Only certain video games are art in the same way Crank 2 can hardly be considered a work of artistic genius.
[QUOTE=sltungle;24152272]Because of all of the anti-Halo bullshit I'm sure I'll get a tonne of disagrees for this, but: the Halo games in my opinion are stunningly beautiful. The architecture of the Forerunners and the Covenant is beautiful and detailed beyond what most developers would bother doing and the environments are beautiful as well.
I still get a sense of awe come over me when I play a Halo game and look across to the horizon and see the ground curve up into the sky and slowly become narrower as it curves over, above my head, and then comes back down behind me again.
Halo is the first game in my knowledge to ever contain a detailed megastructure and it's fucking beautiful. I'm glad SOMEONE eventually decided to detail one in an interactive experience.[/QUOTE]
Though the environments look nice, the games themselves are kinda meh. The story is pretty well put together but from your first person role not a lot is happening through most of it. Reach is probably going to be the first Halo game I like all around.
Only Halo game I thought was good was Halo CE and in that a lot of the rooms were complete copies of each other.
Oblivion is great. I love that game to death.
[QUOTE=Itszutak;24151264]Video games are as much art as action movies. I haven't seen a game that has convinced me otherwise. That's not to say that I don't enjoy videogames, but I'd be hard pressed not to laugh in the face of someone who tried to get a videogame classified as art.
It's rare that a game has as much of an emotional impact on me as, say, a good book or a classic movie. Most games are all action and minimal "deepness".[/QUOTE]
What the fuck is deepness.
Seriously, what the fuck is that.
[QUOTE=zombojoe;24153789]Only Halo game I thought was good was Halo CE and in that a lot of the rooms were complete copies of each other.[/QUOTE]
you are not a unique snowflake...ohwait, that's fight club.
The Mass Effect series and KOTOR series are indeed art.
edit: if you read the article below that it basically says how the guy gave up literature for video games.
nevertheless, I like a good rationalizer.
[QUOTE=Blanketspace;24150311]Oblivion is beautiful.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://images.devshed.com/dh/stories/Oblivion_Review/oblivion_interact.jpg[/img]
BEAUTIFUL!
Deepness is a bit like Q'ness, I doubt anyone will ever understand it.
Halfquake.
It's a mod, but I would call t art
Killer 7 was always art to me.
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And Psychonauts
Some of the scenes in Mass Effect are really artsy, prime example:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhrtw9AKRwQ[/media]
Silent Hill 2.
Shadow Of The Colossus.
Motherfucking Okami.
How is that not art?
:colbert:
I have always seen Bioshock as art. The gameplay was crap, but I managed to never notice it during my first playthrough. What made the game amazing was how artistic the levels were and how great the story was. I just wish 2K let them use the original ending. Would have been so much better.
Silent Hill 2 and, dare I say it, Ace Combat 4. Something about the last level when you first see Megalith and the beautiful music kicks in that just so perfectly fits the end-of-the-world scene set is just brilliant.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ6ABV_Q9qU[/media]
No ones saying Braid?
Tomb raider I, II and III are art.
Far better than the crap people have suggested so far.
Search Tomb raider music on youtube, it's beautify.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gZrnEARFeA[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO_tsGiA17k[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy0CT1QyYHE&feature=related[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5vlMxCoQ70[/media]
[QUOTE=Mamok Zalku;24162144]No ones saying Braid?[/QUOTE]
Never played it, personally. Wouldn't know from experience. Heard it was awesome though.
one time i saw an article in gameinformer trying to say super mario bros. was fine art and it provoked deep emotions lol
I don't know, so far games are only scratching the "art" part.
They either fail at visuals or story and thus lose their value.
I thought the Half-Life 2 series were pretty artistic but I really think that Metro 2033 is very artistic. From the story to the game play it's just really well done.
Saboteur was art, the whole black and white this was cool.
[QUOTE=Drasnus;24156951]
Shadow Of The Colossus.[/QUOTE]
That game is fucking beautiful
Anyone saying that games can't be classified as art clearly haven't played "The Path"
Or Russian games, those guys sure as hell got that covered.
Go search "I am empty walkthrought" in youtube and you'll understand
Zelda touches me in naughty places
[QUOTE=Hiccuper;24155806]Some of the scenes in Mass Effect are really artsy, prime example:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhrtw9AKRwQ[/media][/QUOTE]
ME2 had better gameplay, but lacked the "space epic" feel that ME1 had.
Same thing happened to SC2. The gameplay and graphics got better, but the story, characters and feel took a dive.
I don't know, I haven't played a modern game lately (as in the past 2-3 years) that really stunned me with non-gameplay aspects.
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[QUOTE=don868;24163676]I thought the Half-Life 2 series were pretty artistic but I really think that Metro 2033 is very artistic. From the story to the game play it's just really well done.[/QUOTE]
The old guy's speech about Moscow in Exhibition Station made me really sad
[list]Games are interactive. They are [I]made[/I] around their interactivity. So that you can press buttons and shit happens. So of course they're going to have some action in them.[/list]
[list]Videogames are made differently, for different reasons, and have to appeal to a different audience. They are going to be more different than what your narrow mind understands as "art".[/list]
[quote]Art is the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way to affect the senses or emotions. It encompasses a diverse range of human activities, creations, and modes of expression, including music, literature, film, sculpture, and paintings. ...[/quote]
Definition of art. Videogames fit it. Therefor videogames = art.
You guys don't understand what art is enough to be classifying something as art. Most of you think that art is a bunch of colors on a canvas made by some guy with 1 ear, which is stupid and I guess falls under the typical bandwagon syndrome that most people here suffer from.
Heavy Rain.
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