Missouri KKK Threaten Use of Lethal Force Against Ferguson Protestors - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;46490369]If you had read the article (objectively), you would have realized that they aren't going there to "incite racial violence", but to partake in what's basically vigilantism against protesters who use violence towards others, not to fight all the protesters. I don't necessarily agree with this type of vigilantism, but that's what it is.[/QUOTE] yeah i think it can be safely said that if there's anyone in the world with a universally pure sense of morality and above all responsibility, it's a lynch mob arranged by the KKK. they would NEVER hurt anyone who didn't deserve it!

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;46490369]If you had read the article (objectively), you would have realized that they aren't going there to "incite racial violence", but to partake in what's basically vigilantism against protesters who use violence towards others, not to fight all the protesters. I don't necessarily agree with this type of vigilantism, but that's what it is.[/QUOTE] Because the KKK has a good track record of vigilantism that isn't racist.

you squares just gotta be OBJECTIVE! the KKK can be completely trusted to perform this series of vigilante killings without bias or irresponsibility! [I]I'M THE [B]FACTUAL[/B] ONE HERE![/I]

[QUOTE=Cone;46490549]you squares just gotta be OBJECTIVE! the KKK can be completely trusted to perform this series of vigilante killings without bias or irresponsibility! [I]I'M THE [B]FACTUAL[/B] ONE HERE![/I][/QUOTE] I understand the satire in this post, but the KKK cannot be viewed objectively.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;46490606]I understand the satire in this post, but the KKK cannot be viewed objectively.[/QUOTE] they represent a reactionary and radical response that wants to disadvantage/hurt minorities. there's really no other way to represent them

I doubt that the KKK is going to do anything. They're just a bunch of dumb hicks that love to talk a lot of shit. That being said, it's awful that anyone would still want to join the KKK in the first place.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;46490313]what's laughable is the fact that everything you accused me of was already stated to not be true in the very post you quoted.[/QUOTE] In what possible sense?

racists vs racists! GET THE POPCORN

Honestly fuck the KKK, and fuck the facepunchers that think what they're doing is any good. All the KKK is going to do if they do anything is make this situation ten times more chaotic.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;46490522]Because the KKK has a good track record of vigilantism that isn't racist.[/QUOTE] I never said that. I said that as of right now, this appears to be a threat of vigilantism against violent protesters, and nobody has any evidence that proves otherwise. I never once said that vigilantism is right, nor did I say I support any of it. I'm just stating what it is. You're using past actions to ASSUME what's going to happen in the future. I'm not. I'm saying that it could go either way, but as of right now, it's vigilantism. [QUOTE=Cone;46490549]you squares just gotta be OBJECTIVE! the KKK can be completely trusted to perform this series of vigilante killings without bias or irresponsibility! [I]I'M THE [B]FACTUAL[/B] ONE HERE![/I][/QUOTE] I never said that they could be trusted. I'm just not ASSUMING things. So unless you can prove AS A FACT that they will go there just to "kill a bunch of niggers", my argument still stands. So, can you show me something that says with 100% certainty what will happen in the future? I'm guessing no.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;46490734]I never said that they could be trusted. I'm just not ASSUMING things. So unless you can prove AS A FACT that they will go there just to "kill a bunch of niggers", my argument still stands. So, can you show me something that says with 100% certainty what will happen in the future? I'm guessing no.[/QUOTE] let's take a minute to consider that this is literally a thing that someone has actually just said about the Klu Klux Klan someone typed this, this thing which is about the KKK, and put it on the internet

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;46490734]I never said that. I said that as of right now, this appears to be a threat of vigilantism against violent protesters, and nobody has any evidence that proves otherwise. I never once said that vigilantism is right, nor did I say I support any of it. I'm just stating what it is. You're using past actions to ASSUME what's going to happen in the future. I'm not. I'm saying that it could go either way, but as of right now, it's vigilantism. I never said that they could be trusted. I'm just not ASSUMING things. So unless you can prove AS A FACT that they will go there just to "kill a bunch of niggers", my argument still stands. So, can you show me something that says with 100% certainty what will happen in the future? I'm guessing no.[/QUOTE] If an extensive history of overt, violent racism from a hate group that exists for the sole purpose of hurting and disenfranchising racial minorities doesn't stand as pretty conclusive evidence that they should play no part whatsoever in using lethal force to police a demonstration of the very people that they specifically targeted, who are rebelling against the exact ideals that this group upholds, then I'm truly stumped as to what does. It's like the start of a bad joke. [editline]14th November 2014[/editline] Like, I'm trying to be reasonable and tolerant of other peoples' viewpoints here, but you people are literally defending the [B]Ku Klux Klan,[/B] a group that has murdered 3500 black people over the last 85 years. Their classic hits include such titles as The Greensboro Massacre, and their very charter states, verbatim, "[I]We avow the distinction of the races of mankind, as decreed by the creator, and we shall ever be true to the maintenance of White Supremacy, and [U]strenuously[/U] oppose any compromise thereof.[/I]" And you're going to sit there and tell me, with a straight face, that this isn't about race?

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;46489912]they didn't threaten violence against black people. they threatened violence against people that are themselves threatening violence against police officers. the klan hasn't been racist on an official level for a long time. they wouldn't make a public announcement of racism like this, they're [B]trying[/B] to clean up their reputation.[/QUOTE] did you not read what bda said? they're burning crosses & leaving nooses at protest sites. are we seriously starting to defend the KKK? is this real? [editline]15th November 2014[/editline] this is insane, i know the white boys of FP like to go crazy about how whites are the real victims of discrimination and that racism against black people is over, but seriously now we're at the point where the KKK threatening to kill people is WINNER and they also aren't a racist organization

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;46490816]If an extensive history of overt, violent racism from a hate group that exists for the sole purpose of hurting and disenfranchising racial minorities doesn't stand as pretty conclusive evidence that they should play no part whatsoever in using lethal force to police a demonstration of the very people that they specifically targeted, who are rebelling against the exact ideals that this group upholds, then I'm truly stumped as to what does. It's like the start of a bad joke.[/QUOTE] I NEVER SAID THEY SHOULD BE THERE DOING ANY SORT OF VIGILANTISM. In fact, I've clearly stated that I DO NOT AGREE with it. I'm simply saying that [B]as of this moment[/B], their response is to the violence. And I'm not trying to defend them in any way. They have done a LOT of extremely horrible things. I just don't think it's right to condemn people for something they haven't done yet or a situation that's yet to occur, no matter who they are.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;46491024]I NEVER SAID THEY SHOULD BE THERE DOING ANY SORT OF VIGILANTISM. In fact, I've clearly stated that I DO NOT AGREE with it. I'm simply saying that [B]as of this moment[/B], their response is to the violence. And I'm not trying to defend them in any way. They have done a LOT of extremely horrible things. I just don't think it's right to condemn people for something they haven't done yet or a situation that's yet to occur, no matter who they are.[/QUOTE] why does anyone need to even bother doing a devil's advocate on the KKK

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;46490734]I never said that they could be trusted. I'm just not ASSUMING things. So unless you can prove AS A FACT that they will go there just to "kill a bunch of niggers", my argument still stands. So, can you show me something that says with 100% certainty what will happen in the future? I'm guessing no.[/QUOTE] So we should ignore all past evidence to this behavior and assume that from now on, the KKK is not interested in lynching as many minorities as possible under the guise of "vigilantism", because- why? Because we can't "tell the future"? This is the same group that used "there's a black person in the White House!" as a recruitment tactic, and it worked. What kind of people do you think join on that basis? Definitely not the kind who give a shit about just, unbiased vigilantism.

can i ask how the protesters themselves are being "racist"?

This is a shitty gambit by the KKK. If they were out to prove how awful and violent those blacks are and put "them in their place", this will only backfire. It would be like somebody smacking a hornet's nest to prove that they are better then hornets. They'll look like dumbass instigators and chuck even more fuel into the machine that drives the protestors. Also, what should we rename the site since stormfront is taken? Racepunch? Garry's Klu Klux Klubhouse?

[QUOTE=Bert the Turtle;46491103]can i ask how the protesters themselves are being "racist"?[/QUOTE] people just want to perpetuate the concept that white people are somehow being mistreated in this.

[QUOTE=Ownederd;46491129]people just want to perpetuate the concept that white people are somehow being mistreated in this.[/QUOTE] I think there's a notion that any time black people protest an organization that's primarily white (government) they're doing it for racial reasons and not any other reason.

This is a great thing and I salute the KKK for this. Not that I'm racist or support KKK. Now I'm going to fap to anime and browse /pol/. [editline]14th November 2014[/editline] I'm not joking.

[QUOTE=Ownederd;46491129]people just want to perpetuate the concept that white people are somehow being mistreated in this.[/QUOTE] Protesters are calling it a race war so idk. To me its the African american population vs law enforcement

[QUOTE=AJ10017;46489681]when i constantly hear African Americans walk around my school saying "if that police officer gets off im gonna bash some heads in" and stuff like "kirkwood better call off school if he gets off or people are gonna get hurt" i can understand someone rating this winner. They have been threatening my school for the [i]past 3 weeks[/i], along with saying shit like "The black man cant do nothin about the white mans system"[/QUOTE] gee, it's almost like teenagers are generally emotional, impulsive, and unnecessarily passionate about things! who would have thought, i wonder? i always thought it was 100% because of their race and culture, those belligerent teenage urban youths! (do you seriously not see the problem with generalizing people of a different race into a "them" category, considering an "us vs them" mentality is one of the root problems in race relations) [QUOTE=SexualShark;46489676]this entire thing was just a cop defending himself from an attacker and now it seems with the media just stirring the fucking pot to get attention this has now festered into a real problem. what is this world coming to?[/QUOTE] the news media has learned to sustain itself by generating controversy and then reporting on the controversy it generates. how to 24-hour news cycle, in a loose order: 1. find thing 2. report on thing in order to make more people know about thing, emphasizing controversial aspects of thing 3. report on controversy, thus causing controversy to grow 4. report on how controversy is growing (thanks to their reporting), cause controversy to grow larger 5. once controversy is large enough, dredge up crazies and call up important people/groups/figures to give their opinion 6. report on new opinions of crazy and/or important people 7. call for action on major news commentary show 8. report on 'growing calls for action' (as facilitated by news commentary show) 9. report on the responses to these 'growing calls to action' 10. using pox pops on the street, report on how 'regular people' find a lack of action 'disgusting' and 'unacceptable' 11. insert a sewage stream of meaningless updates regarding the actions of those who were called to action, magnifying every single exploitable detail in the process 12. read twitter posts and play youtube footage to 'find out how the internet is feeling about all this' 13. retrospective 2-hour special 14. report on new, tangentially-related things a few months on, making every possible effort to link new things to the thing you once reported on 15. repeat

[QUOTE=Code3Response;46491229]Protesters are calling it a race war so idk. To me its the American population vs law enforcement[/QUOTE] That's a bit more accurate.

[QUOTE=Ownederd;46491129]people just want to perpetuate the concept that white people are somehow being mistreated in this.[/QUOTE] well yeah i'm physically incapable of caring about the news unless it personally revolves around me or my underage anime babes in the most tenuous convoluted fashion possible

[QUOTE=Bert the Turtle;46491103]can i ask how the protesters themselves are being "racist"?[/QUOTE] The entire basis for the upcoming riot, if there is one, would be a fight against the corrupt white justice system that falsely let the officer go because he killed a black man. No one in this town would give one single crap if a white cop had killed a white guy.

[QUOTE=sgman91;46491333]The entire basis for the upcoming riot, if there is one, would be a fight against the corrupt white justice system that falsely let the officer go because he killed a black man. No one in this gown would give one single crap if a white cop had killed a white guy.[/QUOTE] it's almost like a white cop killing a black man is symbolic of the legal and socioeconomic subjugation of a race that was for centuries believed to be inferior by the majority of people in this nation. regardless of whether or not that symbolic connection is justified, that is what it looks like on the surface, and the superficial is what gets the attention of the public, regardless of what racial group of the public you're talking about.

facepunchers defending the KKK, i guess i've seen everything in this forum now. :suicide:

[QUOTE=sgman91;46491333]The entire basis for the upcoming riot, if there is one, would be a fight against the corrupt white justice system that falsely let the officer go because he killed a black man. No one in this gown would give one single crap if a white cop had killed a white guy.[/QUOTE] maybe because white people in america haven't been fucked over the justice system basically since forever & maybe also because white people in saint louis in particular aren't extremely under-represented within the police force

[QUOTE=joes33431;46491386]it's almost like a white cop killing a black man is symbolic of the legal and socioeconomic subjugation of a race that was for centuries believed to be inferior by the majority of people in this nation. regardless of whether or not that symbolic connection is justified, that is what it looks like on the surface, and the superficial is what gets the attention of the public, regardless of what racial group of the public you're talking about.[/QUOTE] It only looks like that on the surface if you embrace ignorance and assume guilt. Assuming that a guy is guilty because of his skin color is never justified. [editline]14th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Lachz0r;46491405]maybe because white people in america haven't been fucked over the justice system basically since forever & maybe also because white people in saint louis in particular aren't extremely under-represented within the police force[/QUOTE] Please show me intent in keeping black people out of the police force instead of assuming racist intentions because they're white. Based on everything I've read they have an extremely difficult time recruiting black people in that area.