You have to back-up, or be prepared to face the consequences. Yes, linux isn't foolproof. No, it doesn't make it any-much worse, unless you are a monkey.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;19786483]From not long time ago, starts Microsoft to be [b]forced[/b] into making actually good shit, instead of just repackaging the old one. Vista [b]was[/b] a flop, even through most of Facepunch disagrees, and in first time in history, new windows (7) were less resource demanding than their predecessor. No. It doesn't mean that Microsoft actually started caring about their customers. It means they are slowly starting to sink into deep shit.[/QUOTE] This doesn't even make sense. Why was Vista a flop? Why is Windows 7 bad? Of course they're only in it for the money, that's how capitalism works, but thankfully it does work. [editline]09:58PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Awesomecaek;19786483]You don't need to know what you are doing. You have to back-up, or be prepared to face the consequences. Yes, linux isn't foolproof. No, it doesn't make it any-much worse, unless you are a monkey.[/QUOTE] It does if none of your software runs on it, which is always the problem I have. I want to like and use Linux on principal, but I have no use for it. Plus, weirdly, I found it more unstable than Windows 7, perhaps that's just bad setup on my part. I really don't see the logic behind hating MS so much for being a company, the PC you're running Linux on is Capitalist through and through, especially if you have an Intel processor, I hear they're notorious for their rather immoral business practices.

[QUOTE=Hivemind;19786620]This doesn't even make sense. Why was Vista a flop?[/quote] It was terrible, mainly in the start. Most of people never used it, and stayed at windows XP. The requirements were obviously overblown, and the coding was shit, as Windows 7 have all the features, while being much less demanding. [quote]Why is Windows 7 bad?[/quote] Where did I say they are bad? [quote] Of course they're only in it for the money, that's how capitalism works, but thankfully it does work. [/quote] This is not about economic ideology. The point is, that Microsoft doesn't want to make good software. They want to make one that will make money. Linux is always done to be good. [quote] It does if none of your software runs on it, which is always the problem I have. I want to like and use Linux on principal, but I have no use for it. Plus, weirdly, I found it more unstable than Windows 7, perhaps that's just bad setup on my part. I really don't see the logic behind hating MS so much for being a company, the PC you're running Linux on is Capitalist through and through, especially if you have an Intel processor, I hear they're notorious for their rather immoral business practices.[/QUOTE] I hate them for the blatant lies they spread. Many of their campaigns heavily use misinformation and blackening the concurrency instead of coming out with actually better solutions. For [b]fresh[/b] example, [url=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=881932]this[/url]. Of course there are other companies, not only in the computer market, doing absolutely the same, but that doesn't make it any little piece better. And some companies, like Valve, keep making big money, while keeping somewhat open attitude to their customers. Makes free patches instead of these days so profaned DLC. They give complete modding support, and share their tools with the community. They could mine out awful lot of money out of those, but they don't.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;19787239] And some companies, like Valve, keep making big money, while keeping somewhat open attitude to their customers. Makes free patches instead of these days so profaned DLC. They give complete modding support, and share their tools with the community. They could mine out awful lot of money out of those, but they don't.[/QUOTE] This guy is totally not paid by Valve to say that.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;19786483]All effort invested into Windows is done to give Micr$oft money. Nothing more, nothing less. The primary target is gain. The actual usefulness for the customer is only secondary, and needs to be fulfilled only to the degree, to sustain the primary target. Even, to a degree, it's unwanted to fulfill the customer needs completely and flawlessly, as it actually makes coming with anything new and useful harder. [/QUOTE] Actually 75% of Linux kernel developers are employed by someone to work on the kernel. Some of the big names are Red Hat, Novel, IBM, and Intel.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;19793372]Actually 75% of Linux kernel developers are employed by someone to work on the kernel. Some of the big names are Red Hat, Novel, IBM, and Intel.[/QUOTE] Aren't you supposed to be on my ship? :saddowns:

[QUOTE=phill977;19770426]I don't see why people bash windows so much. I use Windows XP and it's a great operating system, sure it has a few bugs, but all OSs do. But i guess if you want your computer to be compatible with almost anything, then you should go with windows.[/QUOTE] Im still on XP to.