Angela Merkel's CDU suffers German state election setbacks
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[QUOTE=Firewarrior;49930660]Use of weapons to secure borders as A LAST RESORT =/= shoot at refugees[/QUOTE]
People shouldn't be shot just trying to cross a border that's completely fucked up. These people aren't terrorists, and many of them are actual refugees.
30% of my federal state voted for the greens. Why. They are so irrelevant and disconnected to our current problems.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;49930392]They want to limit ALL refugees and dissolve the Euro-Zone and also block legalization of homosexual marriage.[/QUOTE]
Yes, they only want to accept those, who are actual refugees, those who are politcally persecuted. They want it to be regulated and not Merkel-style "HEY EVERYBODY, COME IN!". They also want them to get treated with humanity and they want them to be able to get jobs/work.
[QUOTE=DrDevil;49930537]That's what it says on paper, but in reality AfD is a Nazi party. Their leader advocates shooting at refugees and they generally hate foreigners.[/QUOTE]
Well done, you just called close to one third of the German population nazis.
[url]https://yougov.de/news/2016/02/09/schiessbefehl-und-verfassungstreue-der-afd-informa/[/url]
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;49931228]People shouldn't be shot just trying to cross a border that's completely fucked up. These people aren't terrorists, and many of them are actual refugees.[/QUOTE]
As a last resort. Like if they use violence against the border-controls and things like that. And again, using weapons to secure borders =/= shooting at people/refugees. It's like you ignore that on purpose.
[QUOTE=Firewarrior;49931328]As a last resort. Like if they use violence against the border-controls and things like that. And again, using weapons to secure borders =/= shooting at people/refugees. It's like you ignore that on purpose.[/QUOTE]
if it's a situation that warrants guns then the police will bring guns. if someone's running around with a gun or a bomb then they'll shoot them the same as any[I]one[/I] else any[I]where[/I] else. deploy riot cops to handle riots, deploy counter-terrorists to handle terrorists. this is how it already is and how it should be.
you're stressing so much how it's just a "last resort" to "control borders" but never explaining what you think should be changed, why, in what way it would be practical, or even how that's not already what happens. it really just looks like you're antsy that riot police don't want to act like GSG-9.
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what do you even really want the police to do differently?
[QUOTE=Firewarrior;49931328]As a last resort. Like if they use violence against the border-controls and things like that. And again, using weapons to secure borders =/= shooting at people/refugees. It's like you ignore that on purpose.[/QUOTE]
What kind of violence do you think these refugees will use against border guards? Refugees generally try to avoid border guards, why would they be attacking them?
Like, if the refugees suddenly amass an army with actual weapons, of course border guards should be able to protect themselves, but it's not even remotely on the table right now.
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